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The Classroom April 2013
by Jerry Hayes
Q Peri What?
I just sat through a presentation at a bee meeting about something called the “peritrophic” membrane and how in honey bees it is a problem if it doesn’t work right. Jerry, what is it in terms I can understand?
Marlin in Nevada
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I am not an expert on the peritrophic membrane, but this is one of those really interesting words with a longish explanation that has a major honey bee connection. Hang on ... here we go.
I like to know what word meanings actually are so I looked up peritrophic. Peri means around and trophic means linked to food. Peritrophic membranes are not really membranes because membranes are made up usually of living cells. This would be better called a Peritrophic matrix as it is made up of chitin, the hard stuff the honey bee’s exoskeleton is made of, and protein fibers. The official definition of peritrophic matrix is: “a semi permeable, non cellular, very thin “structure” that surrounds a food bolus as it enters the honey bee mid gut.” Visualize a fine mesh material perhaps something like the fine mesh cloth or strainer bags used to filter your honey and filter out and contain the dead bees, legs, wings and hunks of wax.
Let’s call this peritrophic matrix the PM as I don’t want to write peritrophic matrix again:) The PM is made in the lining of the gut wall (intestine) of the honey bee. When food enters the gut, the PM sloughs off or delaminates and surrounds the food. The only good analogy I can think of is making sausage. Without the very thin, flexible, tough and permeable casing, the sausage wouldn’t be a sausage, hot dog or brat because it would not be contained in the casing that holds it together. The PM is a sausage casing or a mesh bag, depending how you want to visualize it.
There are several very cool and important reasons that honey bees and some other insect have a PM:
1) Digestion is improved. The PM mesh bag allows digestive enzymes to go in and out, digest the food and allow the now free and available proteins, vitamins, minerals and fats to leave the PM and be absorbed by the gut lining and bring nutrition to the honey bee. The indigestible stuff is left behind in the PM to be excreted with the PM bag/casing.
2) The PM mesh bag has small pores. Honey bees are exposed to many different kinds of naturally occurring plant toxins (poisons) as they feed on nectar and beebread. The miticides we use to control varroa are also toxins and honey bees, as they forage, are exposed to lots of other toxins they find in the environment. Some of these toxins are too large to pass from the inside of the PM through the small pores and leave. They are held behind and are excreted with the PM.
3) The same process can work with large pathogens as well. The food honey bees consume is filled with bacteria, fungi, yeast and viruses. The small pores in the PM can also filter out these if they are too large to fit through the small pores and will be excreted with all the other junk in 1 & 2.
So knowing this, why would a honey bee ever get sick if digestion and nutrition is improved and some toxins and pathogens are filtered out? Life is a competition. Disease organisms want to survive too and over the millennia have found ways to get over, through and past the PM. Viruses have developed enzymes to dissolve the PM and open a hole big enough to let them through to attack the living epithelial cells of the gut wall. Some miticides and other chemicals can also dissolve the PM enough to leak out and expose the honey bee to these toxins. But, perhaps the most dramatic is Nosema. It not only dissolves, but shreds the PM, leaving it in tatters--not only releasing Nosema spores to infect the gut wall cells, but all of the other toxins, pathogens and indigestible debris that the once intact PM held securely. When this continues it causes tremendous honey bee healthy challenges and shortened lives. Nosema is a big problem because of its ability to destroy the PM
Dr. Kate Aronstein, USDA/ARS and Dr. Tom Webster, Kentucky State University, are the leading researchers on the PM and how it affects honey bee health. As they learn more from their valuable research, we as beekeepers will as well. Having more knowledge on this subject is important.
Q Location - Don't Blame Philly!
I’ve asked you a couple of questions before, and you were nice enough to answer them, so here goes. Background: I started beekeeping in 2006 in central NY State. (near Ithaca and Cortland) And things went very well for me. Some of the books I read on beekeeping had me thinking that beekeeping in NY would be not very productive. My 2 colonies the first year yielded 6 medium supers of honey (I took 3 at the end of August and 3 more at the end of September) and had a hive body full of stores to winter over on. The next spring I split both hives and they did very well again.
So, 3 years ago I moved to just outside of Philadelphia, (I sold 10 colonies to another beekeeper, kept 2) and last year I brought one colony down to the countryside an hour’s drive from my place. At the beginning of August they were piling on honey and I gave them 2 supers. By the middle of August the supers were almost full and getting capped. By the middle of September the supers were all empty. By the end of September the bees had starved to death.
This spring I restarted with 2 nucs at two different locations. One nuc was poisoned a month after setting, the other nuc was doing so well after a month (10 frames of larvae and a hive body and a super full of stores) that I split it. I moved the surviving bees from the poisoned colony out of that location and into new equipment. By the end of August they looked like they were recovering and had supplies. My other two colonies were going gangbusters, 3 supers and a hive body full. I gave them 2 more supers (under the mostly full supers) and left them alone for 2 months. (It is not exactly easy to get over there.) In December they were all starving. I combined the 2 smallest ones and fed 3 gallons syrup to each. Now they are dead.
If I had been able to keep a closer eye on them, I may have been able to feed them enough to keep them going. But if I have to feed them over $100 worth of sugar and pollen patties every winter, it’s not worth it!
The mid Atlantic is supposed to be a great area to keep bees. So, I can’t help thinking that I am doing something fundamentally wrong. I keep the bees in two hive body boxes, and put supers on top when it looks like honey is coming in. I feed when they need it and put in small hive beetle traps when I see them. I have been looking for varroa mites, but I am not seeing them. No chalk brood (I had that in one colony up in NY). No sign of Nosema or dysentery, no sign of the foulbroods. They just seem to stop gathering and gobble everything up. I am “sharing” an apiary with the land owner and he lost 18 out of 20 so far this year. (He lost 13 out of 25 last year.)
If you can spot where I am screwing up, please tell me. Up in NY it was almost too easy. Or, if you know that Southeast PA is a lousy spot for beekeeping, I’d like to know that too.
Karl Newman
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Let me first start by saying that remote diagnosis is hard, but I really doubt that it is classic starvation. Starvation is characterized by lots of dead bees in a colony with many dead found with their heads first in cells as their final resting place. Many times there is stored honey left, but it was too cold for the bees to move the cluster or break the cluster to get to it. This certainly might have happened to you multiple times, but the odds are against it.
You said you don’t have Varroa and thus have never treated for it. I think that is the primary flaw in your plan. Every honey bee colony in North America has or will have Varroa mites. I was at a recent Bee Informed Partnership meeting and from their survey and sample collection of honey bees from colonies that were analyzed for Varroa, Tracheal mites, viruses, Nosema, etc., 93% of samples had Varroa. Varroa left untreated results in loss of colonies guaranteed from Varroa parasitizing bees directly, the viruses that “bloom” because of immune suppression of honey bees parasitized. Nosema goes crazy and the colonies die. Colonies can die or be so weakened that they can then be easily robbed out by surviving colonies, whether yours or others, giving the impression of starvation.
I don’t think the problem is “Philly”. I think it is honey bee health problems from untreated Varroa in August and all the baggage that comes with this. What do you think?
Q Fumagilin
What is your answer for today regarding fumagilin? A lot has changed and much research has taken place since this product was introduced to beekeepers and we need to know “what’s the bottom line” regarding its use in 2013.
Thanks for your never ending help to all of us “old ‘n new timers”!
D. Mumm
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The problem with Fumagillin or anything else that we use on Nosema apis or ceranae is that these both are seasonally cyclical and “infections” can be enhanced or impacted by outside inputs and disappear on their own. One can sample consistently and find millions of spores in the sample, but have little negative colony health effects seen and sample 3 weeks later and Nosema can’t be found. Or you can sample the wrong bees and they will have no Nosema spores at all, but another cadre of bees will. Nosema of both varieties comes and goes. Active Nosema infections do not appear in all ages or castes of honey bees in a colony all the time. It seems to be found in some older foragers, but not all, more easily which kind of makes sense as they are old, on the downhill for general immunity and are and have been exposed to lots of chemicals—both pesticides used to control varroa and lots of stuff in the environment, which enhance Nosema infection.
The real questions are when do you sample to find general sources of Nosema, what is the Varroa impact as they cause immune suppression, what chemicals have the bees been exposed to that affect the Nosema infection and what time of the year is it or can you project what may happen with Nosema 3-6 months from now? Lots of confusing variables to not only consider, but “guess” about.
Some data on Fumagillin show it wipes out Nosema infections and other data show it does nothing at all. It depends on whose data you look at. And it is the same with all the other Nosema products on the market.
Nosema can have dramatic health effects on queens, so if I were a queen breeder, I would use it 24/7/365 to produce a quality product. If I weren’t, it is a flip of the coin of whether to go to the time and expense of using it. Sorry for the squishy answer, but those are the facts and my confusion as well.
Q Tricky Genetics
I was catching up with my reading and always read The Classroom first. I came across an explanation that you gave a reader about the bees being half-sisters, etc. You went one to solve a mystery that has been bothering me. I could never find a good explanation as to why so many queen cells appear during early spring swarm season in the same hive.
I would have guessed that making a new queen would be more of a consultative “sisterhood” process between the bees. The fact that they are passing on different genetics, 50% more, and fighting for their genetics to emerge is an amazing realization. As much as they work together, I think we are witnessing a little competition between the sisterhood.
I always imagined the spermatheca to be a mix of the mixes.....a mixture of the sperm from different drones. I didn’t think it would be like a layer cake. LIFO, as in last in first out, or FIFO, first in first out.
Your answer suggests the bees know that there are different genetics. I wonder how that could be? Thanks for your great column.
Debbie Rabinovich
St. Louis, MO
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Honey bees are certainly amazing and if one studied sea cucumbers or the parasitic mites that only live on us in our eye lashes or some plant that only grows on the east side of Mount Kilimanjaro we would be equally amazed at the structure of mechanisms of survival. Survival to pass those particular genetics on ahead of or in parallel with some other species is a fascinating topic that I don’t fully understand.
To get to your question of how the they “know” which developing larvae are most closely related to themselves is the secret to life as we know it. Scientists surmise that there are subtle karimone and pheromone differences that developing larvae produce that their sisters can identify above others.
To get philosophical, isn’t it neat that we have found a connection to the world that most ignore that in turn allows us the opportunity to be aware and ask these kinds of questions? Pretty cool.
Q Fun Times
After reading the December issue of ABJ and the Linda Lathrop letter in the Classroom section, I thought I would write you about a similar experience I’ve had with bees clustering on me. First a quick background: I run about 500 colonies here in Southern California. Anyway, a few years back I was pulling the last of the honey and breaking down hives in one of my yards. I believe it was in September or October. I was by myself and had caused quite a robbing epidemic. I have the bad habit of leaving my truck radio on while I work and that particular day I spent too much time in the bee yard as when it was time to go, the truck said no and wouldn’t start. I called my rescuers and decided to walk down the road away from the thousands of stinging bees. I walked a good quarter mile down the road and sat beneath a cottonwood tree to wait. After a few minutes, bees began to swarm around me and started to cluster on my arm and torso. After a few more minutes, my arm and torso were practically covered in bees. It amused me so I let it go on. My ride pulled up in astonishment. I shook the bees off, jumped the truck, and went about my business. I’ve always figured that the bees were attracted by the pheromones omitted by the attacking guard bees back in the yard. I must have stunk to high heaven of the juice. Just thought I’d share my experience. We’ve actually met once, in the elevator at the California Beekeepers Association Convention at Morongo. You asked me what I had learned so far. I think I’m still trying to figure that out :)
John Bradley
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Thanks for the personal update, John. Bees are amazing. Anyone who says they know everything about honey bees is a liar! I am still trying to figure it out too. Fun though:)
The Classroom March 2013
by Jerry Hayes
Q Other Honey Bee Health Challenges
I have a question regarding other possible varied non-pesticide factors I have not heard mention of – perhaps because they have already been discounted as not impacting the general overall health of honey bees.
(1) Pollen & nectar sources. With changing landscapes come big changes in native food sources – some could be potentially toxic and different nutritional content. In Missouri, the conversion of native or farmland to suburban areas and introduction of Japanese vine and bush honeysuckle have essentially taken over and wiped out most natural flowering vegetation in greenways in the past dozen years. Bradford pear is another one that has completely replaced what used to be ubiquitous crabapples. And, of course... the “invented” battle against dandelion and clover that must force bees to seek alternatives.
(2) Water sources. Particularly in relation to transporting bees across country, such as seeking water at gas station puddles, suburban settling ponds, and rural ponds – not sure what might have changed there in the past 15 years, except drugs passing through cattle urine.
Austin
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Thanks Austin for the great questions. Lots of folks like to focus just on pesticides and it is more than that. Honey bee health, either positive or negative, is a multi-factorial question. The list of the main challenges of honey bee health are: 1) Varroa; 2) the Varroa/Virus complex; 3) Nutrition; 4) Pesticides. One of the most important identified honey bee health influencers is at #3, nutrition. Not all pollen is created equally and so for complete nutrition honey bees evolved to collect and then transform a variety of pollens from a variety of plant species gambling for a full complement of the 10 essential amino acids, lipids, carbs, vitamins and minerals into a fermented pollen product called “bee bread”.
This is no different than humans requiring a diversity of foods. That is why Michelle Obama has pushed nutrition and the “Food Plate” advertising what we need to eat and how much. With a changing environment altered by urban and suburban dwellers and specifically for commercial beekeepers, who are more in demand now for fee-based pollination of pollinator dependent mono crops, the pollen diversity in many cases is not available. Then, of course, the nutrition inherent in mixed pollen sources is missing. To fill this gap there are a variety of substitute “pollen” products offered on the market or the beekeeper can make his/her own. The problem with these is that first and most importantly, none of these is nutritionally complete. They can help in some regard, but at some point without a mixed pollen source available, the bees have to eat more of it to get the required amino acids and/or draw upon internal tissue resources and cannibalize themselves in some cases. Brood rearing stops and the colony will actually eat developing larvae and pupae. Many of these substitute diets are placed in a colony, but rather than being consumed, they are dragged out as trash. This makes sense because bulk food is not found in a bee hive in a ¼ pound patty and is not recognized as food, but as debris to be removed.
Why a nutritionally complete substitute diet has never been developed is a question beekeepers often ask. Honey bees can forage efficiently in about a 2 mile radius of their colonies. And for some exceptional resources they will travel much farther. When food forager “Scouts” leave the colony they find/discover pollen, nectar and water sources. They will take samples and bring those samples back to the colony and share them with their sisters. There can be dozens of these independent scouts doing this. These samples have an odor, and taste signature. They are sales people at this point of sharing these samples within the colony, trying to advertise that they have found something that smells, and tastes like the sample. They also communicate that “if you fly out in X direction for X period of time, you will find the source because it smells and tastes like the sample I just gave you.”
Honey bees cannot direct their sisters to go out and find a water source if it does not have an odor or taste. There have been trials done using purified distilled water and it is meaningless to honey bees because they can’t taste or smell it. It is kind of like you when you have a cold and your smell and taste shuts down and food is not appealing. Water that has a smell and taste, whether it is a puddle in a cattle feed lot, leaky drip chemigation or your swimming pool, is lots easier to collect and share as an identifiable water source. Make sense? But data shows that what we would call icky water does not contain or harbor honey bee pathogens to any great extent.
Q Suicidal Bees
Thank you so much for doing the “Classroom” in the American Bee Journal. My daughter and I have been keeping bees for two years now, and it has helped us answer a lot of questions that beginners have. We live in southwest Michigan. We had 5 weeks of very warm temperatures in December and January. Then, that was followed by three weeks of severe Arctic cold. The weather just broke yesterday and we have had highs in the 40’s the last two days. We have about 18 inches of snow on the ground right now, but it is beginning to melt.
This is my question: We have 6 hives we are wintering over. All of them were strong this fall and we left plenty of honey on them. They were very active during the warm spell in December and January. About a week and a half into the deep freeze, we had a sunny day. The temperature was only 14 degrees, but for some reason the bees thought it was warm enough to fly. One hive had hundreds of dead bees lying outside in a strip, where they had tried to get back, froze and dropped where they were. The last two days they have also tried to fly. Some make it back in, but lots of them are dying in a heap by the entrance. Is there something we can do, or do you think they have enough bees to spare right now? Only one hive is this active, but it has the most sun exposure. The others have some activity, but there are only a few dead bees, not heaps of them! We don’t know if they started rearing brood during the warm spell, or not. We haven’t looked inside because it has been so cold.
Thanks for your help,
Caroline Abbott
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Caroline, thank you for the Classroom compliment. All I do is answer the excellent questions from beekeepers like you. Going down memory lane, I lived in Wayland, MI (South of Grand Rapids) years ago and I still have memories of the long winters and beautiful summers with honey bees. Big strong colonies get faked out sometimes by the bright sunshine reflected off snow. Honey Bees see UV and when sunlight is reflected off the snow the UV signature is very distinct. It confuses them in relation to the sun and instead of flying up they actually fly down and crash into the snow where they chill even more and die.
Honey bee colonies that have been confined and may have Nosema or tracheal mites will also fly out whenever it looks okay to get out of the colony. Ultimately the only way you will know if the colonies have made it through winter is when you will be able to do a lid opening check. Dead honey bees against the white snow always look worse than many times it is. Let’s cross our fingers and be optimistic that your mite treatments in late summer were effective and the honey supply was sufficient and of a good quality.
Cold doesn’t necessarily kill honey bees. It is everything else that is added such as pests, predators and disease that actually does them in. Let me know how they look when you can say they have actually turned the corner in March or April.
Q The Old Switcheroo
I’m a first-year beekeeper with three new hives started from package bees at the beginning of April 2012. Each hive now has two deep hive bodies for brood chambers and one super, although the honey flow ended before any of the hives were able to draw out much comb in the super. Right now the supers are mostly empty, but I’m keeping them on just in case the bees find the means to draw the foundation out. The problem is, as a 5’5” woman, I’m already finding that the weight of full deeps is more than I can easily handle when inspecting the hives, even though I’m just using nine frames per box. I understand that many beekeepers use only medium supers for brood, honey storage, and overwintering, and that’s the approach I’d like to take in future. I wish I had started out only using medium supers for brood chambers, but here I am with all my brood in deep frames.
My question is: When is the best time, and what is the best method to switch a hive from deeps to medium-sized brood boxes? I don’t have much in the way of drawn comb on super frames, so I’m afraid it will be essentially like starting from scratch. What do you recommend?
Thanks!
Rebecca Ambers
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Hello Rebecca, deeps are much better for brood chambers, especially in winter temperatures. Honey bee colonies are much better able to form clusters that are more successful in maintaining stable temperatures on a deep brood frame rather than a series of smaller frames with gaps that exist between these multiple supers. This is not to say that colonies cannot overwinter successfully in a series of mediums, but it is more disruptive to the continuity of a cluster. Mediums work much better further south of you in the lower southeast where winters are more consistently moderate.
What do you think about leaving the bottom deep on? You should not have to pick it up to inspect as only frames will be removed and moved around. And then, use a couple mediums on top of that for the next segment of the “brood chamber”. The other deeps you have can be used for the bottom brood chamber on subsequent colonies or traded to other beekeepers in your local beekeeper association for mediums. You and your colony have made great progress and you may not want to totally abandon using deeps.
The main problem with my suggestion is “spring reversal”. If you reverse your hive bodies in the spring, that will defeat my suggested strategy to reduce your heavy lifting. Still another possibility would be switching to eight-frame equipment. That would eliminate some of the weight of brood chambers, but would also require scrapping or selling all of your existing 10-frame equipment.
Spring would be the best time to make the change you note. Your goal right now is to get your colonies through the winter. Nothing is ergonomic on a bee hive, which makes it worse. Let me know what you think.
Q Sugar, corn syrup and Fondant?
Hello, just a quick question for you. I just mixed 25 lbs. of sugar with 8 lbs. of corn syrup and it makes a nice patty, so why do people go to the bother of getting fondant? Is fondant better for the bees?
Thank you,
Bradlyn Wadel
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Bradlyn, let me get on my “soap box” for a minute. There are lots of legitimate reasons to feed honey bees supplemental carbohydrates like sugar syrup, HFCS, fondant blends, sugar blends, etc. Some of these reasons include avoiding colony starvation, early spring stimulation, queen rearing, and making splits and nucs. However, there are also lots of reasons not to feed. Honey bees have evolved over millions of years to be able to gather, add enzymes, evaporate excess moisture and prepare for long-term storage a diverse and ever changing supply of the mixed sugar liquid (nectar) produced by flowering plants.
They can eat and use other sugars, as supplied by the beekeeper, at some metabolic cost to be able to digest and convert it to a usable source of energy for them. It is kind of like you and I--we can digest and gain lots of energy and nutrition from sweet fruits and we can also get them from a Hershey bar? However, there is some cost to us in digestion and vitamin usage to convert it to a usable form before, during and after that first bite.
As I step off my “soap box”, I hope you have considered why you are feeding your colony. Is it a last-gasp survival situation because you as the honey bee manager did not assess stored honey, or do you have needy bees that have consumed everything they may have stored and are depending on you to keep them alive because their genetics are faulty? Is it any of the other reasons listed above?
You may be feeding them because everyone says you need to or it makes you feel better when you do, even though they may not need it. If so, then you could be just wasting your time and resources and giving the colony food that is incomplete. You are the manager, so if the colony needs this supplement, it really doesn’t make a whole lot of difference in what form it takes as long as it is available to the colony, regardless of temperature, and does not drip, run or melt all over them.
Q Resveratrol
Has anyone ever heard of this stuff from red wine? It is called resveratrol and is supposed to be good for people? Will it help honey bees, too?
Darren
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Resveratrol has been in the news for several years in relation to its possible human health benefits. Not only red wine, Darren, but lots of other plants as well have this substance. It is a plant-produced “phenol” for protection from damage caused by pathogens and fungi that attack plants. The most data has come from Japanese researchers who found resveratrol mostly in the roots of Japanese Knotweed. The claims are that it is anti-aging and anti-cancer and lowers blood sugar in humans. However, so far nothing amazing has been found in trials that helped nematodes, fish, mice or humans.
In an article from the July 2012 Journal of Aging it was reported that resveratrol, when fed to honey bees, “reduced food intake”. The article noted a couple of times that it inhibited food consumption in honey bees for both carbs and protein. That sure doesn’t sound like a great selling point for a short-lived summer honey bee and even worse for a long-lived winter honey bee directly. To think that the younger “nurse bees” need lots of protein and energy in the form of pollen and sugar in order to produce high protein, calorie dense larval food and that resveratrol slows food consumption, then it doesn’t make a lot of practical sense to provide this supplement to honey bees. So, at this moment in time, I think what is known is not enough for a beekeeper to rush out and use resveratrol as a honey bee food supplement.
An opinion is like a nose everybody has one, and that is mine.
Q Movin' on...Maybe
Jerry, I’m still keeping bees here in the north, but am looking to move to the south. I was wondering what input you might have on looking for a good place for bees? I used to go to Zephyrhills, Florida, but I’m looking for a place more rural. I was thinking about northern Florida, maybe up around an area that has a lot of TUPELO trees. I’m also concerned about the Africanized honey bees (AHB), and was wondering how the AHB were doing in population in the Florida area?
No rush, still need to sell here, but if you have some input as to a good area, please let me know. I also need to work at something, plus the bees, so thank you for your time.
George J. Parker, Jr.
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Hello George, as you probably know, keeping honey bees in Florida is or can be a bit more challenging than one would think. Many times there are lots of things blooming, but never really enough to keep a lot of colonies in full foraging mode. There are some “flushes” of flowering plants in spring in North Florida and it can be great, but then it is over with. Not much in between and lots of feeding may be necessary, especially in summer.
Tupelo makes a great varietal honey and fetches a hefty price in the marketplace, but with the catch that there is a limited supply and scarcity. Tupelo areas in North Florida are already taken by other large beekeepers. They can be a bit territorial to put it mildly. This is a competitive situation and the beekeepers in the “Tupelo Fraternity” know each other and have hand-shake agreements. If someone arbitrarily moves into “claimed” areas, they may be asked to leave. Be careful. I would contact the North Florida Apiary Inspector first to run this idea by him.
Q After Swarms
Jerry, the Chicago Way is “Vote early, vote often”. With the record warm March in 2012 we had here in northern Illinois, my backyard colonies decided to “swarm early, swarm often”-- swarms and after-swarms. I hived one after-swarm and have a couple of questions:
1. Am I correct that the virgin queen in the after-swarm must now go on her mating flight, delaying brood rearing past what would be expected from a prime swarm? How long might it be until she lays her first eggs?
2. I have read that there are sometimes more than one virgin in an after-swarm. What happens in this situation? Mate first and fight later? Fight first and mate later? Some other process?
Thank you for your help. Your answer will provide some insights for this simple beekeeper and maybe to some others as well.
Allen Cosnow
Glencoe, IL
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Weird weather has impacted swarming for sure and caused an early expansion of varroa mites, which also could have an impact later.
1) Yes, many after swarms do have a virgin or virgins in them. The normal pattern of the mated queen leaving with a swarm has been short-circuited, so the future of this potentially new colony is not really known. Hoped for but not known. She can be laying 7-14 days after a number of mating flights are completed. Even in a perfect world, in which you caught the swarm and placed it in a hive with drawn comb, she still has to go out mate and return successfully from the cold cruel world of birds, thunderstorms, car windshields, chemicals and sterile drones, etc. It isn’t as easy as it looks.
2) Virgin queens do not really have a fertile honey bee queen odor (pheromone signature), so do not recognize each other easily as potential rivals like they would in a functioning colony with queen cells. When they are mated, that is when they become fertile queens that have a genetic desire to lead a colony. This is when the competitive nature shows itself and they will fight for supremacy. And, I always thought it interesting that, depending which queen was able to deliver the lucky sting first, that it doesn’t mean the biggest, nicest, most fully mated queen will win one of these duels. It could be the scrawny, half mated queen with 5 legs that gets the lucky kill shot. That is why controlling this whole queen introduction process as much as possible to get the “best” queen is a good thing.
Q AFB-Phobia
Which treatment is best to prevent American foulbrood (AFB)? Is Tylan Best? Mixing Tylan properly, because it is so concentrated, is beyond the scope of most of us. As a result of this, there are indications that there is Tylan-AFB resistance beginning.
Doug
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First, I need to ask my perennial question, “Do you have AFB to treat?” Antibiotics do not eliminate AFB. AFB is caused by spore-forming bacteria. Spores are like seeds, long lived, hard, and can survive as a stored embryo until they germinate. When AFB is exposed to antibiotics, some of the vegetative state is killed and some form spores in response to this threat. If you don’t have AFB, what are you treating? Are you personally taking antibiotics now because you are afraid of getting Strep throat next week? Prophylactic AFB treatment is of dubious worth.
If you are treating an active case of AFB (and your state apiary laws allow this), then Terramycin still works in many areas. However, if you see that your bees are not responding to the Terramycin treatment, then you will need to switch to Tylan. Yes, mixing Tylan is tough, but can be done with a little patience. Call your supplier for help if necessary.
RESPONSE FROM DOUG
Thank you for your savvy advice and very timely admonition. Ever since I got wiped out three years ago (cause never determined?), I have been paranoid about AFB. I had to destroy nearly my entire apiary (just 6 colonies at the time). Most likely, it was a combination of sloppy beekeeping on my part and my bees robbing a very SICK beeyard one mile away!
Q Be Wary
Hi Mr. Hayes, I’m looking at getting hives called Warre’ Hives.
Thanks,
Mark
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Mark, if you are asking my opinion, I would ask, “Are you sure you want all of the management problems that come with Warre’ hives?” They are top-bar hives that allow the bees to build free-form comb in the square boxes. This, in turn, means the bees attach the comb to sides, bottoms, tops, etc., so that the beekeeper has to cut the comb to manipulate the comb around for management inspections, harvesting, treatments, etc. Are you sure you want to go back in history to a more primitive form of beekeeping? Movable frame hives, invented over 150 years ago, were the best thing that ever happened to beekeeping and allowed it to be enjoyed by many who could not previously. It is your call, but I think you will find Warre’ hives to be a pain.
The Classroom February 2013
by Jerry Hayes
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Q Friendly Bees Again
In the December ABJ Jim and Linda Lathrop wrote in to ask why they have many of their honey bees being attracted to them while outside. They were described as not aggressive, but friendly “I want to be with you” attracted. I asked Classroom readers for some help on this one and got lots of replies. Here are a few of them.
Hello Jerry,
I have a possible explanation for the Lathrop's "friendly bees". Sounds like these bees are in a dearth if they are fed 4# of sugar a day as syrup with warmer temperatures and no honey crop. Initially, they were fed syrup with Honey B Healthy, which was later discontinued per Linda's follow-up letter. It is likely that the feeding stimulant scent is the culprit for their behavior. I had a similar experience a couple years ago when I attempted to attract bees to a barrel of syrup. The bees had been foraging at a neighboring vineyardist's grape press where a worker was stung. To rapidly redirect the foragers, I tried barrel feeding sucrose syrup with added Honey B Healthy about 1/8th mile from the 24 colony apiary. I received a call later that day by a panicked property owner where my bees were located. She reported that my bees were swarming over her clothes line. On arriving to appraise the situation, I found bees throughout her open garage where laundry had been washed and also clustered densely on the clothes which were drying behind the house. I moved the apiary that night, resolving the problem.
It is likely that the Lathrop's are using a scented detergent, which is attracting bees to them while not to others on the premises. I am uncertain of the source of the mimic scent at the porch, but possibilities include a dryer vent discharging nearby, or spilled Honey B Healthy or laundry detergent. As the hives contain essential oil scented sugar syrup, the nectar-searching behavior for this scent may persist despite discontinuing further feedings. I suspect that the perfect combination of dearth, feeding stimulant, and scented fabric (or scented people) has occurred this year leading to this new bee behavior.
Andrew Watson
Mr. Jerry Hayes
Just a comment: Jerry in answer to Linda and Jim's friendly Bees, Rose and I have experienced something similar to friendly bees, but only a handful while sitting on the deck porch. While either sipping tea or maybe ice cream, but relaxing in the evening, bees will come around flying gently landing on our arms or hands. I have had them crawl between my fingers and palms and sucking on my hands to the point that you could feel the pressure of their tongue pulling on your skin. It was a strange experience and I wondered myself what is going on? My thought is that when we eat or drink something in the evening, that maybe the scent is still there from food or drinks in that area. So, the bees are coming around investigating, through curiosity of a strange scent in that area. So the bees pay us a visit. I don't know the answer either? But, I wanted to let Linda and Jim know that they are not alone with this strange experience. I got to where I was talking to them. Rose offered them some tea with sugar, but they were not interested. I could only come up with that they are picking up a scent of food and drinks and come to visit with curiosity. What do you think, Jerry?
Dear Jerry,
I just finished reading "Friendly Bees?" in the Classroom section of the December 2012 issue of the American Bee Journal. The puzzle as to why Linda and Jim Lathrop's bees were so attracted to them intrigued me. It is as if their bees were responding to a queen's pheromone. The queen's pheromone, or queen's substance 90xo2Decenoic Acid (9 ODA), 9Hydroxy2Decenoic Acid (9 HDA), and 10Hydroxy2Decenoic Acid (10 HDA) was possibly on Linda, and Jim?
I did some research on line, and discovered the following: According to the "Alba Herbal" web site, 10Hydroxy2Decenoic Acid (10 HDA) is in royal jelly. It is added to cosmetics, skin care products, and health food as an active ingredient for its antibacterial effect, skin whitening, and antioxidative activity effect.
Could the Lathrops have been using a product that contains 10HDA?
Ross Englehart
Dayton, Maryland
Hi Jerry,
Your column makes me always open the journal right after it arrives. It is a first thing I go to. I'm in my 2nd year of keeping 3 hives, not easy, lost 1 hive 1st year and just lost another hive, probably too much varroa, but 2 others going strong and I'm spinning honey this weekend. Not much, but it's a nice bonus.
Anyway, I don't want to claim that I know I have an answer to Linda's and Jim's bee's socializing behavior, but as a physician specializing in using vitamins and minerals to treat many conditions, I have an idea. I would start by asking if: A) They take any supplements, specifically B complex vitamins or any herbals; B) do they eat any plant based foods/herbs in large amounts regularly; C) I think they said that they tried to see if the soaps they are using were responsible, but of course there could be a number of other "aromas" they may be using without realizing it.
Where am I going with A and B? Here are few examples that will help to illustrate: 1) high dose Thiamine (vitamin B1 at least 100mg) taken orally by some people will induce skin to eliminate some of the excess of this vitamin. There are claims that this may repel mosquitoes (although there is no study to support this). 2) Some herbs consumed by humans produce specific aromatic oils that are excreted through skin.
I would need to do research if Linda and Jim indeed consume some natural product or a dietary herb to figure out the specific chemical reaction that is causing this interesting situation. I would be actually rather interested in contacting them directly to figure this out for myself. This may actually be a positive incidental finding that can be utilized for an advantage on less friendly colonies if this "aroma" will make bees "like" beekeepers.
Whatever the reason is, I'm completely in agreement with your closing statement that it must be some pheromone or semiochemical odor that is responsible for this.
Sincerely and thank you again for your wonderful column, a true inspiration for me as a starting beekeeper.
Misha Mikhail Kogan, MD
Q Porcelain Berry Vine
I have a Porcelain Berry Vine, Elegans variety. The honey bees seem to really love it. Once it starts blooming, even though the blooms are very small, the honey bees are all over it. I can't find anything on the internet regarding honey bees and this plant. Do you happen to know if this is a good plant for nectar or pollen?
Thank you for your time and for the great articles "The Classroom".
Wes Petznick
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First, thank you for the compliment on the Classroom. It is fun when all of us are learning together.
Honey bees are attracted to flowers for several different reasons. The typical way is honey bee scouts have found a plant that has needed pollen or nectar that has a high concentration of sugar. There is another reason in that some flowering plants attract honey bees or other pollinators and produce a highly attractive odor that promises this, but doesn’t provide it. It is interesting how plants and animals use, attract, coerce and downright simply trick pollinators to visit the flower for pollination many times. Flowers produce nectar as an offering or bribe to get an insect, bird, mammal/marsupial, etc. to visit them and take the male element “pollen” as a side effort from one flower part to another flower part, so pollination can take place and hopefully fertilization of a seed.
Producing nectar is a resource-intensive process, but a valuable one if fertilization takes place and you can now spread your plant genetics around and survive. Another way for a plant to attract native pollinators is to produce a scent, odor, perfume if you will that is highly suggestive to honey bee foragers or scouts of other plants that produce high quality nectar. The deal is that these plants only produce the odor; they do not produce the high quality nectar. They attract lots of “bees”. The bees seemingly go crazy over the flowers and the plant gets free pollination and the bees get nothing. The old bait and switch--only plants invented it!
I am not aware of any information of the type, quality, or sugar concentration of Porcelain Berry Vine nectar or if it has any at all or what nutritional value the pollen may have. I do know honey bees are attracted, but for what reason is the question.
Q Honey and Allergies Revisited
Well, here we go again on subject of honey and allergies. It's a little hard to determine whether this is fuzzy logic. Could you give me your opinion? When customers approach me about allergies, I have always told them that they being most likely allergic to windblown pollen, it is unlikely those grains will end up in honey since grains have such a strong cuticle that the bees cannot break it, so it goes right into their digestive tract. I also say that the overwhelming numbers of customers are using local pollen for allergies, but I point out that all the medical evidence "suggests" that1 tsp. or tsbp. honey per day has significant health benefits, so it may be that eating honey, any honey, may improve the immune system so they are better able to ward off allergic response...
Do you have a better rationale for eating the local honey (that's what they want, so who am I to discourage them)?
Nancy Gentry
A
Well, this is the way in understand it. You are right in that 99.9% of allergies are from plants that have never wanted a relationship with insects or the energy cost to produce nectar to lure in insects. They have ‘chosen’ to put all their energy in to making gazillions of pollen grains in the hopes that the wind will deliver the male pollen to the right place at the right time on another flower of the same species. What the actual cost benefit analysis of producing nectar is to lure in pollinating insects or making gazillions of big windblown pollen grains (think most all grasses, corn and Pine Trees, etc.,) is I sure don’t know.
It is the surface proteins on the pollen that make it into your nose and sinuses that one breathes in that your body recognizes as ‘foreign proteins’ and mobilizes all sorts of chemicals called histamines that try to protect your body from this foreign invader. Your body kind of over does it and you get all the symptoms of runny nose, red eyes, sneezing etc. that your body uses to get rid of this stuff. That is why we take antihistamines to counteract the histamines that your body goes way overboard on.
There is some pollen in honey that has similar surface coat proteins, but because it is designed to be sticky and have itself adhere to a honey bee and not float around in the air, it does not get up your nose. Instead, in very small amounts, it gets into your digestive tract after eating the honey, where it is found in small amounts, the possible reactions are much reduced--not eliminated, but reduced. It is a gamble if eating honey with the minute different kind of sticky insect-delivered pollen found in honey has any real benefit to warding off reactions compared to big balloon-like windblown pollen in huge amounts found in your respiratory tract. But, many folks swear it does and so it could be a placebo effect or it could work in some cases. Either way, honey sales go up.
Q Raw is Raw is Raw
Thanks for the Classroom and taking the time to answer so many questions. I was wondering at what temperature can you heat your honey and still call it raw? It seems to me that everyone has their own opinion. I heat my crystallized honey to about 120 degrees so I can bottle it and not scoop it. Is this too high? I just want to make sure it’s raw.
Thanks for your time,
Nick
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Let me put in a plug for finely crystallized honey as the final consumer end product. Done right, finely crystallized honey, sometimes called "creamed" honey, is smooth and creamy, retaining all the flavor and essence of freshly capped honey and is easy to spread and use. In fact, most of the world uses "creamed" honey because of its flavor, mouth feel, and ease of use as it doesn't drip or run. That is my sales pitch:)
Temperature around the brood nest is about 92F to 94F. Remember that honey is full of the odors of the nectar it is made from and those other volatiles that give it taste and flavor. When you expose honey to the air, these evaporate. When you expose honey to the air and add heat, it happens more quickly and thoroughly. That is why the honeys in the Big Box Grocery kind of all taste the same, which is kind of bland and more bland.
So, is 120F too high? To stop granulation it is fine. To produce REAL, flavorful honey it is too high. But, it is all a tradeoff. “Raw” unheated honey makes the best creamed honey. Just do it.
Q Apiguard
This is my first experience using Apiguard Foil Pack on my hive to control varroa mites. I am now in the 14-day waiting period before the next dose. I have observed in the morning the bees leaving a white larvae and even white skeletons of bees on the entrance. Should I be concerned? Can you tell me what they are doing?
Jerry S
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At this time of the year, it is hard to tell Jerry. If you are in a region where 'winter' is moderate to severe and flower resources are diminishing or gone and the colony does not have or want to devote the resources to feeding larvae and pupae, they are dragging some out to lower this threshold of nutrition. I doubt that in a strong two-brood nest colony that the Apiguard is causing this. Apiguard will encourage honey bees to become more hygienic and remove more marginal colony members. My guess is that the bees are simply removing extraneous larvae and others that are not needed such as drone larvae and pupae because of nutrition or lack thereof rather than damage caused by Apiguard. Apiguard is a good product.
Q Luke... I Am Your Father.....
Jerry, I have been watching you now closely over the past year since your switch, transition, or whatever it is called to Monsanto. As a former “corporate” minion I wanted to check in with you to see how it is going. How have you adjusted to the soul-sucking time on the corporate hamster wheel? And how is the corporate chess game played during mind-numbing meetings? Have you really gone over to the Dark Side?
L. Marvin
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Thanks for the gut check. Has it been easy or even a little fun going from a close connection with beekeepers and the beekeeping world to a big corporation and having less day-to-day direct involvement with beekeepers? No, it hasn’t. So, the real question is why I am sticking it out as the only honey bee guy at Monsanto.
Here is a list:
1. Potential. We are still talking about finding a safe non-chemical varroa control going on 30 years after the first finds. There is the strong possibility that a discovery can be made using a non-chemical, non-GM, non-honey bee toxic varroa control. Imagine not having to put pesticides into a honey bee colony to control varroa, which causes probably 70-80% of total honey bee health problems.
2. Potential. Control the virus part of the varroa/virus complex that can’t even be addressed. Control safely, non-toxically the several honey bee viruses that varroa vectors and causes to replicate.
3. Some very nice, smart, energetic Monsanto team mates give me great confidence that 1 and 2 will be successful. There you go. I need your support, too.
Q Bee Stings
Every so often I get stung when I am inspecting my bees. I am not allergic to bee stings and normally when I get stung, I just scrape the sting off and in a few minutes the sting has gone. However, once in a while a bee will sting and by the time I have scraped the sting off, I continue to feel the sting because of the itching and then having the area starting to swell a little the next day. I am wondering if the reason for this would be that certain bees have a much more potent sting than others. It would be interesting to know.
What is your thought on this?
Thanks.
Bryan Coleman
A
I am not a Medical Doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. But, the toxin components, the proteins that make the venom toxin, can change slightly over time as the young honey bee matures. So, it is somewhat age dependent and can be seasonal as well. When you get stung, the venom composition is always similar, but slightly different based on if it is a newly emerged honey bee or an old seasoned veteran guard bee and your body reaction is thus variable, as it recognizes these variable foreign protein invaders. And then, of course, your body is always in flux and changing as well, naturally and in response to medications, especially, that you are taking. Many over-the-counter pain relievers called NSAIDs (Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs) like Motrin, Advil, Nuprin, even aspirin, can make you more sensitive to “bee stings”. An explanation is never cut and dried or just one factor and so it causes one to pause and look at the bigger picture, which makes things even more interesting.
Q Powdered Sugar for Varroa Control
It's been a long time since I last wrote to you. But that doesn't mean that I haven't been reading your column. We beekeepers need you for a fast and assured way to get answers to our questions.
My question is about the use of powdered sugar for varroa control. Sneaking a peep between the frames after dusting, I noticed that the lips of the open cells catch some of that sugar. What will the bees do with that sugar? Will they eat it? Will they store it in the honey? If the sugar falls in the brood cells, how will this affect the young larvae?
Thank you for your patience,
Sam Atsaides
Rhodes, Greece
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Thank you for the compliment, Sam. Powdered sugar is the only varroa control that the “bees” can eat. Good feature. The only negative effect it would have is if it actually coated the larva or uncapped pupae. This rarely happens and as such is an effective mechanical varroa control. It is certainly labor intensive if you have lots of colonies, but does not introduce pesticides into a honey bee colony and is very innocuous.
Q Winter Feeding?
I am feeding a hive of bees 2 parts sugar to 1 part water and pollen substitute to build them up right now as winter feed. I got a swarm of bees about the first of September. They had built comb up under the eaves of a building; it was about the size of a basketball, not a big swarm. I hived them into two medium boxes. Should I be feeding them liquid feed or should I feed them candy for the winter? We live in Oregon
Thanks
Ben
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Free Bees are always an enticement to beekeepers. There is a very old saying, “A swarm in May is worth a load of hay, a swarm in June is worth a silver spoon, a swarm in July isn’t worth a fly.” You get the gist of it. Hiving a Sept. feral colony is an experiment for sure and I guess that you will find out what you have in the spring. I think the requirements for maintaining a honey bee colony don’t change i.e. 50 + lbs of honey or sugar carbs, sufficient beebread, few Varroa, no bacterial diseases, and lots of good comb ready for the queen to use, etc.
I do not know where in Oregon you are and the winter could be semi-mild or really cold, snowy and long. Let me know how your experiment goes. Right now you have invested in welfare bees and they could pay off with returns later this year with lots of honey and swarm again in Sept. or die before this happens. This is part of the fun of beekeeping if you have the time and resources and are interested in how Darwin came up with his “Survival of the Fittest” theory.
The Classroom January 2013
by Jerry Hayes
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Q Vanishing Act
Something very strange has happened. I have 5 hives in my backyard in Idaho. All 5 were very successful this year, gave me plenty of surplus and upon inspection looked healthy. I have been giving them sugar water for the last couple of weeks getting them ready for winter. We will call hive #1 my problem hive. All of them have been taking the sugar water and emptying it on a daily basis using the Boardman feeder with quarts.
Hive #1 - I last checked it about 4 weeks ago and it looked very active. It had several frames of capped honey and sugar water and a good brood pattern down below. Today I came home and it looked deserted at the front entrance. When I opened it up, it’s about 65 degrees here right now, it was completely empty. I mean empty, no dead bees, no live bees, no bees. It still had several frames of capped honey, some older capped brood (some spotty), some in a good pattern, but no bigger than a fist. There are very few, if any, dead bees in front of the hive. I always look at the front of my hives during the season to see how my population is doing. I opened each of the other hives and they are all doing well right now.
What the heck happened?
Thank you,
Mark
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Good Morning Mark. If there were no adults and no queen left and a little brood, but not much, the colony may have “absconded”—meaning for some reason they collectively decided things were getting stressful for them such as the seasonal change to winter and they simply all left to find a better place. Little did they know they were in a place where escape is not possible. This is typical African Bee behavior. You can have African genetic introgression and not have the defensive aggressive behavior. Where did your queens come from?
Q Mark Has Another Question
Is it possible that it could be CCD? Everything that I have been reading about Idaho bees is that there is no sign of African bees, yet?
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The queen and a few hundred workers with lots of brood and honey are normally left behind in CCD. You don’t have to have a natural expansion of African honey bees (AHB) into Idaho to have AHB. Anybody who buys queens from Texas, Arizona, Southern California, New Mexico, and Southern Nevada may have AHB genetics. So, if you or anybody within 10 miles of you has purchased queens from AHB areas, the probability is extremely high that AHB with a swipe of a credit card are in Idaho....or any other state.
Q Chilly Reception
Thanks to a tenant farmer at one of my bee yards, I now have lost three bee hives due to his activity. I need to know just what to do to clean up the frames that now have wax moth larvae so that I can re-use them in the spring. I have heard that if you put them in a freezer that this will kill all wax moth stages? I use Pierco coated frames in all my hives very successfully.
J. Neil Thompson
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Certainly, freezing the rascals would be an excellent option to do the job. Depending on the degree of damage they have done to the comb proper, they may be killed in the freezer and the frame/comb can be used again for the bees to do the minor repairs. If more extensive damage occurred, the hard plastic foundation with the imprint of the cell as a guide can be re-coated with melted beeswax and can be re-used successfully again. (Be extremely careful melting beeswax as it is flammable if too hot.)
Q Genetic Diversity
I wonder why worker bees are described as being genetically identical “sisters”. If the queen bee mates with multiple drones, wouldn’t they be half sisters, so to speak? Different fathers would mean different genetic makeup, seems to me . . . just curious.
Spirit
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You are absolutely right. And these genetic sub families also seem to join together in those opportunities to raise supersedure or swarm queens. There is a bit of competition when queens “need” to be raised between and among these sub families. One family of sisters can recognize the larvae of their family and also what is not in their direct family. So, they select larvae from their family, Queen /Drone combination, which they can then feed and promote as one of the new virgins that may become the new queen. Makes sense to support your genetics. And then all the other sub families are doing the same thing to see whose genetics will ultimately dominate by way of a fertile female . . . the queen. So, when you see lots of queen cells in a colony, remember that they can be from several different sub-families as a selection process to let the strong survive. Great question.
Q How Do You Feed a Queen?
I have some questions: How does the queen eat; what does she eat; do the bees feed her sugar syrup when bees are fed sugar syrup? I would appreciate your help here. My understanding is that, yes, she is fed and groomed daily, but who feeds her, the nurse bees?
Much obliged,
Chandra
Florida
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That is an excellent question and I thought I knew the answer. The answer I had been taught was that “nurse bees” feed the queen. OK, sounds good, but then I thought as you did, what do they actually feed her? I can’t find an answer that I am happy with? I have found some citations from 40 years ago that say, “Adult queens are fed mostly brood food, possibly with some additional honey.” That seems too sketchy. Does the ‘brood food’ have enough protein in it to support the maturation of the 2000 eggs per day that a queen may lay in the height of spring/summer? Does the queen have to draw upon protein from her internal organs to meet this demand? What if the nurse bees are feeding on a nutritionally incomplete diet of some kind of commercial pollen substitute, which, of course, determines what food they can provide from their brood food glands (hypopharyngeal glands)? I am asking others this question Chandra to see if we can get a better answer. Until then, it looks like “brood food and honey”.
Q Beetles
Jerry, this past Sunday we harvested honey from one of our hives in the backyard. When we went into the hive, we pulled four frames and left four in the hive. The small frames were nice and full and the honey is great, not too sweet with a "woodsy" flavor. However, when we picked up two of the frames, we saw on each one, a single small hive beetle (SHB) running around trying to hide. I've read numerous articles about setting traps down in the bottom of the hive and watching for slime if the population of the beetles becomes rampant. Also, I have heard that with a beetle infestation, they can cause the honey to ferment.
Since we have the calmer North American bees (not Africans), they seem to coexist with as opposed to eliminating the beetles. I’ve read that the beetles can burrow into the soil beneath the hives where the larvae hatch, especially if the soil is soft. Being in Dallas, TX, our soil is hard clay, but we had put mulch around the fenced off area trying to keep the St. Augustine grass and ivy, etc. from growing into the area. I wonder if it would help if I scraped away all the mulch and possibly put small pebbles or rocks on top of the soil or even tried to just have bare soil, but try and keep as dry as possible? Is it a major warning sign that we saw two beetles or should we not be too concerned at this point about visually seeing two beetles in the hive?
Thanks,
Fred Owen
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Hey Fred, seeing two small hive beetles (SHB) is not terrible or unusual, especially in Texas. I would have expected you to see more and there may, in fact, be more that have moved in during this email. SHB are looking for a location to raise baby SHB in. A colony of weak, disorganized honey bees with exposed honey is a lure. Having a big colony with a bee on every inch of comb that can protect and police the hive and comb is optimal. Less than that and it is an opening for SHB to take advantage of unprotected honey, beebread and brood as a protein source for developing honey bee larvae. Once started and you see slime and SHB larvae, it is way past the point of no return with thousands of larvae. Ground treatments are basically worthless because the damage has already been done. And, as SHB larvae leave the colony and drop to the ground, they do not necessarily burrow into the ground in or around the colony as they can crawl 100-200 yards to find a good place to pupate. You need to prevent the beetle infestation from getting to this advanced stage. SHB traps are good; healthy colonies with bees on every inch of comb are good. If you don't have this, take some boxes off and crowd the bees down. Take extra frames of honey and freeze them or extract them. And, then keep your eyes open and keep checking. Hang in there!
Q Autumn Quandry
I’m in a quandary as what to do: A small swarm landed in our back yard two days ago. I boxed it up into a hive that has a few top bar frames that are drawn out. These are in a Langstroth hive, so I put the swarm in it and added some Dadant frames with foundation to make 10 frames. I sprayed all of the frames with some sugar water mixed with Honey B Healthy. I closed it up for a couple of days. I just looked in and they are all over the frames and I found the queen. Now, this is a very small swarm about the size of a cantaloupe. I added a Boardman feeder and closed up the entrance to a very small hole.
It is October and we are still having 80 degree weather, dropping to the low 50's high 40's at night. What do you suggest I do with this swarm? Is it worth saving? If so, how the heck do I do that? I do have 5 other hives in my back yard that are doing very well.
Thank you,
Mark
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Mark, something like this is always interesting, but let me give you some facts to think about. Honey bees are, for the most part, temperate insects (not the African Bee) that their ancestors learned /developed/ turned genes on that allowed them to figure out how to asexually reproduce as early in spring as possible. This gives the reproductive swarm an opportunity to beat the odds and do all those things to build up into a colony with 50+ pounds of stored honey to make it through a long, hard dark European winter. That is why man developed a relationship with these insects that adapted to ‘winter’ and stored lots of food that we could take and eat without a whole lot of production and collection effort on our ancestors’ part.
So, a genetic system is put into place that selected for honey bees that could do this successfully and thereby successfully spread those genetics around. Fast forward to the relationship that developed over time with humans and the human desire to preserve all genetics, good or bad, because it seems like a good thing to do. Charles Darwin broke ground on some of this in “Origin of the Species” and in many cases survival of the fittest, meaning those that can’t adapt to environmental conditions die and remove those flawed genetics. We, humans, have short circuited this to some degree. Look at some of the breeds of chickens, cows, hogs and how about Turkeys that are so big they can’t mate naturally anymore so everything is by instrumental insemination . . . but I digress.
We as beekeepers now have accepted honey bees that cannot exist without our intervention. We treat for varroa or American foulbrood and we often feed them sugar to store, above and beyond the amount we take, to help them get through a real temperate winter, etc.
So, the real question is: Mark do you really want to keep a swarm that has decided to swarm at a season where, without your intervention, they would die and remove those flawed genetics. Or, are you willing to keep this swarm, cross your fingers that you can feed them all winter and wrap them to keep them warm enough and keep them alive, so that those genes, that supported swarming in October, can be passed on with any drones or queens that might result from your experiment?
Your decision
The Classroom December 2012
by Jerry Hayes
excerpt
As the holidays approach, it is time to reflect on what links us together as beekeepers — our honey bees. Honey bees are tough and fragile, wild and tolerant, social and independent. Does that sound familiar? It should because it is not unlike us. “We” were all part of the Creation Process, however you understand that to have happened. Take time to look around and blank out some of the white noise of your world and be grateful. Have an Attitude of Gratitude for this opportunity to know honey bees and each other. Then, step back and see how this will fit into your awareness for now and for the New Year just around the corner. Merry Christmas!
Q A Different Winter Hive Configuration?
In an effort to help the bees survive our winters here at the 38th parallel in NE Kansas, I'm thinking there might be some helpful things that could be done, and I'm wondering if you or any other beekeeper have considered them?
The current winter hive is two stacked boxes made of 3/4" thick planks for sides, an opening on the bottom in two planes at the entrance, the screen bottom and a small opening at the top. This keeps the bees out of the wind, and allows them to keep a bit of the heat they generate. The hole at the top moves the moisture they generate. My bet is more than a little of the heat goes out the top with the moisture. (This is the perfect 'solar' chimney, cool air in at the bottom, building heat exits out the top with the help of any wind).
While we think this is normal for our constructed hives, if we consider colonies out in the wild, we may see colonies in a better configuration for keeping wind out, heat in, and moving moisture. Imagine a large cavity in a dead tree with a fist size entrance hole, or, a cavity in a stud wall of a building. My guess is these protected wild colonies actually have better living conditions, and possibly better survival rates.
As a home builder and remodeler, keeping wind out and heat in has been fairly easy, using solid walls, operable openings and insulation. Moisture movement has, of course, produced a whole body of scientific research and information. For all those curious about moisture movement in your homes, and buildings, see Buildingscience.com. The Building Science engineers have identified four distinct heating, and cooling, regions in the US, each having their own distinct design responses, in relation to moisture as humidity and condensation.
Revisiting our manufactured hives, we know that we can't add doors and windows. There may, however, be a few easy things that could be done to improve the normal winter configuration.
To help the winter cluster be out of any direct heat robbing draft, could we remove the top inner that has the upper entrance? Generated heat will rise, but can't readily leave the box. Second, to keep cold winds from buffeting and cooling the air around the winter cluster, add another (empty?) hive body on the bottom; this puts the bees further from the cold and wind. I think the recently devised screen bottoms may adequately allow moisture build up inside to be diluted enough, so as not to be a hazard to the bees. Maybe studies have been done on this already. In lieu of a box on the bottom, I'm thinking that adding a short vertical baffle about 1 1/2" inside the bottom entrance might be helpful to reduce buffeting winds.
I like the idea of an insulation board on top, to help hold heat. What I'd rather see/have is a top feeder, with a center entrance, which would be right on top of the cluster, rather than entrances at the outer edges.
In all these considerations, when I say 'heat' I'm pretty sure none of these ideas are going to raise the interior temperature much. Ideally, the changes would keep colder, moving air out of the hives, allowing the temperature to maybe be more constant, at least around the bees, which, intuitively, seems better.
Thoughts?
Kerry McMillen
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Well, you have been thinking, Kerry. This is always preferable to the opposite. Since you are more versed on all of this due to your building experience and practice, let me share some things I think I know about feral colonies nesting in cavities.
Years ago I read a research report that shared the following: In a study of feral honey bee colonies nesting in tree cavities, 80% were found to select a tree with an entrance and a cavity large enough (long enough) to allow this entrance to be above the brood nest with space below to act as a trash can for falling hive debris. This makes sense if the brood nest is to be more stable in relation to warmth and humidity. Excess warmth and humidity vents up the cavity and out the entrance/exit. Without a bottom entrance/opening, this upward ventilation is not as free flowing as in a honey bee colony with a bottom and a top entrance.
Our honey bee hives are designed by humans for humans--the bottom entrance/exit (door) a little landing pad (porch) and several vertical stories (rooms). Honey bees are the opossums of the insect world, tolerating lots of different possible living arrangements without complaint. What is the optimum honey bee living space? Maybe nothing is.
So, knowing how 80% of feral colonies of European genetically based honey bees select a home, now what do you do? It might lead to a hive we have now, only with a top entrance and a empty bottom brood box (no frames) to put distance between hive garbage and the colony. We are creatures of habit and someone would have to calculate the health advantage offered over what we have now in order to get attention and adoption.
Q Timing
Thanks so very much for hosting The Classroom! Getting to the point: When does the Small Hive Beetle (SHB) stop laying eggs or reproducing for the season? Is it temperature driven, like wax moths? If so, what temp do you think stops their laying? I understand from bee experts that SHB can/will overwinter with the bee cluster in a colony.
I live in Alabama, 14 miles from the Tennessee state line. I’ve kept bees for 5 years and I currently run 2 yards in north Alabama and 2 yards in southern Tennessee. I learned to keep bees when I lived in northern Virginia. I’ve said all that to illustrate that I am still very much a bee-ginner trying to get a clue on things like small hive beetles. Thanks for taking time out to answer.
Keith Fletcher
P.S. You inspired me to keep bees, when I bought a copy of the March/April 2007 issue of Country Living magazine and read your article on packaged bees. I’ve been going full speed ever since. Keep on inspiring others!
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Thanks for the compliment Keith and I am glad you have kept going since 2007. Like everything else in nature, very rarely is an end point influenced by just one thing or event. Remember that the SHB is a tropical/subtropical insect. As such, temperature outside the hive is really important because if the SHB larvae are successful inside the hive, they have to come outside to bury themselves in the ground and pupate. This is tough to do in Minnesota in some seasons, but maybe not so hard in Alabama and Tennessee where warmer weather is later and earlier. Generally, when temperatures get below 75-80 F outside, days are getting shorter and pollen-producing flowers have finished. Then, all of the cues that tell a fertile SHB female to lay eggs are also finished temporarily. And, yes, SHB are survivors and have been found within honey bee clusters in winter staying snug and warm until it is time for them to reproduce.
We are all bee-ginners Keith. Anyone who says in person or on the Web that they have all the answers and are experts should be eyed with suspicion. Honey bees are very humbling because they are so diverse and flexible and we cannot always anticipate how they will react to a situation every time.
The Classroom November 2012
by Jerry Hayes
Q Tricky Business
Though I’ve been keeping bees for years, it was only last year that I got really serious about mite control. I used the “powdered sugar” test and was both alarmed and relieved to finally understand why my bees didn’t produce more during heavy flows. I used Mite-away. All of my hives came through the winter fine.
This spring I requeened all 12 of my hives with queens from a very reputable supplier. About a month after re-queening I treated with Mite-away. I followed the instructions closely. These were all two brood-chamber hives with more than 8 frames of brood. I’d been feeding both syrup and pollen substitute and they were healthy and growing. I had checked to make sure all of the new queens were laying.
I put the two pads between the two chambers and added a small empty super on each to allow them to expand. I left the pads in place for 10 to 12 days. When I inspected them 3 weeks later, 5 of the hives had queen cells, which I removed. Over the next few months I had at least 3 additional hives that produced new queens from queen cells I apparently missed. As far as I know, none of these hives swarmed. They just replaced the queens. ( I know they were replaced because all of the queens I installed were marked).
I talked to the queen producer and he said he had a number of customers who experienced the same thing and all of them had used Mite-away. They blamed the Mite-away.
Here it is approaching fall and I have 3 splits that are strong enough to treat (all with new queens) and the sugar test shows 4 or 5 mites from ½ cup of bees, so I need to treat.
I had no trouble losing queens with the treatment I gave last year at this time of year, but I’m hesitant to lose these new queens. What should I do? Could I use just one pad to reduce impact?
Jim
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Killing a little bug on a big bug is hard on both. There is no easy answer to varroa mite control and that is why we are still trying to figure this out 25 years or so after the varroa mite was found in the US. The biggest problem with varroa controls is what to use that kills, damages or otherwise slows down varroa and causes the least collateral damage to all stages of honey bees and their home ...beeswax comb. I commend you for using organic acids and surveying with powdered sugar. The organic acids can work well, but they are limited in use to a certain temperature and humidity range. Remember that these are ACIDs and are designed to chemically attack what they come in contact with. In this case it is to have the formic acid dissolve, damage, and otherwise eat up the exoskeleton of the varroa, its antenna, feet and other softer parts of its body. The honey bee queen is much bigger, the honey bee workers are much bigger, drones are much larger and more robust, but they still have softer parts of their exoskeleton that can be damaged by the "acid". Let’s say that one uses an organic acid for varroa control, according to label directions for X number of days. Honey bees communicate in various ways. One of the primary ways is with odors called pheromones that they "smell". Honey bees "smell" with their antennae. Hurt, damage or overwhelm the antennae with the strong odor of the acid and the colony can’t get colony updates of what is going on and many times they think they are queenless and that it is time to make queen cells. That is the tricky part of varroa control. Sometimes these things work and sometimes they don't. These acids always also hurt the "big bug", the honey bee. This is why we need a non-chemical control for varroa. Folks I know are working on it, even as I speak.
Q Rain, Rain
Jerry, what is the best time to find a swarm? Last year it rained all the time. People claimed to have bees swarming every day. How does rain play a part in swarming?
Thanks,
Brian
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We are working with an insect, the European Honey Bee, that developed in a cold temperate region of the world. They are always preparing for winter, which if you are genetically programmed to survive a long cold northern European winter, takes time so you need to start these preparations as early in spring as possible. You also want to spread your genetics around as genetic insurance against your colony’s death by any number of environmental factors, predators, diseases, etc. To do this you may asexually reproduce by splitting the colony in half. Half leaves and half stays in the original location...called swarming. This happens usually early in spring to give the swarm time to build up for winter. Swarming impulse has lots of cues like longer day length, increasing temperatures, plenty of flower food resources and crowding of the colony with lots of brood and lots of workers with little space left in the hive. They simply need more room. This imperfect cue of crowding can take place when all of the things above happen and then add in a long period of rain, bad unsettled cooler weather, etc., that forces foragers to stay in the colony and reinforces this premature crowding cue.
They would have swarmed anyway, it would just have taken longer except the rain kept everybody in the hive and the crowding was enhanced. And, voila, the colony reproduced by swarming. I hope this helps.
Q Corn Dust
I have a question Jerry..... I’m a corn farmer and a beginning beekeeper. I need chemicals for the corn borer worm and I also need to keep my dust down away from my hive....Farmers are not the bees’ enemy, the European corn borer worm is....I’d like to know more about seed treatments. I like to read your Classroom in the bee journal--very interesting.
Thanks,
Brian
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Thank you for your interest, Brian. We, beekeepers, farmers, suburbanites, everyone, are in this together. You, as a farmer and a beekeeper, can play a critical role in helping protect the health of your bees. Seed treatments are a lot better than the ‘old’ days when a farmer had to spray insecticides on acre after acre after acre. In those days spraying one acre covered about 44,000 sq. ft of land. The use of seed treatments is very targeted and reduces this to approximately 24 sq ft of land. This is a tremendous reduction. It is better than spraying everywhere on everything. In addition, it is a best practice in the seed treatment industry to understand the source of the “dust” and put in quality controls to minimize that dust. One way is to start with clean seeds. Another is to include polymers in the development of a seed treatment. These polymers are similar to those used in the paint and coating industry. The use of a polymer in seed treatments not only minimizes the dust from treated seeds, but also helps to improve the flow and plantability of the seeds.
There is a very thorough seed dust testing procedure and all new seed treatments are evaluated using industry standard testing. This work ensures that there will be effective seed treatments with minimal dust coming off the seed. Various polymers have been used for seed treatments and research is ongoing to find even better polymers. This includes looking at polymers that will form a good barrier on the seed then degrading after planting to allow the seed treatment to work better and to let the seed sprout. Finding the “perfect” polymer that breaks apart in the soil at a specific time is not as easy as it sounds, but the seed treatment industry is diligently working on this. In addition to new polymers, work is also being done studying flow agents like talc and graphite replacements that will reduce the amount of dust that is exhausted from the farmer’s planter. As a farmer, you can also help by not spreading dust when opening seed bags, avoid adding dust from the bottom of the bag to the planter, follow planter manufacturer recommendations for use of talc or graphite and be aware of wind directions when planting.
Q Timing Is Everything
Hello Jerry, I have a question about what could be causing my hives to have low adult bee populations? Here is my situation. I live in Eastern Georgia on the coastal plain. I have fifty hives and last fall almost every one had their deep and med brood chambers packed with bees and stores. I treated with Terra-pro, Apiguard, and gave some Nozevit, and several pounds of pollen sub to each colony. In Feb I treated with Tylan, fed some more pollen, and the bees looked great. They were put on canola at the end of February. I sold 50 three-pound packages in March and April and then soon afterward 75-95 percent of them swarmed. Ten ended up without queens, but I successfully requeened them. Then, I moved them to north Georgia for sourwood. Even though there were 8 plus frames of brood in a lot of colonies, only about 20% made decent crops of 40-70 lbs. All summer, many of the colonies didn't make any surplus honey and the supers have practically no bees in them. Recently, I decided that Nosema must be seriously hurting the adult population. I sent samples of bees from the entrances of two hives to the Beltsville bee lab and they had 2.5 and 5.5 million spores per bee. I know that may not be very accurate, but anyhow some people say that is really high and Randy Oliver says his bees thrive with spore counts like that in late summer. What is your opinion? If you think nosema is the problem, do you have any recommendations on treatment, especially if there is no antibiotic treatment window between Feb and Sept? I know this is my business decision, but any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks a lot,
Bradlyn Wadel
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Sorry for all the problems you are having, but this is a new business model for beekeepers. Sometimes you do certain things and they look great and then you do the same things and they look crummy.
My first question would be: Why are you treating with Tylan and Terra-pro? Do you have AFB or EFB? If not, then these antibiotics are causing ‘stress’ for the bees and making it harder for them to get a certain degree of nutrition if you kill all of their good gut microbes. Then, pollen sub can be eaten or dragged out as trash, depending on colony needs and season. I have attached a paper for you to take a look at. I am not sure Nozevit hurts particularly, but I am not sure there is data that says it does much either.
Did you do a complete dosage treatment with Apiguard to cover the multi-week period of brood emerging and Varroa with them? Remember that 2/3 of Varroa are behind cappings in sealed cells with developing brood as they reproduce also. One treatment may only kill or disable phoretic or exposed Varroa mites and not do anything to the reproducing Varroa behind capped cells. Nosema could be an issue, but in summer generally honey bees can leave the hive and void/defecate and spore numbers are reduced. There is some data that suggests that honey bees exposed to chemicals and antibiotics will have a higher Nosema spore load because the honey bee’s gut lining cells die sooner, leaving an opening for Nosema and competing good organisms are not there to compete to make it harder for Nosema to reproduce in the gut cells. Then, you have the queen issue and did they supersede multiple times breaking up the brood replacement cycle. And did the Sourwood yield like it has historically or was there a change in nectar production as well?
As you know, honey production depends on having lots of foragers, which means little Varroa pressure, and visible disease pressure. These foragers want to forage for lots of nectar because the queen is laying well and there is this cue for food collection to meet immediate demand with lots of empty space to store it. Then, as insurance these insects are always preparing for winter and if resources are available, surplus will be stored. Break up or minimize any of these prime requirements and you will have a decrease in visible honey production.
Why you didn’t have lots of bees with lots of reasons to forage and a place to store it is a question for you as the beekeeper manager. Varroa control is imperative with safe efficacious Varroa treatments, following label directions. This should go hand in hand along with queen presence and stability and appropriate food resources to encourage laying. These are all top concerns.
I don’t think the spore level you noted in summer is a deal breaker. Going into fall with this spore count might be a different story.
Q Night Extracting
Thanks for such a great column--now for my question. We are getting ready to extract for the first time at home. The only place I have to extract is my patio. If I wait until night time, will the bees leave me alone? The hives are about 20 feet away. Thanks for the help.
Jerry S. Wilson
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Thank you Jerry (Great name!) for the compliment.
It is always best to not entice the colonies with odors, visuals or sticky residues if at all possible. Can I assume that by your email address that this extraction will yield raw materials for Flat Earth Brewing its next Honey Beer? And, can I also assume that your patio is not screened in? Twenty feet is pretty close. You can’t get inside and use a kitchen with plastic sheeting on the floor and a patient and understanding spouse or significant other? Do you have friends with homes or garages that honey supers could be taken to and not worry about the potential collateral damage of lots of things you haven’t even thought about? I am sure your mind has bounced around about all of these options and I hope you can activate one of them.
If not, honey bees cannot see the color red. Since you will have to see and do not want to extract during the day (crazy robbing behavior), you could put red light bulbs in the fixtures. The light will allow you to see, but not the bees, and any excitement you may cause may still allow them to leave the hive, but most will crawl and not fly, which can help initially (until they start crawling up your pants!).
Jerry, I would encourage you for your very first extraction to go someplace secure, closed in, with no access by your bees or other insects. This will allow you to have a nice relaxed first honey extraction. If not, this might not be a great first experience either then or the day after!
Q Deception in the Queen's Court
I’ve been out of the game for the last couple of years, but I’m back. I had both of my hips replaced last year, and previous to that, the lifting and twisting was just too much for me and I let my bees slide. I started from scratch this spring with two colonies.
Several weeks ago in one hive I found queen cells with larvae, so I took off a nucleus and raised brood comb above the queen excluder, and replaced with some empty frames. I didn’t record any dates, but a week to 10 days later I noticed bees clustering at the entrance and thought I’d better check them again as they might still be thinking of swarming. I found the queen, lots of brood, and eggs, and no swarm cells. As I was putting the hive back together (it was in four deeps and three shallows with a double brood chamber), I noticed a queen cup above the queen excluder with an egg in it. I used to think the workers would move eggs to a queen cell as it just seemed a little hard to believe that the queen would always abdicate the throne all on her own accord. Somewhere in my reading, I decided to discard that idea. Now I’m not so sure. The only thing I can think of is that the egg was there when I raised the brood, didn’t hatch and wasn’t removed by the house keepers, (which seems to me pretty unlikely?) or the queen managed to lay an egg through the queen excluder. If that was the case, why were there no eggs in the queen cups below the excluder? This is a fairly populous colony; could there have been a small band of insurgents that were knee bent on swarming, and didn’t get the message that the revolution was quashed?
Eric Anderson
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There is no data that I am aware of that indicates that individual honey bees somehow will have the intellectual capacity to realize that a replacement queen is needed in another part of the hive. Then, to also know or anticipate how old an egg is and then to pull it up away from its sticky end, safely transport it and stick it back down in place in another cell, in another part of the hive or comb. And, to then allow it to hatch and be accepted as the receiver of lots of royal jelly-laced food to develop into a female capable of mating in the air with lots of drones.
All that said, this type of report happens all the time. So, what is really going on is the question. I guess if I have a vote, it would be that somehow, someway an egg was already in place and it just happened that it was in the right place at the right time.
Glad you are back as a beekeeper
Q Canola Honey
We keep 20 hives of bees in Manitoba, Canada, just north of the North Dakota, Minnesota border and Canola is one of our main honey sources. However, Canola will crystallize in the comb fairly quickly. The problem arises when you have taken off the canola honey and remaining supers on the hive may contain some canola in them and while waiting for second-cut alfalfa to fill the combs, it is at that extraction when the crystallization becomes the problem. The question is----- what is the best method to get that crystallized honey out of the cells and in some cases most of an entire frame?
Thank you,
Brian Smith
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Honey crystallizes at varying rates based on the sugar ratios in the nectar/honey that is produced. The honey, in effect, is trying to balance the sugar ratios and so some precipitate out as crystals. Canola will crystallize incredibly quickly and many times, if one misses an extraction window, it will crystallize right in the comb. It crystallizes so firmly that many times honey bees will not even try to remove it, even when starving. So, all that said, it can be a big solid mess—a bigger mess if it is in the brood nest. And, as you have found out, it influences the next nectar collected in the same comb.
The only way to get it out is to melt the whole comb and heat it to such a degree that the wax separates from the liquefying honey. If using one of the hard plastic foundations, one has to scrap it down to the foundation and melt the wax/honey mixture from there. Not easy, not pretty and not the first choice. But, at least, you are replacing comb with new foundation and with new comb sometime in the future if you want to rationalize and put a better face on it. Hang in there. If beekeeping were easy, everybody would be doing it.
Q Moisture in Honey?
Jerry, I read with great interest your response to "Humidity and a Sweet Deal" in your Classroom Column in the Sept. 2012 issue of ABJ. I have routinely experienced the excessive moisture in capped honey you indicate as a "fact of life in some southern states". However, I live in southern New Jersey. I am lucky and blessed to have bountiful honey crops and therefore only extract frames with >90% capped honey, usually bottle it within a day, yet still experience the greater than 18% moisture. Disappointingly, this pure product has been disqualified from honey shows more than once. I believe the moisture percent for defining honey has been established, at least in the USA, by the FDA, yet in its purest form, my honey cannot meet this simple requirement.
I have two questions: First, more academically, when and how was the specific moisture percent established as the standard; why is so much emphasis placed upon these numbers? And second, how can I achieve this percentage without heating, blending, or otherwise manipulating my natural product? Thank you so much.
Phyllis Smith
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I know New Jersey gets hot, humid weather from time to time and so do many other states. This weather can sometimes cause high moisture honey. I remember having 20% moisture in honey when I lived in Michigan years ago. But, you will have to admit that the Southeastern States are generally more consistent in humidity and heat when honey bees are collecting nectar many times of the year. Like most things in life, the 18% moisture level is an average across the product for the US. Take a look at http://www.fao.org/docrep/meeting/005/x4616e/x4616e0b.htm where you will find the Intl Standard, which is much higher than and deviates from some local/regional definitions in the US. If the bees cap the honey above 18%, then it is what it is without your intervention to decrease the moisture. And, if you go to http://
www.honey.com/images/downloads/honeydefs.pdf, you will see a range for honey moisture that is typical in the US. So, I don’t think you are locked into 18% Phyllis, but it is an accepted “average”.
Of course, the goal here is to establish a standard moisture percentage maximum at which honey will not ferment. However, honey can still sometimes ferment, even at 18% moisture. You definitely do not want your honey to ferment, unless you are making mead. Fermented honey can blow the lids off containers and cause not only a mess, but a lot of customer ill will!
If you test your honey before you start uncapping frames, you can remove excess moisture with heat and dry air in a confined area (a hot room). Crisscross the supers to obtain maximum surface area exposure to the hot, dry air. If your honey is already extracted, gently heating it for a period of time will drive off some moisture, but the heat can also harm the flavor and color of the honey. Commercial honey dehydrators are available, but are too expensive for the smaller beekeeper.
Q Do Bees Have Trouble with Electricity?
I could use some help. For many years I have heard electrical interference, i.e./high tension power lines etc., can disrupt and hamper the honey bee's sense of navigation. I am in the process of establishing a couple permanent beeyard locations in "Bear Country". My plan is to build an enclosure out of 4x16 foot welded stockade fencing panels. As a bear deterrent, I would mount this all on insulated poles and electrify it with a livestock fencer.
I have two questions: 1. Will the electrical current generated be disruptive to the bees’ sense of navigation? 2. Will flying in and out through the grid openings in the stockade fencing (approximately 6x10 inches) also be significantly detrimental to their efficiency? Thank you in advance for your help in this matter.
Paul Burczyck
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JOE GRAHAM ANWSERS FIRST then JERRY HAYES ANSWERS
Thousands beekeepers have electrified bear fences and we have never heard of any of them having the kinds of problems about which you have inquired. Some research was done years ago regarding placing beehives under high tension electrical lines, but to my knowledge, nothing definitive was ever established by the research. I am forwarding your question on to Jerry Hayes, who writes our Classroom column, in case he has anything else to add to the discussion.
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Hello Paul, I would have to agree with Joe that there will be no deleterious effects from a DC "Bear Fence”. Remember that honey bees have been around for millions of years dealing with natural electrical disturbances (solar flares), cosmic rays, background radiation, etc. and they, like us, have adapted. You'll be fine and the bees will be fine--much better off than a hungry bear eating their brood and honey!
The Classroom October 2012
by Jerry Hayes
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Q Honey Bee Decline
I attended your recent talk--very good presentation and overall session. You listed 8 reasons for the decline of the honey bee population. I didn’t take notes. Do you mind sending those 8 factors to me?
Thanks,
Chris
RNA Tech
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Thanks Chris. Some honey bee health variables are:
1) Colony level stress from physically moving this insect’s nest from one location to another. It is amazing that honey bee colonies can be picked up, loaded on a semi (approx. 500 per load) driven across the US and set down somewhere and have them re-adjust and do things like pollination and nectar collection that the beekeeper needs them to do.
2) Varroa destructor mites. These large external parasitic mites originally adapted for a parasitic relationship with the Asian species of honey bee (Apis cerana), but now successfully live and reproduce on the unadapted European species of honey bee (Apis mellifera). The mite feeds directly on the developing or adult honey bees’ hemolymph. Worst of all, it vectors viruses, causes immuno-suppression and leaves open wounds as an entry way for pathogens, etc. It is probably the cause of 70%-80% of overall honey bee negative health issues
3) Other pathogens also take advantage of the honey bee colony’s weakened condition such as approx. 20 other viruses that are latent until a stressor comes along; bacteria such as American Foulbrood and European Foulbrood; Fungus-like Chalkbrood; the microsporidian, Nosema apis or ceranae; secondary predators--wax moths and small hive beetles.
4) Environmental toxins that honey bees are exposed to while foraging outside the colony. Honey bees are flying dust mops and intentionally and unintentionally bring lots of “stuff” back to the hive.
5) Beekeepers introduce acaricides into every honey bee colony multiple times per year in order to control Varroa mites. It is hard trying to kill a bug on a bug (wrong descriptive, but you get the idea).
6) One of the wild cards in this is beeswax, which is a fatty acid and attracts many chemicals and sequesters them. The profile of a typical beeswax comb sample from a typical honey bee colony will have several of the acaricides, fungicides, herbicides and pesticides from the environment that the foragers were in contact with. These chemicals are a 24/7/365 exposure source for all honey bee life stages in the colony. And then, what is the synergism of these chemicals when mixed in a beeswax matrix?
7) Queen presence or absence. The queen is normally the only fertile female in the colony capable of laying fertile eggs. She is the mother of all and without her laying enough eggs to develop into colony caste members for replacement of bees as they wear out and die in 6-8 weeks, then the colony can dwindle and die.
8) Weather. Too hot or too cold--the Goldilocks factor. Are there enough bees in the colony for critical mass to moderate and modulate colony temperature, humidity, air exchange, etc?
I hope these are the 8 that you remembered.
Q Hive Beetles
Jerry, thanks for all you do to help us. I have found something that is a surprise to me. I caught a swarm and, as usual, didn't have things ready. I had only 8-frames ready at hand, so I put a super frame in with them planning on changing it out in the next day or so. Well you know how that goes, when I got around to changing it out, the bees had capped brood on the bottom of the super frame so I took some wax string and tied the capped brood in place in another super frame. That also was when I found the first Hive Beetle I have ever had along the NC/VA border near Mount Airy, NC. I got some traps for the beetles ASAP. I had requeened some of my hives a week after I caught the swarm with queens from Northern California. I don't know if that is how they got here or what, but it was only a matter of time before they would appear.
Today I was going through my bees checking my hive beetle trap and looking for queen cells when I found this. I will attach some pictures I took with a cell phone camera if you are interested. I will take some better ones with my camera. The beetles had gotten on some of the string I had used to tie in the brood comb and were eating the wax or something. The bees had propolized them to the string. There were no beetles running around when I opened the hive and only a couple in the trap. Is this safe and have you heard of anything like this before--they have unraveled the string and it makes a little fur ball on the string where the bees glue them in place? I will send you some of the string with and without beetles if you like. These pictures are not the best, but you can get an idea of what is happening.
Sam
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Sam, if you say you have found small numbers of small hive beetles (SHB) in the Mount Airy, NC region, I would not doubt you. With the warmer-than-usual winter we had and the earlier start to spring, this allowed SHB to survive and get an earlier start also. The SHB could have come as stowaways in the queens or from a native population, which is more likely. The fuzz is actually the honey bees themselves trying to remove the string and making the frayed fuzz. Honey bees do not have chewing mouth parts, so they have to kind of pull and tug at stuff they want to remove. If they can’t remove it, they will cover whatever it is with propolis.
Tying comb in with just plain cotton string, no wax, or even better, cotton yarn, allows for easier removal. I looked at the photos you sent and the image I saw was of a dead honey bee stuck near the string with the head and thorax that did not have wings or hair on, so it was black and shiny and could easily be mistaken for a SHB from a distance. Keep your colonies strong; keep your SHB trap operational in the hive and good luck this summer.
Q Great Glue!
I'm using homemade bottom boards with a groove for inserting an aluminum sheet to close up the hive when treating for mites. After one such treatment, I had to disassemble the hive to remove the sheet as it had been propolized in place. Do you have any advice as to treating the edges of the sheet to ease it into and out of place?
Thanks,
Bob
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Hello Bob, how about some Vaseline-type material to coat the edges and the groove itself. It is harder for the bees to coat Vaseline with propolis or remove it.
Q Encouragement
Say it isn’t so! Tell me that you haven’t gone over to the dark side! Oh the travesty of it all! Just kidding. Actually, CONGRATULATIONS. Just read your interview in Amer. Bee J. and I know that leaving your job (i.e., life) in Florida and starting a new job at Monsanto must have been a very difficult decision to make. I highly agree with you that it is an opportunity for beekeepers to get a helping hand from a source with deep pockets and a long-term commitment to agriculture.
Besides my research, I am continuing to educate beekeepers as to what RNAi is all about and am starting to train them in the use of a microscope for monitoring nosema infections. Making progress – but getting beekeepers to change or follow directions is like “herding cats”.
Many thanks for taking this step out of your comfort zone and into the line of fire. Don’t get discouraged by naysayers and those that would cast you into an unfavorable light. I, and many others, know your deep commitment to honey bees and Monsanto could not have hired a better person to help direct their beginning efforts into honey bee research. It’s a win-win situation and beekeepers are going to benefit in the long run by your decision (whether they agree with it now or not).
Stay in touch and if you ever need an outside person to bounce an idea or question off – drop me a line, please. Best wishes on your new career!
Doug
Microbiologist/Molecular Biologist
PS. Just a thought, but RNAi on varroa may not be the way to go. The vector (mosquito, tick, flea,…) is seldom as bad as what it transfers (West Nile, EEE, yellow fever, Lyme disease, Erhlichiosis, plaque,…). The viruses that varroa transfers (especially DWV – Science 336: 1304-1306) may be better targets and RNAi has just the power to shut them down
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Thanks Doug. I kind of grimaced until I got past the third sentence. It’s a new world for sure, but sometimes you have to stretch your neck out of your shell really far to be able to see better or you get it cut off. Cross your fingers.
Another way to think about your PS might be that malaria kills you; mosquitoes don’t, but without the mosquitoes malaria gets nowhere. Actually, we are going to have the scientists look at both Varroa and honey bee viruses as the prime honey bee health issues for RNA possible control. Cross your fingers again.
Thanks for the words of encouragement Doug.
Q Break Out the Hat and Sunscreen
When a person opens up a hive and exposes the frames to sunlight, is the sunlight harmful to the eggs?
Thanks
Ben
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Hello Ben. Sure UV can harm cells and tissues. You ever get sunburn? Same thing could happen with honey bee eggs if you placed them in direct sunlight for an extended period of time. But in the process of checking a colony or removing a frame to check on egg laying patterns, the exposure would be minimal and not a big deal. Getting direct sunlight down into the bottom of a honey bee cell that is already built at an angle is difficult for the many minutes you would need to damage the protected egg.
The Classroom September 2012
by Jerry Hayes
Q Another Mystery?I had an unusual occurrence last month. I installed several new packages last month and after several weeks I checked on them. All were looking good except one - it was dead. The inner cover was loaded with dead bees. I've never experienced this before, wondering if they were driven out by ants, or another pest. But really, I have no idea what would have happened. Just thought I'd ask to see if you ever heard of this before?
Thanks,
Dale
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Let me run through the usual list of suspects. You had feed on them? Where was the feed placed? The queen was released? They were on drawn comb or foundation? All the other packages were treated exactly the same way? They could get out and fly, there were no entrance restrictions? Weather was OK—no really cold nights or freezing temps? Let me know so we can make a reasoned guess.
DALE RESPONDS
Thanks for the thoughts - let's see. They were installed in a single brood box, with sugar syrup over the inner cover sitting on two small pieces of wood for clearance, with a pollen patty inside the brood chamber. The queen was direct released and the bees had drawn comb. All other packages were treated identically. The weather was mild, no freezing nights.
JERRY ANSWERS
So, can I suppose that the queen died? If she had lived and she had drawn comb, she would have been on the comb laying and all of the other bees would have been there with her. What do you think?
DALE RESPONDS
Yes, the queen died along with all the others. I think it was a mass die off, but from what I do not know. I've never experienced anything like it. Several years back I installed a package on a cold Saturday morning around 38 degrees, and they did fine, so I don't think the cold did them in. Who knows? Anyway, your columns are the best and you help beekeepers in more ways than you know. Keep up the good fight!
JERRY RESPONDS
It is peculiar Paul to have them all die en-masse like that either quickly or prolonged. Something may have been repellent to them in or on the comb or on the wood. Since your other colonies were fine, we can rule out pesticides. Also, it is too quick of a die-off to have been from disease or pests and you probably would have noticed symptoms anyway. One possibility is that the queen either died or stopped laying eggs and the colony simply died out with the stragglers migrating to the nearest thriving colony. Hang in there. If it were easy and there was an instruction book that if you followed it you would be successful 100% of the time, it would be boring and most likely we would not be having this discussion. Thank you for the compliment, but we are all in this together and that is a good thing.
Q Dale Has Another Question
I wanted to run a thought past you before I put this unresolved issue of dead bees to bed. Would putting the newly installed package in a brood box with screened bottom board on top of 2 treated 4x4's cause all the bees to migrate up into the inner cover because of the fumes and chemicals given off from the treated wood? It's my last gasp at trying to figure this out. Have a pleasant weekend.
Sincerely,
Dale Paulson
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I hadn’t even thought of that one. But, the biggest concern is that some wood is treated now with pesticides in place of the heavy metals to kill termites and other wood-eating organisms. It could have been the pesticides or the solvent mixed with it that evaporated (off-gassed) and came up through the screened bottom to drive the colony away and die. If this were the only colony on those stands, that would be the clincher. Good thinking Paul.
DALE RESPONDS—MYSTERY SOLVED?
Yes, that hive was the only one on treated wood under the hive stand. I thought it most unusual to have the majority of dead bees on top of the inner cover. But it makes sense now. It's a high price to pay for this kind wisdom, but they are only mistakes if you make them twice. Thanks Jerry!
JERRY RESPONDS
Good investigation Dale. You looked at and thought of all the variables. Sorry for the outcome, but good deductive reasoning.
Q Combine?
Thanks for the service you provide beekeepers, especially new ones like myself.
I live in central Virginia and have finally succeeded in overwintering two of my four hives from last fall. I discovered two of my hives dead when I was able to check them in mid-February. It appeared they froze as there was plenty of honey and thousands of dead bees on the bottom board. One of the surviving hives is down to about two frames of bees. I was able to easily find the queen, but no brood. I suspect the few remaining bees are not capable of keeping brood warm. The second surviving hive is full of bees and brood. The top box has brood on both sides of 5 frames and a lesser amount in the bottom box. The queen was in the bottom box today. My question is this: Would you recommend I combine the top box from the strong hive with the weak hive using the newspaper method assuming, of course, that I leave the queen in the bottom box? This would give me two hives of approximately equal strength with about six weeks to go to the main honey flow. I think this may also decrease the chances of the strong hive of swarming. Your thoughts or advice are greatly appreciated.
Or leave well enough alone!
Thanks,
Richard Wilson
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Richard, thanks for the compliment, but it is only fun because I like honey bees and their keepers. With the weird winter, you actually did well only having 50% loss. Your method of splitting the strong hive and giving it the population and brood from the top hive body is certainly a choice. However, in any solution, including the possibilities listed below, you must be certain that the queen in the weak hive is a good layer. If you do not notice a quick turn-around in the weak hive with lots of eggs and larvae within the first few weeks, then you definitely need to replace the queen.
Here are some other choices. I am sure you already have thought about the various combinations. These are the ones I thought of:
1. Combine the strong hive with a weak one you now have.
A. Will the weak hive "recover" and become strong and the strong hive continue to build up and function well?
B. Will the weak hive not "recover" and stay weak and the strong hive continue to build up well?
C. Will the weak hive stay weak and the strong hive stay weak now too since population has been taken away and it may not recover?
2. Leave things as they are and—
A. The strong hive stays strong and stores 200 lbs. of honey.
B. The weak hive finally recovers and builds up to store 50lbs of honey for next winter.
C. The weak hive dies.
That is why it is fun to be a beekeeper. It is gambling excitement. It is cheaper than going to Las Vegas….sometimes.
Another technique you may want to try is to leave the strong hive alone internally, but move it to switch places with the weak hive. The weak hive gets a boost from the strong colony's field force and the strong hive is only impacted short term. If the weak hive doesn't show recovery, then you haven't goofed up the strong hive terribly. What do you think?
RICHARD RESPONDS
Gerald, it’s a lot more fun when you are confident you are not messing up big time. That sure made sense and was easy. Big improvement in hive population.
Q Humidity and a Sweet Deal
Here in Northeast Wisconsin it was exceptionally hot and humid this past July. This seemed to impact the amount of capped honey in the hives. Because the air was already highly saturated with moisture, even through the evening, the bees seemed to have difficulty getting the moisture reduced down to the required 18% before they could cap it. Without a working dehumidifier, they seemed to bring in less nectar. This leads me to the question: How do bees do it in the Southern States where the temperature and the humidity are higher for longer periods?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but when I explain that honey is a simple sugar vs. the processed cane and beet sugars; the body is able to break down and incorporate honey into the blood stream, without having to sacrifice any proteins from within. This is not so with processed sugars, as they deprive the body of those proteins. Honey is a simple sugar, because the bees break it down for us, using the enzymes in their honey stomach. I'm trying not to get too technical, but provide an adequate response.
Thank you,
Ken
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Good questions Ken. As per temperature and humidity, remember that the states in the Deep South are not regions with temperate climates such as Wisconsin. Florida does not have a winter like you. Certainly they have cold snaps, but being a lot closer to the equator and surrounded by water, have mild temperatures in the 70-80's in November and December with spring coming in January in North Florida. Because of this, the plants in a southern environment are not hurrying up to sprout, bloom and reproduce in a few months. They can take their time, if you will, and are not in a “oh my gosh” winter is coming rush, so nectar dribbles in. There are a few flushes of things early and late, but summer is really hot and dry and most flowers stop blooming. Southern summer for honey bees is a down time generally where populations actually drop because resources, pollen and nectar are in short supply. Not a lot of honey is being capped. That situation and circumstance is a bit different than in the northern tier of states. In some southern states, excessive moisture in capped honey is a fact of life and beekeepers routinely heat the honey to drive off a point or two of moisture or blend this honey with lower moisture honey.
Regarding your second question, honey is pre-digested if you will. The complex sugars have been "inverted" and made molecularly simpler. Our bodies require fewer B-vitamins to convert these simple sugars into energy. We don't use proteins; we use vitamins to change the carbohydrates into energy. The fewer B-vitamins used to convert a complex sugar into energy, the more we have for other cellular energy needs. Let me know if this makes sense.
Q Early Blooms and Africanized Bees
Like most ABJ readers, I have learned a lot from your column in the 10 years I've been a beekeeper. Here are my questions. The first one arose this year. I'm in central Illinois and due to the mild winter and dry spring everything, including the sweet clover, is blooming about a month early. When that happens, does sweet clover still bloom about the same overall length of time as in a "normal" year, or will it be an extra-long bloom time, or a combination of both? I realize in nature there are many factors at play, but generally what does the DNA of the sweet clover tell it to do--bloom for a specific length of time, or bloom until some other factor (weather, length of days, etc.) causes it to stop?
Question #2 is something that I have wondered about from time to time and often thought that if I ever sent you a question about something else, I would tack this on as a "bonus". Has there been a study done as to why the African Honey Bee (AHB) has not been a problem in Southern Europe or the Mideast? It was introduced to our continent only a few decades ago and has managed to spread to almost everywhere the climate allows. I realize there is this thing in northern Africa called the Sahara that may form an AHB barrier, but there is also the fertile Nile basin that makes its way north to the Mediterranean area. In addition, I understand that the AHB problem in Florida came from swarms that were stowaways on ships that came north from South America. It is really interesting to me that in all of the sea trade that has been going on in Europe and Africa for hundreds, if not thousands of years, a swarm here and there didn’t make the journey north. It’s not that I am wishing our bad fortune on Europe. And having this question answered or not probably won’t affect my hobby beekeeping. I just wondered if anybody else had ever wondered?
Thanks and blessings,
Pat Sheets
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Thank you Pat for the kind words, but I learn all the time from the really great questions I get. We are all in this together. Plants that are genetically adapted to temperate climates, places with defined spring, summer, fall and winter, are designed to flower, get pollinated and produce seed as quickly as possible because winter is coming. This is similar to honey bees, which are temperately adapted insects that with day lengthening and warmer temperatures, the queen starts laying and the colony grows as fast as possible in order to reproduce (swarming) and then store as much honey as possible because winter is coming.
Within certain limits this flourish of growth and reproduction is genetically set and then it is all over with. There is some genetic variability which may produce some additional blooms, but the rush is over. For instance, there is some sweet clover that has been introduced in Florida, which is seen every spring in January/February, and then it is over. It is programmed, just like your computer, but not with 0's and 1's, but with amino acids in genes. Certainly, seasonal temperature and moisture variations also play a role in the length of flower bloom as well.
AHB!
Question #2
Scientists now believe that all honey bees originated in Africa. There are several different races and strains of honey bees in Africa. Not all are super-defensive like the ones that survived making the trip to Brazil in the late 1950's. This was one of the poorest planned importations of anything plant, animal, or insects. Apis mellifera scutellata (the honey bees we call African Honey Bees) became one of the most successful insects ever by occupying most of South America, Central America, Mexico and even entering the southern US in about 50 years, with little help from man deliberately moving them around.
The honey bees in Europe and everything in-between came from Africa originally. All of the honey bees, as they went north, adapted to climate, floral sources, seasonality etc., over 10's of thousands of years. The ones that made it to what we call Northern Europe had to figure out how to store many pounds of honey to make it through a cold, long winter in countries like Germany, Poland, Russia, Ukraine and all of the other temperate areas with a distinct spring, summer, fall and winter, which didn't exist in the Africa they originated in. African honey bees were actually imported to parts of Europe in the past, but they never proliferated and eventually died out due to long, cold winters.
Winter, a real winter, is the great equalizer for a tropical insect. Everybody has summer, but when winter comes with no resources and cold temperatures, clustering is not an automatic response to cold and with lots of seasonally adapted honey bees already occupying the landscape and whose genetics overwhelm yours if mating occurs, you don't have much of a chance. So, everything was in equilibrium until modern transportation and poor decisions took place that allowed a tropically adapted insect in one part of the world to come to the tropical locations in this other part of the world, in the Americas, where it was never found before. Scutellata is an invasive and sometimes dangerous race of honey bees, but in areas where it has migrated, beekeepers have and will learn to work with it and possibly breed out undesirable characteristics.
African honey bees have been found in Europe, but there are the limiting features of climate, genetic dilution and just like in the US, many beekeepers will not tolerate a grumpy hive that may take the fun out of beekeeping, hurt a neighbor or possibly kill the dog down the street. AHB have been found in Italy, but have been snuffed out repeatedly by the weather which is pleasant, but certainly not tropical or subtropical like Florida or Texas with vast spaces of uninhabited land. In these European locations, where beekeeping is more intense, honey bee mating competition and beekeeper selection play a vital role in the culling of unsuitable honey bee races.
Q Wax Moth Diet
Jerry, I have been reading the conversation on wax moths in the ABJ. It is my understanding that wax moths actually do not feed on the wax, but rather need pollen to flourish. For the past ten years or so I have extracted my supers and then returned them to the bee yard to be cleaned of honey and pollen. After a few days the bees are finished with them. I then stack them near my hives, protect them from mice and rats and rain by keeping entrances small and having tops that mostly fit. I have not had moth problems for years in stored supers. I know moths are in the area because I see them and have to clean them out of weak hives.
Bill Weinerth
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You are right Bill; there is not much nutrition in pure beeswax. They need beebread, or larval skins etc. for enough protein to grow to adulthood and reproduce. If you store honey supers that are only honey supers and never had brood or much pollen in the combs, wax moths can get started eating through beeswax comb, but there is no nutrition to carry them through all the life stages and they simply die very early and small from starvation doing little damage.
Keeping your honey supers completely free of brood and stored pollen is a difficult task, however. And, wax moth larvae don’t require a lot food in order to gain a foothold in stored supers, so be careful!
Q Adding Other Ingredients to Creamed Honey
I have a question about my creamed honey. I start by heating my honey to 140 degrees. Then, I let it cool to 95 degrees and add my starter and dried, crushed jalapenos. After it sets up, it seems that the jalapenos have rehydrated somewhat. Should I be concerned about microorganisms growing in it (especially if it almost liquefies from being set out in the heat)? Should I tell others to refrigerate it? I know honey by itself is fine, but I was just wondering about the jalapenos. Thank you for your time.
Nick
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I am glad you are experimenting with creamed honey and value-added ingredients. Yes, you do have to be careful of various organisms like bacteria, molds and fungus using the dried fruit, vegetables or even jalapenos in creamed honey when they are re-hydrated even just a little. Moisture + food source+ other life forms = a yucky experience. Keeping the final creamed honey product refrigerated, when incorporating other foods, even nuts that have been irradiated to kill everything, is a good idea. Or, using just flavorings will give you some product safety and wiggle room. That is why you do not see these kinds of combinations too often as bacteria, mold, and fungus growth are hard to control unless lots of preservatives or freezing or refrigeration are not incorporated. Have fun with this, but be careful as food poisoning is not a great way to spend a couple of days.
NICK RESPONDS
Thanks for the reply. I agree, food poisoning does not sound fun. But, I've always thought that honey was a natural preservative, is that correct? If it is not safe to use powders with honey (the honey being the preservative), I think I will just forget the powders and go with an Ethyl Alcohol-based extract instead. Do you think that would be a safer route? Does Pure Honey + Ethyl Alcohol = Safe? Are you aware of any studies on this? I would like to stay away from artificial flavorings & use all natural ones instead. Again, thank you for your time.
Nick
JERRY RESPONDS
Yes, honey is a super-saturated sugar solution and thus hygroscopic, meaning it is of a low moisture level (generally 18% or below), but attracts moisture. Let’s say a bacterium gets in the honey. The honey will suck out the moisture in the organism and kill it. And, as the sugar breaks down into other compounds in this acidic environment, it produces small amounts of hydrogen peroxide, an antiseptic as you know. This is all good if the honey is in contact with an organism. What happens to the mold, fungus, and bacteria, etc. that are on the inside of the little piece of jalapeno or dried apricot or raisin that has been partially re-hydrated and not in contact with this honey below 18% moisture? Well they start to grow because they have what they need to grow and reproduce. And honey is the same way. Increase its moisture above 18% and the organisms in it will start to grow and fermentation may begin and it isn’t honey any longer.
It depends on how much ethyl alcohol there is, of course, and whether you have created an alcoholic beverage or not. I would think that the small amounts in an extract are okay.
Q EFB and Queens
Jerry, I recently grafted a batch of queens and have them in a strong cell builder colony. When I went to check on their progress, I noticed a few sick larvae in the brood nest. It's not American Foulbrood, but may be European Foulbrood. The queen larvae appear to be developing normally. Whatever it is, it doesn't appear to be a severe infection. Question is, could I be spreading disease spores by distributing these new queens to other colonies, or, since the queen larvae appear healthy, is it safe to use these new queens to requeen? By the way, congratulations on your new job.
Steve
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Steve, let’s assume that it is a disease and you have a boomer cell builder, so no larva is being ignored. (Next time just use capped brood and a closed cell builder in a cool dark place with lots of food for 48 hours before transferring to a finisher colony.) But, I digress. If it is a “disease”, regardless of what kind, I would be concerned that the quality of the virgins being produced would be compromised. I would start over just to be on the safe side and be sure to use new capped brood and a different cell builder that has been closely inspected. Also, make sure that the bees that are shaken into it all come from “clean” colonies.
Q Do Honey Bees Attend College?
I am nearing the end of my junior year in high school. I currently raise my own hives and sell the honey for a little extra money. I would like to go to college to learn more about honey bees. Could you recommend some colleges that would have good programs for me to study and work with honey bees?
Thanks,
Caleb Hemphill
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Caleb, that is a great and exciting question for an old guy like me to think about someone who is junior in high school who is actually thinking about this and planning ahead. Good job. The awkward part about this is that I am going to leave someone and their program out and upset them. There are several great programs, but I will only give you a few that I know about really well.1) Dr. Jamie Ellis, Univ. of Florida. I was able to work and collaborate with Dr. Ellis and the students in his lab the last 6 years or so. A first-class professor, he has built an impressive program and is committed to his students and their growth. 2) Dr. Marla Spivak, Univ. of Minnesota. Internationally known, MacArthur Grant recipient with an outstanding program and a great staff headed by Gary Reuter. 3) Dr. Greg Hunt, Purdue. If you like genomics, and field work and honey bee health inputs, this is a solid program.
Another program you might want to investigate is the unique One-year Commercial Beekeeping Certificate program from Fairview College in Fairview, Alberta. Phone 1-888-999-7882.
Keep me in the loop Caleb. I would contact the above now and see what you can learn. If your primary goal is to become a good commercial beekeeper, another good school is the School of Hard Knocks. Go to work for several different successful beekeepers and queen breeders. You will learn more in a year than you ever thought possible. Then, start out small and gradually increase in size until you have reached your goal. Don’t go into debt trying to get big fast.
Q Momma Mia!
Dear Jerry, I've been a beekeeper for 5 years in northern Italy. I have 15 hives. This spring has been cool and rainy, but 2 days ago the weather changed to sunny and quite warm. We are in the middle of our first big nectar flow (acacia). Yesterday my bees did a strange thing, and I wonder if you could try to explain why.
Two days ago, late in the afternoon, I noticed a huge swarm in my bee yard, in an oak tree, about 25 feet up. I hadn't seen it leave any hive, so I didn't know from which one it had come. I was not going to attempt climbing so high, but I put a prepared swarm box on the ground underneath it.
Next day, yesterday, the swarm was still there, and at about 9:30 a.m. I saw another swarm issue from my "green hive". My more experienced beekeeper neighbor arrived and climbed up the oak tree and got the gigantic swarm! He carried the branch down the ladder, put the swarm in the swarm box, and it looked like the bees were going in. Meanwhile, the "green hive" swarm, medium sized, had settled about 15 feet up, in a cherry tree. Within 30 minutes most of the first, huge swarm had returned to its high up place in the oak. About two and a half frames full of bees remained in the swarm box. Over the next three hours I watched the huge swarm move from the oak to another oak next to it, and then to a persimmon tree nearby, about 10 feet up, and then they joined the "green hive" swarm in the cherry tree, to make one very huge bunch of bees. I waited about an hour and then cut the cherry branch and put the huge swarm in a double super (Dadant style) with regular wax frames, on top of the "green hive", with a queen excluder between the super on the green hive and the swarm double super.
It looked like the bees were staying, so I went away. About an hour later, I saw that some of the bees had stayed (about 3 frames worth), but the rest had returned to the persimmon branch! By then it was around 7 p.m. I prepared another swarm box and got the swarm down. This time it looked like all the bees were staying in the box. At about 9 pm, as the sun was setting, I went back out to close the swarm box and saw that 3 or 4 frames of bees were still in the box, but the rest (maybe half of them) were swarming back to the "green hive"!
I think there must have been several new queens that had swarmed at the same time, but why did they all stay together, and keep changing their position? Why did the last group return to its original hive?
Kind Regards, and thank you from,
Suzanne
Varese, Italy
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Suzanne, I would agree with you that multiple “virgin” queens were produced from a large colony during the confinement when it was cool and rainy. It is unusual for potentially so many “virgin” queens to emerge independently without killing each other, but it can happen and I think it did with yours. Only once have I've seen a total of eight virgin queens in one reproductive swarm. This swarm acted in a similar fashion to yours.
Because virgin queens do not have the pheromone signature of a mated queen that would normally be in the prime or first swarm, the swarming impulse continues, but with some confusion as the swarm leaves but a “mated” queen that can ensure survival is not there. So, the swarm moves around, some will stay in a place or on limb with a virgin or two, some will move a short distance away with a virgin or two and some will stay in a hive as yours did and a portion will move out and go back to the original hive. They are looking for genetic survival, which requires a mated queen and they do not have that important requirement, so it is not a normal swarm situation. You have seen something that not many beekeepers get to experience. While the situation has been frustrating for you, consider the beekeeping experience. And you did it in beautiful northern Italy!
SUZANNE FOLLOW-UP
Thank you, Jerry. Yesterday, the day after they swarmed back into the "green hive", about 3 p.m., I watched them swarm back out of it again. Some of them settled in a persimmon tree (not the same one as yesterday, though), but most of them settled in the same cherry tree. After a couple hours they were all in the cherry tree. I climbed up and cut the branch around 7 p.m., and put it in a new empty hive with 7 frames wax and a little honey at the bottom. I saw a queen in a bunch on the ground and put her into the hive. Some bees returned immediately to the cherry tree. About 9:15 p.m. I went out to check, and there were still some bees in the cherry tree, but a lot in the hive and a lot still on the cut branch on top of the hive. They were inactive so I did not disturb them. Today, by early afternoon, there was again a large bunch on the cherry tree, but 3 frames worth had settled into the new hive. Later I had to go away for an hour, and when I returned, at 4:15, the large swarm was gone! I have no idea where they went. Anyway, I've got three new swarms; two of them pretty small, so I'll probably put those two together in the next few days. Thank you very much for your comments and insight!
Suzanne
JERRY FOLLOW-UP
Yes, multiple ersatz queens and maybe a mated one in the mix someplace. Well, you got some of them back and combining the small ones is a good idea. Thanks for sharing.
Q Bees Really Can Make Bread
I always turn to your page about the first. Very informative. My sister and I have 3 colonies here in northern Idaho and they all came through last winter, thankfully. My question has to do with an odor I am noticing in one of my hives. It is noticeable just standing nearby. It is a yeasty odor. Quite a bit like when bread is rising. I went clear through the colony yesterday and the smell was very noticeable. No sign of chalkbrood anywhere, no foamy honey, lots of brood, good laying pattern, etc. There was a lot of burr comb under the top frames and they were full of drone comb. I cut them out and found some mites (will start powdered sugar treatments).
What I did notice was a massive amount of pollen in the cells. More than I normally see. This seemed to be a big, early pollen year and the bees had just gone nuts after it. Could that be the source of the odor? I understand that pollen is fermented as bee bread. I thought maybe the drone larvae, etc. was the source, but it doesn't seem to be when I check out the bucket it went into. My Dad was a beekeeper and I want to carry on the tradition. I enjoy working with the bees and they gave us a nice amount of honey on their first year. I really notice odors and the smell of a hive is a familiar one - just don't remember this one!
Thank-you,
Rachel Holdeman
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Congratulations on you and your sister continuing a family tradition that helps us all. I don't know if your part of the world had the semi mild winter and early spring like many parts of the US experienced, but events like this do influence what blooms and when. So, you get these unique and interesting mixtures of blooming plants, nectar and pollen. The large amount of pollen that is going to be converted to beebread and most likely large amount of mixed multi-floral plant nectar (that must go through a conversion process and a decrease in water on its way to becoming this vintage honey) presents a special spring flower bouquet of odors and olfactory jolt as they emit, evaporate, and exude from the hive. Enjoy as this will not happen again in just this way. This is one of the many exciting human, honey bee, and plant joint collaborations that very few people can say they are touched by. And, you will remember the early honey of 2012 as it floods your memories of that time and place. Have a Great Year.
The Classroom August 2012
by Jerry Hayes
Q DO ANTEATERS MAKE GOOD PETS?
We met last year in Decatur at the North Alabama Beekeeping Symposium. I enjoy reading 'The Classroom' every month. With our mild winter in Alabama, the ant population is tremendous this year, so my question is that of ant control. We garden in the same general area as our apiary and the ants are everywhere! Unfortunately, they are all in the raised garden beds as well. We simply cannot be in the apiary or garden without the risk of standing on an ant pile or on a trail of them. I was wondering if you could recommend anything environmentally friendly to kill, force them out and deter them from this entire area that would be safe for the bees and also safe for our garden/food? I realize I might need to use different types of control, but I ultimately want our bees and food safe without the risk of getting ants all over me. Any advice you have would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks and kind regards,
Teresa
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Good Morning Teresa. How close are you to the zoo to see if you can rent or lease an anteater? I don’t think you need a permit:) Great question Teresa. How do you protect the environment, your honey bees, and lots of other insects and still kill the ants? You want something targeted and focused and not a broad spectrum spray or dust. I think you want granular bait that can be put very close if not on the mounds themselves. There are several of these “ant baits” available. The ants perceive these baits as food, take them into the colony and they kill the colony or kill or sterilize the ant queen. Most times they are pretty effective for those targeted ant colonies. It requires a minimum of chemical and they are localized to an area or a nest.
Certainly this is not a perfect solution, but you have a problem and it will just get worse. Another challenge is if there are ant colonies around you and they are not being treated or treated simultaneously, then when you kill yours, these other colonies see an opening to expand their territory directly or genetically by starting a new nest in the void you have created in your yard. I do not know of any 100% effective repellents or products that will not only kill ants, but lots of other things if you spray or dust. I vote for an ant bait. Let me know what you decide.
TERESA REPLIES:
Thanks Jerry. Anteater...I might need a couple of those! I wonder if any are for sale on Craig’s list (ha ha!). I think trying the bait is definitely worth a try. I will let you know how things progress--or not.
Thanks again!
Teresa
Q WHAT?
I have a couple of medium supers from last year that are full of capped over honey. I have heard that it is not good to uncap it and use if for human consumption. Why not? And what should I do with it now?
Thank you,
Mark Gosswiller
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Mark, I think somebody is pulling your leg. Honey bee capped honey in a super under your care and control is infinitely fresher than any alternative. Certainly if it was stored in or around toxic chemicals/pesticides or wax moth control products or …. other chemicals, it should not be used for human consumption. If the supers were around other not properly stored chemicals or chemicals in use, then it is mostly likely not great for the bees either. If you wouldn’t feed it to them, I wouldn’t eat it either. But if not and it has not granulated in the comb, it should be pretty good. Your call Mark.
Q SHUFFLING SUPERS
Jerry, I have two packages which I put into two mediums each in late March. With both packages the top super only had foundation. The bottom ones had half the frames with foundation and the other half drawn comb. Each package now has capped honey in seven or eight frames in the top super and the bottoms are about sixty percent full of brood, pollen, and honey. I want to add another medium to each of them. If I add it on top, will the queen go above the capped honey to lay or do I need to add the third medium on the bottom?
Thanks,
Eddie White
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Good Morning Eddie. I vote to put the next medium to use as part of the brood chamber on the bottom. The USDA did some research years ago that showed that if all of the empty supers that the beekeeper thought he would need over the course of a season were put on all at once in early spring, the colony would collect and store about 10% more honey. Remember, the European genetically based honey bees we use are always preparing for winter, so they want to collect as much honey as possible. You will need approx. 4-5 mediums to make up a minimum volume for brood rearing and honey storage so they can make it through the next significant winter you have. I think you want to provide as much room for the queen to lay and build up a colony with enough population to be a real beehive. What you have now is a strong nuc and that won’t get you much at the end of the day. Big strong colonies, collect more nectar, are able to withstand varroa, small hive beetles, and pathogens more consistently than smaller colonies. Don’t be too anxious and short change your colonies with space and hive volume.
Q NO MYSTERY HERE
I sold two 3-year old Italian colonies to a new beekeeper this spring. Both were requeened last fall, treated for mites, fed candy late winter/spring. Both colonies came out healthy in the spring. Both were moved 30 miles away to a farming/woodland area and set up on an old silo concrete slab to discourage small hive beetles. Two weeks later there were thousands of dead bees all over the slab and hundreds of quivering, shaking, disoriented bees in the mix. Still both hives seemed very busy with workers coming and going.
The new owner met with a state bee inspector who thinks the hives have become infected with "Israeli" (something or other) virus. Something new he was told. What are your thoughts? We're both anxious to know what's going on.
Thanks,
Mike from Southern Illinois
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Mike, this is some kind of toxin exposure. Honey Bees can forage efficiently in a 2-3 mile radius of their colony and can be exposed to all sorts of chemicals. They are like flying dust mops and get into all sorts of things, both good and bad, as they forage for resources. Whether it was from chemical residues absorbed into the concrete from material stored there in the past, chemicals from varroacides, lawn maintenance insecticides or agricultural insecticide exposure is hard to tell. I would not put any honey bees in an agricultural setting early in spring when crops are being planted and be aware and careful in suburbia with all the lawn care stuff, golf course product use, etc. Wait and move them to some of these locations later when the early flush of spraying is over and you will be in better shape.
Q DOUBLE DUTY
Some folks in Texas are using Small Hive Beetle traps to trap varroa mites. What are your thoughts on the practice? As always, your advice is appreciated.
Ozzy's Fresno Honey
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Ozzy, female varroa mites, as they move around in a colony in preparation to enter a cell with developing larvae to lay eggs and start the cycle all over again, get bumped around and lose their grip on the worker bee they are riding on or in the process of bees grooming each other. Some varroa can be dislodged, groomed off and removed and sometimes varroa just are uncoordinated and fall off. If they fall on a solid bottom board, they pick themselves up and dust themselves off and simply jump on another bee going back in or they walk across the solid bottom board and up the sides until they can catch a ride back in. Use a screened bottom board and have these fallen mites go through and hit the ground outside. This makes it very tough for them to get back inside the colony and reproduce. The use of a small hive beetle (SHB) bottom trap, sometimes called a “fall” trap because pests like SHB “fall” into it, can help with varroa removal as well. These same fallen varroa can fall into the SHB bottom trap and, assuming there is vegetable oil, soapy water or something similar in it, will be killed as well. Good idea.
Q BULLY BEES
Jerry…….I sure do enjoy the Classroom every month. It’s a real help to all of us who are fairly new to beekeeping. Keep up the good work! Here’s my question….a couple of weeks ago I installed three new nucs and have noticed very aggressive behavior by these bees. I have had colonies in the past that I could walk right up to the entrance unmolested, but these are waiting to nail me at 25 yards. What’s causing this and what can I do about it? It’s hard to even work in my garden without worrying about an attack. These nucs were from western North Carolina. I’m not thinking they’re Africanized.
Thanks for your help!
Drew Hines
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Drew, have you looked in the colonies and do they have comb drawn out and/or filled the comb you provided with brood? Are they queenless? Are all three nucs equally grumpy? And, were the nucs from Western North Carolina actually raised there and the queens were raised there as well? Sorry for all the questions, but I’m just trying to get some perspective. Some honey bees are just grumpy, especially if the queen genetics or the drone’s genetics come from interesting crosses. If the person selling the nucs bought queens for the nucs from elsewhere, this could be a factor. In addition, loss of the queens at some point can make the colonies grumpy, along with lack of nectar sources, etc. Tell me about your queen situation first--where they came from and if they are still in your nucs.
DREW REPLIES:
Thanks Jerry for your prompt reply. I intend to go back into the hives and check the queens this weekend. You may have hit the nail on the head. I really appreciate it. Please keep up the good work. I love the magazine!
Drew
Q GOOD OR BAD?
I have some hive bodies that have a lot of sugar in them where the bees died or something happened to them. Can I wash them out with water? Will they be all right to use?
Thank you
Maynard
It would be really good to know or have a reasonable guess of what they died from Maynard. If it was varroa or tracheal mites, you can reuse the hive bodies. If it was American foulbrood, then you definitely do not want to reuse the frames in hive bodies. And, then there is all sorts of stuff in between that could go either way like chalkbrood, viruses or small hive beetles, etc. What do you think?
MAYNARD REPLIES:
Some of them froze when the weather kept changing. Some starved. We went ahead & washed them all with water and now are drying them. I know there wasn't foulbrood, chalkbrood or small hive beetles.
Thank You
Maynard
JERRY RESPONDS:
Go ahead and use them Maynard. The bees will appreciate the already drawn combs and extra sugar resources.
Q FINDING THE QUEEN
Just a simple question for the beekeeper’s best friend. For someone like me, who has a hard time finding the queen in a hive, can I use a honey-harvesting product such as Bee Dunn or Bee Quick to remove the bees from the upper brood box and then place a queen excluder between the hive bodies? Will either of these products harm the brood?
Thanks,
Danny
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Hi Danny. Open brood can always be negatively affected by vapors, or off gassing of products like the two you mention if they are used for too long or in too high a concentration. Or, if they are used when it is too hot or humid, along with the lack of care and protection of the nurse bees that are there to bring along the next generation of the colony. The chances of you killing all the open brood are probably slim, but still is a possibility.
Why don’t you consider going ahead and placing your queen excluder between the two boxes and coming back in three days to see which box has eggs in it. A newly laid egg remains an egg for three days before it hatches into a larva. Putting the queen excluder between the boxes confines the queen in one of the brood boxes. The brood box that does not now have a queen will just have developing larvae in it after 3 days minimum, but no eggs. You can wait a few more days if you need to as it won’t hurt. The box with the queen will now have all the eggs, which tells you where she is. It takes a few days to make this happen, but it is reliable and doesn’t cause mass disruption of the colony. What do you think? Let me know what your plan is.
DANNY REPLIES:
I think I will try the method you suggested. I will have to wait about 5 days until the eggs become larvae. I can't find the queen most of the time and I can't see the eggs. I hope with experience it will become easier to find the queen. Thanks for all the great advice.
JERRY FOLLOWS UP:
Lots of folks have trouble finding the queen and even more trouble in seeing eggs. So, don’t feel like the Lone Ranger, go to Wal-Mart and buy a magnifying glass or those inexpensive magnifying glasses you can wear like reading glasses. People use them all the time to see eggs. Put your vanity aside and go get some. We beekeepers look a bit peculiar anyway in our bee suits and holding a can that has smoke coming out of it. Glasses might actually help our looks:)
Q FERMENTED IS DIFFERENT
I am a new beekeeper and recently came across an old issue of ABJ (Feb 2011). On pages 130-131 in answer to a question regarding pollen substitute, you mention making my own bee food by “using the basic ingredients sold to beekeepers as pollen supplements and soy yogurt.” Many of the pollen substitute recipes I have located include soy flour as one of the ingredients. Yet in your article you say that bees are not designed to successfully digest soy flour. I am confused. Do I still use soy flour as one of the ingredients and just add soy yogurt, or should I substitute soy yogurt for the soy flour. Can you also suggest the proper quantities of each? Thank you for your help.
Cordially,
Mike Wright
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Mike, I have attached the paper that this came from of a few years ago for your review. The basic concept is that honey bees normally eat a 'fermented' diet made from pollen inoculated by the bee with lots of bacteria, fungi and yeasts. They do this to release the nutrients in the pollen, preserve it and have it act as a probiotic in their systems--not unlike you or me eating, yogurt, kefir or natural cheese, etc.
Dr. Amanda Ellis, a Florida bee researcher, and I had the idea that if honey bees naturally make and consume a fermented diet, let's see what happens when we try to make one for them. So, we used the normal soy flour substitute diet formulation and added soy yogurt because it had the organisms in it already to ferment the soy flour in the substitute honey bee diet. I have never thought of myself as a Rocket Scientist, so this was an easy concept for me:)
I think all of the information and the preparations are in the paper for you to follow. The thing that was most interesting was the "debris" scores that showed how much of the regular honey bee available purchased diets are dragged out as trash. I hope this helps. (If anyone would like a copy of this paper just email me.) Thanks. Jerry
MIKE REPLIES:
Thank you so much for the information. This will be of great help to me.
Mike Wright
Q CATNIP ... NOT JUST FOR CATS
I have read that catnip plants are very attractive to honey bees. My wife wants to plant some in the yard. We have three beehives in the backyard. I read that the catnip plant is in the mint family. Will the taste of our honey have a mint flavor? This is something I prefer not to have.
Thanks
Mark Gosswiller
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So, you have a problem with mint flavored honey? I think if you lived next door to a 50-acre mint farm, you might have some mint-flavored honey, but in a backyard with a few catnip plants and three colonies that will dilute this nectar with all the other nectar that is coming in at the same time, the chances of you having any real flavorful mint honey is slim or none if you had any chance at all.
You need to use your head on this Mark. What you need to do is make a big deal about this with your wife. Tell her all the reasons that catnip shouldn’t be planted in your yard. This next part is all about timing Mark--at the very end of your very passionate discussion about why catnip is not a good plant for you or the yard, pause for a few seconds. The pause is important. Then tell her that her happiness is more important to you than any mint honey you may get. And, because you love and support her so much that you’ll even go out and get the plants and dig up the ground and plant them for her. Points Mark, it’s all about points. If you are like most of us husbands, having more points is better than having less:) And, if you are a beekeeper, she may have already spotted you some points!
MARK REPLIES:
Excellent advice! Thank you
The Classroom July 2012
by Jerry Hayes
Q No One Likes Smoke
I have been reading the Classroom and have a question. If a prescribed burn is conducted on a farm where my bees are, will it cause them to abscond or any other problems? I have a contract with The Natural Resources Conservation Service (NRCS) that calls for the burning of 67 acres this year. I have asked my club members and they all say that it will be OK because Oklahoma has lots of fires and they have not lost any bees. I look forward to your answer.
Pete Rogers
New beekeeper (haver?)
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Africanized Bees will abscond at the least stress. And since you are in Oklahoma with African bees and I don't know where yours came from, I just wanted to share that. If your bees are of European descent and they are queen right, they will stay in the hive even if they are consumed by fire. I had 20 colonies burned up in a brush fire a few years ago. They stayed snug in the hive as they went up in flames. Tough to put out a beeswax fire. Smoke doesn't help them, but they will stay put even in heavy smoke. Hopefully they won't be subjected to very much smoke and flames. If you can’t move them, then obviously remove as much combustible material away from your colonies and even mow around them for as wide a margin as possible...yards. And then cross your fingers.
Q Dehydration
Jerry do the bees need water during the winter? If they do, how close does the water need to be? I live in northern New Mexico, Four Corners area.
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Do you need water in winter? I am being facetious, of course. Honey bees use more water for biological reasons during periods of hot weather, just like you need more in July after working in the apiary. And, as a parallel, just like you, when it is cooler and activity of foraging, cleaning, providing food for baby bees, etc. has slackened or stopped, all together they need less. Honey bees in winter get the small amount of water they need from honey which will be generally 18% moisture or a little less. If the bees have lots of warmer flying weather, they can access the outside water sources. They generally locate, ponds, puddles, ditches or the water bucket the beekeeper has provided. If you provide the water, the closest you want it is 10 feet or so. Honey bees can’t communicate distances to ‘resources’ much closer than that. Each individual honey bee has to find it herself at that distance or closer. If it is a bucket, barrel or container, having some pieces of wood or packing peanuts to make a floating raft they can land on and prevent drowning are needed.
Q Cedar Bottom Boards for Wax Moth Control?
My wife puts cedar boards in our closets to guard against moths. Wondering if cedar bottom boards would help be a deterrent against wax moths?
Doug
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This has been a regular question for years, Doug. There isn’t enough concentration of cedar vapors in the bottom boards to deter wax moths when the cedar is new and even less after wood is coated with propolis and wax from the colony trying to reduce the odor. This odor is an irritant and so if they can’t pick it up and remove it or break it up and remove it, they cover it with propolis and solve their problem.
Q A Tisket A Tasket
I have a couple of hives in NY, still in the middle of the learning curve when it comes to keeping bees. This spring, when I checked the hives, I had one where for some reason I had left the screened bottom board on over the winter, but had put a solid bottom board below it. I noticed that along with all the junk that filtered through the screened bottom board and accumulated on the solid board were quite a few little packets of pollen--the bees must drop them and then they're lost through the screen. That's a drawback of a screened bottom that I hadn't considered (I had used them hoping it would decrease mites). Have you found pollen loss to be a problem with screened bottom boards? Thanks very much,
Molly
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Good Morning Molly. Imagine you are a honey bee coming back to the hive with full pollen baskets (corbicula), landing, walking around the inside the colony, being bumped and jostled and then finding the appropriate cell to try to back into and off load these pollen balls into a cell so others can further prepare the pollen for fermentation into beebread. Some falls off in this process and it is just part of honey bee forager life. If this collected pollen is dropped and it is on a solid bottom board, it is just lost. No individual honey bee goes down into the garbage dump and re-collects it. It stays there until eaten by wax moth larvae or dermestid beetles or just rots with all of the other hive detritus. This is not a flaw or a drawback of the screened bottom. This type of thing happens and has happened for millions of years, you just happened to see it. That is why this social insect has so many individuals…for redundancy in all they do. The screened bottom has meant that this colony has been able to eliminate lots of varroa mites that have fallen, as well doing it safely and non-chemically. Keep it on Molly.
Q Varroa Treatments
Got a question I would like answered by an unbiased expert. First, my bees have been untreated for 2 years. I have 18 hives. Two of the eighteen have, at least, a minor infestation of varroa. The most telltale sign is actual mites on the capped drone larvae. Our honey flow has begun and I have supers on all hives. Is there a safe treatment for varroa that can be used while having supers on for the honey flow?
A couple of companies advertise Mite Away Quick Strips, as honey safe, but I would rather hear from a bee man instead of a sales person.
Thank you for your time and as always, love your classroom column. It is the first thing I read in ABJ.
Eddie Webb
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Well, first Eddie there is really no such thing as a minor infestation of varroa. They are growing as your colony is growing as they need larvae and pupae to reproduce on. The fact that you are actually seeing them on drone brood easily means they are on worker brood also. Mite Away Quick Strips (MAQS), which are Formic Acid soaked pads, are registered to be used during a honey flow, but they can be a bit harsh on bees, brood and queens. Not that it may not work, but it is temperature, humidity and colony size dependent, which means it can give excellent results or ugly results.
Apiguard, a thymol gel product registered for varroa control, is not as aggressive as MAQS and requires a longer treatment cycle, but works well. However, it is not registered for application during a honey flow. Thanks for the compliment on the Classroom; we are all in this together.
Q Lesson in Ventilation
I'm a very fortunate person who lives in Northern Virginia. I say fortunate because I am a brand new beekeeper. I joined the "King George Beekeepers Association" and have spent the last 8-weeks in brilliantly orchestrated "newcomers" classes conducted by the association president, Mr. Mike Church. What a tremendous learning adventure. I have learned so much in 2-months. In our classes we discussed the different strains of bees, their nature and habits, bee-hives and their components, plants, diseases and pests. As a brand new beekeeper, I have to say the instruction was first rate, presented by people who truly care about the art and science of beekeeping.
I've been reading your "Classroom" publication for the last 3-months. Although I had never even heard of the American Bee Journal prior to joining the King George group, the members strongly encouraged me to subscribe, and I'm really glad I have done so. Thanks so very much for your great instruction to all beekeepers.
I have a simple question that most likely you have answered in the past. In some photos of wooden hives (the traditional type where supers are stacked upon each other, etc.), I have noticed some hives include a small ventilation hole appearing either somewhere near the bottom of the inner cover, or alternatively in the front side of the inner cover. Other hives have no ventilation holes that I can see.
So, my question is, "Is it important that each of my hives have a ventilation hole at either (or perhaps even a 3rd) location? What purpose do these holes serve? I've seen photos of hives with no vent holes that I can see, and wonder if they work as well or even better than those with the holes? So I'm confused. I've asked other association members for their opinions, but their opinions are all over the map.
Actually, I suspect you've already answered this question in prior magazines, but considered together with the huge amount I have already tried to digest in a short time, I admit to being confused. Thanks so much.
Please keep "The Classroom" in the wonderful Bee Journal. Although I'm new, it is obvious you are doing a fantastic job.
Warmest regards,
Rob Burdsal
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Hello Rob. Aren't honey bees just amazing just to watch? And now you are linking their lives with yours. It will only get better. Consider yourself very lucky that you are in the right place at the right time with a great organization with committed mentors. Let me see if I can properly answer your ventilation hole question. Think about a cold Northern Virginia winter that will be coming sooner than you think. Remember how if you blow your warm moist breath on a cold window pane, the moisture will condense into visible water droplets. That is because in the process of breathing, moisture is exiting from your lungs from metabolism of digesting food that keeps you alive. If your house was completely insulated and hermetically sealed without any ventilation, your house would be a soggy moldy mess just because of you being alive and breathing.
Fast forward to a honey bee hive (house) in winter. Honey bees eat honey that contains on average of 18% moisture. They breathe through lung-like structures called trachea. To balance the water in their bodies, they exhale warmer moist air. But they do not have central heating in the hive like in your house. The cluster may be warm, but the rest of the inside of the hive is the same temperature as outside. When it is really cold out, the warm moist air they are exhaling can condense and freeze inside the hive just as on your window pane. When it warms up outside, it will warm up the hive space and can melt this frozen accumulation and drip/rain cold water on the cluster and raise humidity levels in the hive, which encourages mold, fungus and associated health problems. The holes you are seeing drilled in equipment is an attempt to vent this warm moist air out of the hive in winter. I never liked drilling holes in perfectly good equipment. Look at a bee hive as a chimney. You can prop one corner of the lid up 1/4 inch or so with a pencil-size stick laid on its side and vent the hive in winter that way. Easy and nondestructive. Keep learning and keep enjoying, that is what it is all about.
ROB REPLIES
Jerry, thank you so very, very much for the reply. Finally, I actually understand the concept through your careful explanation. I'm going to follow your advice and simply "shim" the top cover during winter - just a tiny bit, of course.
I look forward to following your column in the Bee Journal and am purchasing your book wherein you've gathered many of your responses to questions like mine. I've got quite a bit to learn, I realize, but it does seem that "Bee People" are keen to help whenever possible. For example, I just spent this past Friday at some hives about an hour from home helping a man "hive" his new bees and queen. A fantastic learning experience for me, especially since this man is very analytical and sequential in his thinking, and I'm totally the opposite as an attorney. I think in the abstract most often.
So, it was a wonderful day and one of the greatest learning experiences I've ever encountered with bees or most anything else. When my bees arrive, I now have a clue about how to install them properly (after waiting several days to enable them to calm down and have a better idea about their queen's scent (or whatever the word is).
Thanks again Jerry. You provide a much needed, and much appreciated service to all of us.
My very warmest regards,
Rob Burdsal
Q OOPS!
A quick question: Over this winter, I stored honey super frames (which were completely drawn out) in a closed crate and dropped in a few moth balls in an effort to ward off and wax moths. I opened the crate this evening and the moth ball smell was naturally pretty intense. I am airing out the frames now, but I am concerned that I really goofed and the wax has been tainted and the smell and possible wax contamination can't simply be "aired out".
Any help is appreciated. Thank you for all the Classroom insight.
Best regards,
Todd
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Beeswax is a chemical sponge for some chemicals, especially fat-soluble ones (beeswax is a fatty acid). There are two chemicals that are available as general 'moth' repellents. One is paradichlorobenzene or PDB, which does not have very much affinity to combine with beeswax and is labeled and approved for use, according to label directions, to treat stored honey comb as a protectant against wax moths. (However, Europeans don’t even use this product due to wax contamination from the PDB.)
The other chemical that kills moths is called naphthalene (moth balls), which is sold in big box stores to use in homes to repel clothes moths in stored human clothing. Naphthalene is absorbed easily by beeswax and is locked into its molecular structure very well. It is toxic and repellent to honey bees of all life stages. Naphthalene cannot be aired out. PDB can be aired out as it is not tightly bound to beeswax and that is why it is labeled for use on stored beeswax comb in the United States.
If you used naphthalene, then you had an oops moment and ruined the comb. Throw it out. If you (hate to sound harsh) had done some reading, asking around or a web search and found the correct product, which is PDB, your combs could be reused in your supers.
TODD REPLIES
This is great information. I will review the contents and follow up. By the way, I will keep reading and learning and asking questions!
All the best,
Todd
JERRY RESPONDS
If you aren't messing up in anything in life, that means you are not engaged, you aren't trying, you are a vegetable. Mess up and learn from your mistakes and then don't do them again—that is the ultimate goal.
TODD REPLIES
As follow up, unfortunately, I had the oops moment and used a product with Naphthalene. Should I dispose of the wooden frames, too? My guess is yes as there is some propolis and a fine wax layer coating the wood. According to your answer, it sounds as if the whole shebang contains the toxin.
Thanks again.
Todd
JERRY RESPONDS
As aggravating and a bit depressing as it is, I would suggest you start out fresh. It is really the only sure alternative. Now you know. It will get better.
Q Here We Go A Vectoring
I would like to know if you are aware of some studies about bees being vectors of diseases in vegetable crops. Just for curiosity.
Best,
Viviana
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As you know insects, like mosquitoes, ticks, fleas, aphids, and psyllids, vector all kinds of ‘things’ to plants, animals and you and me. One would think that honey bees would also vector many things as they travel from flower to flower. But not as many things as one would think. Fire Blight, P. Syringae and M. Mali (fungus) are the only ones I am familiar with. Then, honey bees have been used as vectors in the opposite way to bring good bacteria--that is applied to their furry little bodies, to apples and pear blossoms to discourage Fire Blight. One would think that they may be vectoring other things, but they must not be primary vectors as the literature is pretty sparse on this or we would have all sorts of problems if it were true.
Q Gesundheit!
Thanks for the advice you gave me a while back, about the use of virgin queens and mated queens. I have a new situation and it is giving me a great concern. Never have I started to sneeze during a hive inspection. I currently have the hives in a new spot, between agricultural communities and residential/public areas. The crops are Citrus, Avocado, Blueberry. As for residential plants, there are over 50 different flowering ornamentals. Could it be the different types of pollen that my bees are bringing in that is causing me to sneeze uncontrollably (25 sneezes, nonstop) since they are well within flight distance of the ornamentals, or is it the hive odors that changed since I moved them (as a result of the diverse pollen gathering)? I strongly believe it’s the different types of pollen, but would like to hear a second opinion as what is causing me to sneeze.
In the previous area, I didn’t sneeze at all; they had a limited range of food (Citrus, Avocado {Blooms March to May}, Raspberry, Eucalyptus {Dec to Feb}, then Sage{ Salvia apiana, S. mellifera, S. leucophylla- Summer forage if it rains over 16"}), Encelia californicus, and the native Buckwheats, which are the major nectar flows, not including garden plants.
I borrowed a pollen trap and used it to see what the bees are bringing in, and according to a botanist, there are about 58 different species, most of it is from Queen palms, and Indian Hawthorn, but these plants don't cause me to sneeze. I was also told by another beekeeper that it's the first sign of me beginning to have allergic reactions to bee stings. In all my inspections sneezing or not, I get stung at least 5 to 10 times, and have welts and all, but no serious reactions after being stung.
Am I going to have to throw in the hive tool/smoker into the ring? Thank you for your time; your answer/response is always appreciated.
Pancho
P.S. Despite a dry winter (Southern California to date 6.54"..Avg. 13.00"{Ventura County}) I want to expand from 16 hives to 50 hives, any advice on how to expand despite a lack of summer forage? My goal is to have at least 50 strong singles by August/September.
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I am not a doctor, nor have I ever played one on TV, but it sure sounds like you are sensitive to some kind of “protein” emanating from these honey bee colonies. When you stick your nose in the pollen trap tray with all the collected pollen, you don’t sneeze, is that right? You only sneeze when you open up the hive and start manipulating the hive? When colonies are opened, the guards/workers release lots of pheromones, which are chemical odors that say, “Oh my gosh the nest has been opened and we are in jeopardy from a big predator.” These pheromones are proteins that your body responds to as a ‘foreign protein’ invader that needs to be guarded against. In this situation guard bees, especially if they are African, will sometimes get so excited that they will dribble venom from their stingers that can evaporate, becoming a mist and be breathed in as a foreign invader protein. Then, there is the pollen (protein coatings) being brought in and all the other stuff that can be in the air and breathed in.
Your body does all sorts of immunological things to get rid of these foreign proteins (runny itchy eyes, sneezing, coughing, and recruiting antibodies to fight the protein invaders and lots of other stuff). Sometimes your body goes overboard and you go into anaphylactic shock and stop breathing.
I would think that going to an allergy specialist and having a “test” to see what might be going on is a good idea. This could be just a sneezing adventure that will go away or it could spontaneously and dramatically become a life threatening situation when you are out in a remote bee yard by yourself. Spend a few bucks and go to the allergist. It is better to be safe than sorry. They have treatments that can help you stay well and keep being a beekeeper. Do it soon. After you visit the doctor, then we can talk about going from 16 to 50 colonies.
PANCHO REPLIES
You’re good….. you described my typical apiary inspection:
"When you stick your nose in the pollen trap tray with all the collected pollen, you don’t sneeze, is that right? You only sneeze when you open it up and start manipulating the hive? When colonies are opened the guards / workers release lots of pheromones which are chemical odors that say, ‘Oh my gosh the nest has been opened and we are in jeopardy from a big predator.’”
The good thing about this though is it's not all my 16 hives, otherwise it wouldn't be a good day, it’s only a few hives (requeening late this month), and they are a little hot, but not truly African (cannot rule it out at this moment). I knew a beekeeper down in Mexico who had about 5,000 colonies, but since the African honey bee (AHB) moved in, he found it difficult to maintain European honey bee (EHB) hives in the hot and humid weather (Nayarit, Sinaloa, Jalisco). They would swarm often (Italian Strain), and have a low honey crop since much of the work force was in for water, and he also found it even more difficult to work with AHB since they were more prone to abscond in the dry months--not to mention liability, loss of cattle, goat, sheep if they got too close to those boxes. Those are vicious bees, you work one, and you rattle all the other ones without opening them. It was a good thing with white veils that you could see the madness within and beyond the apiary boundaries.
Thanks again Jerry, I will take a look at what you recommended and go through and have it checked out. Till then you have a good season, and hope all is well for you and your bees.
Pancho
Q Persuading Bees to Draw Foundation
I love your column…read it religiously, so thought you might answer a question for me. I live just outside San Antonio, and put in my first hive in 2009. I put in another in 2010, and a third just last week. The latter are doing fine. Well, all three are doing fine. I haven’t expected much in the way of honey, due to the drought we’ve had for a couple of years now. My original hive is going great guns…bees everywhere, and very active. Here’s my problem: I can’t get the girls to draw out medium supers. I called local beekeepers, and even contacted the Texas State Apiary inspector. He told me (last year) to try the supers without an excluder, because sometimes in South Texas bees just wouldn’t draw out foundation for some reason with an excluder on. My mentor in Georgia told me to be patient. I’m not really experienced in honey flows, but if we’re not having one right now, with the wet winter and spring, I don’t guess I’ll ever see one. The top deep weighs about 75 pounds, so I know it’s full. I tried putting the supers between the two deeps, but still no joy. Should I put an excluder between the two deeps (after making sure the queen is in the right place), and wait a couple of weeks and harvest the honey from there? Should I continue “being patient”? I know there’s honey to harvest, but just can’t seem to get at it. Any suggestions appreciated.
Regards,
Travis
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Hello Travis, it sounds like you are doing pretty well, considering the weather challenges you have had. Having a deep with honey in it at this time of year, even if it was collected mostly last year is good. To jump to your question, your "excluder between the two deeps" is a good one. Be sure you know where the queen is and how many eggs and brood are up top that you'll have to wait on.
As you know, beeswax production takes a lot of calories. Having a lot of young bees and a strong nectar flow to provide the calories for the wax glands and a need to build comb to store the nectar/honey are the prime considerations and triggers to go from foundation to comb. Take out any one of those elements and the possibility of comb building drops precipitously. Hang in there, you are doing fine.
The Classroom June 2012
by Jerry Hayes
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Q Size Really Does MatterThanks for all the great info. I know of no other forum where you can get your questions answered with the knowledge and resources that you have. I have been reading Jay Smith's and other older literature with all of the references to jumbo brood boxes. Do you have any pro or con information regarding jumbo's.
Dadant still offers foundation in 25 lb. lots for this size hive, but no woodenware. Western Bee Supplies said they stopped making them when 1x12 boards became hard to get. Do you know of any sources of boxes and frames?
Thanks again,
Tom
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Thanks for the compliment, but it takes all of us working together. European Honey Bees are cavity nesters. Give them a large enough cavity to build comb, raise enough new bees and store 100 lbs. of honey to make it through a long cold winter, in the wall of a house, barn or shed, a hollow tree, the trunk of an old Buick and they will set up housekeeping. There is an optimal size, but bigger is better than smaller.
Jumbo equipment was used when Langstroth popularized bee space and movable frames as a large, self-contained, stationary way to keep bees. The bees liked it, but the equipment could be difficult to move and lift when boxes were full of honey and might weigh 75-100 lbs. It took a couple of stout lads to be beekeepers. One person couldn't do it. When migratory beekeeping started and hives had to be loaded and unloaded off wagons, the Old Model T's or even train cars by hand, the hive was just too big, unwieldy and not user friendly. The smaller 10-frame Langstroth hive became popular as a smaller lighter more efficient way to keep bees. Now there is 8-frame equipment that is even more user friendly for the mature audience, the less robust of us and those who have no desire to lift a lot.
Will they work? Yes. Is it worth making your own.....I doubt it. Some of the European catalogs still have the "Jumbo" but do you really want to spend that much, get a hernia, drive away friends that you ask to help lift full jumbo boxes, and pay the car payment on the BMW the chiropractor drives?
Q Read Those Labels!
Thanks for a great column. In the last one you wrote about small hive beetle (SHB) control with chemicals like coumaphos, which have high risk for the bees they are supposed to be helping. I'd like you to enlarge on that a little, please. It is difficult to put a sure number on this, but I have had good luck with baits using boric acid. I use either burr comb with a good amount of pollen in it melted in with vegetable oil to an emulsion like mayonnaise, or artificial pollen cakes that the beetles like so much, mix this with boric acid, and put this in Coroplast, you know, those political signs that are in such surplus now. I cut strips between two and four inches wide, with the holes ranked along the long side of the cut. Beetles can go in, bees cannot. I seal the side with the bait with masking tape. I have put the inside, four traps ranked around the tops of the frames facing inward, or outside (or both) in a strip under the landing board. I take care that the entrance is the only way in for the beetles. Inside the bees chase the beetles to the topmost box, so I only put traps there.
I had a HEAVY infestation that went to a very acceptable one in two weeks with this. I never see dead SHB--I think they go in, eat the bait and die in the hive, the bees removing them. If they track bait out, it doesn't seem to damage the bees. That's really my question. I know boric acid will hurt bees, but since it is not volatile like other insecticides, they would have to ingest if, wouldn't they? It seems to work well, is cheap and easy to do, and if the risk is acceptable, something I want to continue. Should I?
I heard you have changed jobs. All the best with that--we need a good bee advocate with Monsanto.
Bill Behrend
Albany, SW Georgia
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Hello Bill, boric acid is a poison. It might seem that it is relatively safe, but it is a lot like many poisons that seem okay, but long-term are bad for us, pets, etc. Caffeine is a poison, salt, sugar even distilled water if we drink too much. Word to the wise, boric acid is not labeled for small hive beetle control (SHB), so no recommendations.
Boric Acid is a stomach poison for insects. The mineral in it is Boron which inhibits insect digestion and then metabolism and if enough is ingested, the insect dies. When put in food baits for cockroaches, ants, termites, silverfish, they eat enough and the stomach poison starts to work.
I suppose if you could get SHB to eat it, they would be negatively affected. I would certainly be concerned about the food lure that you are using that bees don't get hold of it. It could be that if the SHB eats this concoction, they feel ill and leave the colony and that is why there may be a decrease. SHB are tough and I doubt they are dead.
So, now you have experimented and you want my advice. My advice is that you have made an unlabeled pesticide and are using it in a form that the colony could eat, share the food around and add to the toxic burden of the colony and do you really need to do this? Can't you just use the SHB traps on the market and do the same thing more safely? No sense in reinventing the wheel, possibly further jeopardizing the colony and it is illegal.
Yes, I have a new job Bill. If I didn't think Monsanto could help beekeepers control honey bee pests, parasites and diseases safely, I wouldn't be here. Thanks for your support
Q Treating for Nosema
First, thank you for the interesting article each month in ABJ and the range of subjects addressed. Over the past year, I keep hearing about the "Spray treatment for Nosema". I must have missed it, but I can get very few details on the treatment, how effective it is, dosages, how to apply, and even the products used for the actual treatment. I understand that it is much faster and easy to apply which is what has me trying to find out if this is something I would want to use.
I am a hobby beekeeper with about 15 hives. For years, each fall I have feed two gallons of sugar syrup to each hive with Fumagilin-B with good results. The old saying "if it is not broke, don't fix it" may apply here, however, if there is a better, less costly, way of doing things, I would be open for that also.
I have heard that the contents of the spray are a mixture of Nozevit and Fumagilin-B. Both products are mixed according to the label instructions, combined and applied to the top bars of the frames. I do not know the amount applied to each hive or any other details.
My question is simply, what is the spray treatment for Nosema, does it work, what are the correct dosages, what products, and etc.?
I would like your opinion on using this as the only treatment for Nosema, and the complete procedure to mix, when and how to apply, amounts to apply to each hive, and any other information on this treatment method.
Regards,
Ron
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When you try to feed anything to honey bees in the standard liquid feeders on the market, they work well but have some built-in drawbacks. The real problem is how fast can the colony consume the feed with the ‘chemical’ of choice in it? The first challenge and it is not a huge one is that honey bees cannot communicate a food source this close. They think food is outside on a flower not inside in a jar. They do not have a language that says there is a food, nectar/pollen inside my hive. So, every bee has to learn where the food, sugar syrup in this case, is on their own by themselves. So, there may be a lag time in all the foragers finding the feed. This relates to the next challenge that most “chemicals’ put in sugar syrup start breaking down quickly in this acidic solution. You do not get the same dosage yesterday that you got today. Then, you have to consider weather in the spring or fall. If it gets too cold and the colony is too small, they will form a cluster quickly and most feeding stops altogether for X period of time, depending how long the temperature stays below 57 F. So, other than these problems it is a perfect system.☺
In order to get past these shortcomings of a liquid ‘feeder’, some enterprising beekeepers figured out that if you use a pump-up garden-type sprayer and can figure out the right dosage, based on volume of spray and concentration of medicated syrup, that this could be done faster and perhaps more accurately, if all the mixing, dosing, concentrations are correct. What they do is calibrate the sprayer i.e. figure out how much spray is coming out in X time, generally seconds. Then, they open up the colony and spray for the X period of time whatever bees are exposed to the spray and close it up and move on to the next colony. What this does is force the bees to get the right dosage quickly as the bees have to clean themselves up and any overspray on frames, etc. These bees will, in turn, share the medicated syrup with their sisters and in a short period of time the whole colony is treated. Voila, all the constraints of standard feeders are by-passed.
The problem with this system is that of mixing the correct concentration, and dosing accurately. I looked up what a spray concentration might be for Fumagillin in 1:1 sugar syrup and for spraying the correct dosage, you have to figure out how to get 2 grams per liter of the active ingredient into each colony by spraying. Underdose and it won’t work; overdose and you waste money and stress the bees. Feeding in a feeder might look better now.
Treating with Nozevit and Fumagillin might be…is overkill in my opinion. Pick one and hope they work.
Q A Shot in the Dark?
Hi Jerry, my name is Francisco "Pancho" Macias, and I have been beekeeping for 3 years now. I am glad to say that this is the first year that I haven't had any major bee losses (Third time is the Charm). I am located in Southern California and we do have AHB in our area. My first two years I used to get my queens from Northern California. They are really good queens, gentle, but highly susceptible to Varroa. When I made the switch to Texas I got strong and hardy bees, although they weren't as gentle from my previous suppliers, but they are tolerable (<25% African honey bees (AHB)). I want to go back with gentle bees, but I don't want to have just one drone type in which the queens mated with. If I use a virgin queen, she may mate with the diversity of drones that I have in the area. Even though she still has the chance of mating with an AHB drone, her offspring will result in a diverse hive with higher probabilities of survival. My motto is use the drones that are out there from acclimated hives/feral hives since it’s in the genetics of those colonies that will have a higher chance to survive--that is what I’m going for.
There are several reasons why I do not do rear queens from my own hives: 1) The queens may have mated with an AHB drone and the chances of an African descendent queen is higher, 2nd generations are no fun. 2) They tend to swarm more readily if they’re congested, even if they’re only using 1 of 3, or 4 boxes. 3) They seem to use more propolis than the bees from Northern California. Thanks for any advice you can give me.
Francisco "Pancho" Macias
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Pancho, having varroa control and not having bees chase you back to the truck or inside the house is the goal of many beekeepers in the Southern tier of States. Have you looked at purchasing queens from producers who also advertise Varroa Sensitive Hygiene (VSH), or Minnesota Hygienic Queens or Russian Queens? I would not suggest that any virgins be “open mated” in any area with confirmed AHB. It is just not worth the risk if there are people, pets and livestock in your area. As you know, sometimes open-mated queens in areas with AHB and AHB drones, which carry the grumpy gene, can be okay, but the next minute it is uncomfortable and dangerous. I would do some web searches on VSH, Minnesota Hygienic and Russian Queens and see what you think. And, remember that these bees will have mated in areas free of AHB with a variety of drones. It is almost impossible to control Drone Congregation Areas (DCA’s), so there will always be a good genetic mix.
Q Winter Disappearance
Hello Jerry, I have a real problem. At the end of October 2011 I inspected my two bee hives for the coming winter and they were very strong and had plenty of honey. I'm in northwest Connecticut zone 5. During this very mild winter I did not see any bees flying around the hives, even on mild days, but opened the hives only a couple of days ago. The hives were empty: Only a few bees dead in the bottom and plenty of honey left. Everything was dry and clean, no mouse nest, etc.
The exact same thing happened in two out of three colonies the previous year that was on the contrary very, very snowy and relatively cold. No bees left in the hives with plenty of honey left and everything in perfect order in them.
I have no clue on what is going on. I appreciate your time.
Thanks,
Sergio Villaschi
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Good morning Sergio. It is always difficult diagnosing from a distance. Before I get into too much depth, things like this, whether they are called colony collapse disorder (CCD) or not, always relate to the colonies going into winter, mild or cold, with too many old honey bees or honey bees that are prematurely aging. In the late summer, as you looked forward and prepared for winter, did you survey and treat for the known suspects of Varroa and Nosema? The bees produced from then until winter are physiologically different than summer bees that only live 6-8 weeks. These winter bees have to survive for 5-6 months and they have to be healthy. If honey bees have a problem, i.e. are sick, they will leave the colony on their own so they do not spread the sickness any further among their sisters or to the colony environment in general. Over even a short winter, a majority of the bees will leave and die in the environment, leaving the colony empty with food still there at some point.
So, what pathogen, parasite or other factor was involved that precipitated your colony to empty itself, only you will be able to tell. Pest, parasite and disease control is a 24/7/365 issue with late summer early fall key times. Since there are so many stress factors involved in successful overwintering, anything you can do to eliminate some of these problems will help. Good luck this season.
Q Requeening with a Queen Cell?
I'm a first-year beekeeper and purchased a three-pound package of bees this spring. I do have a hive of bees I got from my uncle also, but they are mean and I would like to requeen them. Yesterday I found a queen cell in my package bee hive with a new egg in it. I am wondering if there would be a way to develop this as a good queen to use in the aggressive hive that I would like to requeen? I am planning to put the frame with the queen cell together with two other frames with brood into a nuc box. But when do I make this change and when do I introduce the new queen into the mean hive after I get her mated? If you would have any thoughts on this, I would appreciate hearing them. Thanks so much!
Sincerely,
Shane Unruh
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It takes 16 days for a queen to be raised. Go into the grumpy colony, kill the queen and wait a minimum of 8 hours for her pheromones to dissipate, then put your queen cell containing frame in and, as always, cross your fingers. Remember, your new queen, even if she is perfect, may mate with grumpy drones in your area and then things may not be peaceful. Open mating in certain areas of the country, especially those with African honey bee feral populations, is precarious.
Q Requeening
Thanks for your continuing support for we beekeeping folk. You are an international bee school! To my question: If one incorrectly assumes that a honey bee colony is "without a queen" and introduces a new queen, what is the usual result?
Wayne M. Patten
Exeter, New Hampshire
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You are too kind. We are all in this together. If you made a mistake and the original queen is still in the colony, the one you put in will die before she is released from her cage from being stung through it.
If your diagnosis is right, but it is after a few weeks of being hopelessly queenless, workers (female) will start developing the ability to lay eggs--not fertilized eggs, of course, but unfertilized eggs, which result in all drones. There can be many workers that develop this trait. The colony now thinks it does have a queen and requeening with a “real” mated queen is complicated. It can be done, but it isn’t easy. Some variables here are what time of year it is, how long they were queenless? Can you get the laying workers out? Is the colony too weak and it is better to combine it with another queenright colony, etc. This is beekeeping and if it were easy, everyone would be doing it.
The Classroom May 2012
by Jerry Hayes
Q WHICH BOOK FOR CHEMICAL-FREE BEEKEEPING?
What is the best "how-to" book to learn how to manage bees without chemicals? I would like to learn how to successfully manage with minimal chemical influence. I see where queen producers state that they are chemical free and have been for many years and I would like to learn how. Thanks for any help,
Barry
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Ross Conrad has authored a how-to beekeeping book entitled Natural Beekeeping available from www.dadant.com, #M00049. Ross says, “It’s time for a new approach. Natural beekeeping offers a holistic, sensible alternative to conventional chemical practices by proposing a program of natural hive management.”
However, read on for my opinion on the subject after years as a Florida bee inspector:
Honey bees are genetically programmed to grow, swarm and spread themselves around by swarming regularly and consistently because they don’t live in one location all that long. Wax moths have evolved over the eons to find the old dead colonies of honey bees in a tree or on a limb or in the last couple hundred years, a beekeeper’s skep, gum or box hive. They eat up and destroy the comb which harbors all of pathogens that kill honey bee colonies. Honey bees are not designed to live in a colony for more than a few years.
Then, beekeepers came along and wanted honey bees to stay in the container provided, not swarm and not get sick. Comb is valuable and beekeepers wanted to save it, but comb is also a reservoir/sponge for all sorts of bad stuff. Well, it is impossible to keep a colony in one place with the same comb forever. So, what you are asking is impossible. If you want to keep honey bees without inputs or at least Varroa control, then they will be gone or dead in 3-5 years and weak the rest of the time. Great goal, but if you want to manage honey bees for excess honey production or use them in fee-based pollination, then pest, parasite and pathogen control are going to be needed at some time and artificial food and queen replacement and swarm prevention, etc. To get the longest life out of a colony of honey bees, go to an area where there are no other beekeepers within 20 miles, there is lots of natural forage, no agriculture and then cross your fingers. Not to be discouraging, but good luck!
Q THE NOSEMA TWINS
I have been hearing some surprising comments about Nosema at recent state and local bee meetings and would like to hear your thoughts.
1) Nosema apis is disappearing and being replaced by Nosema ceranae. If so, what is the mechanism for this? Why don’t the two just coexist? From recent articles it appears that even in an infected hive, there are plenty of bees that are free of Nosema, and therefore possible hosts for either form. Did our bees develop resistance to the old Nosema apis just in time for the new Nosema ceranae’s appearance?
2) Nosema ceranae is much less virulent than Nosema apis, so don’t bother investing in a microscope or other expensive test gear? Would you agree?
3) Spraying medicated sugar syrup on the frames is a more effective technique than placing the syrup in a feeder. A recent ABJ article states that the spray method has been used for years by larger beekeepers. True? If so, why is this method not mentioned on the fumagillin instruction sheet?
Thanks,
Russ Adkins
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Good Morning Russ. I have plenty of thoughts sometimes, but not real good or amazing solve your problem answers. Here we go.
1) How about this for a head scratcher. Nosema apis and ceranae are separated by only 2-3 genes. Nosema ceranae has been found in samples from Mexico and Canada from 15-20 years ago and a decade or so in the US from old archived samples of honey bees in lab freezers. Maybe they aren’t separate species, but simply different strains of the same thing. Their virulence is from low to high, depending on the honey bee’s immune system, timing and situation. My guess is that they are the same thing--kind of like Pit Bulls and Toy Poodles, the same but different.
2) Surveying for pests, parasites and diseases in honey bee colonies is a good idea. This is like you going to have a physical exam every few years as you get older to see how things are going.
3) When you put medication into some kind of feeder, it sometimes takes a while for the feed to be consumed. It might get cold, or it might get warm. For example, lots of nectar-producing flowers, which are more attractive than sugar syrup, or some other reason might interfere with optimal timing and dosage to best treat the disease. The bees simply do not consume it fast enough to get a proper dosage. Spraying whatever part of the colony is exposed with a known dose forces them to consume that known dose within minutes and get the proper treatment.
The bees share this dose around with their sisters and within hours an efficacious treatment is the result. However, it takes lots of money to do the studies for optimal “Delivery” and then list the new delivery technique on the label.
Q Cleaning Plastic Foundation
I have a stack of used plastic foundation that has cocoons stuck in the cells. I've tried removing them with hot lye water, bleach, and high-pressure water. Some have come out, but not all. I'm leery of giving them back to the bees since disease spores could be harboring under those cocoons.
Any suggestions?
Steve
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Most beekeepers cut or scrape the comb down to the plastic base/mid rib with the imprinted hexagon cell base. Then re-coat with melted beeswax to create basically "new" foundation.
Certainly cocoons can be considered possible disease harboring entities, but the beeswax itself is the biggest concern. Beeswax is a chemical sponge and honey bees are environmental samplers bringing in all sorts of toxins plus the varroacides that you may be putting in the colony. Remove the comb and it removes toxins and any pathogens sequestered in the brood cells. You are on the right path.
Q QUEEN PRODUCTION
I have few questions: I need to know the grafting age of larvae; should they be two days old or 3 days old?
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An egg is an egg for 3 days, then hatches into a larva. The younger the larva that is used to be fed royal jelly, the more ovarioles (egg-producing organs) it will have which means potentially more eggs laid. After about 3 days this ability to a have more egg laying structures formed from a royal jelly diet goes away.
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Second question: I have heard the cells are sealed on 6th day. Therefore, why not move them to nucs on the 8th or 9th day?
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There is some wiggle room with time, but around day 7 or 8, the queen cell is capped. Many beekeepers worldwide use capped queen cells to requeen with. Just be sure the colony you are requeening is queenless first for 8 + hours minimum if possible.
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Third question: After 25 days or so when the drone and worker cells are capped, will this help to verify if the queen had mated well by checking if she is laying drones or worker bees?
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It is unusual if queen production and mating takes place at a time that no drones are present, but it could happen. Obviously, some of this is your responsibility. If there were no drones available to mate with or the weather was such that the virgin could not get out to mate, then one would see unfertilized eggs laid and drones immediately. If she was mated, but not with 20 or more drones, you would not know until several months down the road because she has sperm to access until it runs out.
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Fourth question: I bought mini nucs from Mann Lake; inside they have a feeder. Can I dissolve Mega Bee Patty with sugar syrup and if so, what ratio?
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Be careful of small hive beetle. If natural pollen is available, then I don't know that you need a substitute.
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Last question: Where we are in Florida we have small hive beetle (SHB) everywhere and to add Mega Bee patty on top of the hive frames might invite trouble with SHB, so can I do the same with a top feeder (feeder with bottle inverted under hive cover )? As I am preparing the cell builder, I want to feed heavy Mega Bee.
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Although the bees are bringing in pollen, SHB will target mini nucs, regardless if you are using a pollen substitute or supplement "patty" or not. These mini nucs are too small to defend themselves. Ultimately, you would be better with full size 4-5 frame nucs. I would bring in frames of beebread from other colonies as there is better available nutrition in beebread than in a pollen substitute. If you don't have access to this natural pollen, you may have to use a pollen sub patty as it is better than nothing. But, mini-nucs have a target on them that only SHB can see and they will invade them. So, be watchful.
The Classroom April 2012
by Jerry Hayes
Q Formic Acid?
I run nearly 40 hives. Since mid-July, I have had to feed the girls. In the last few weeks the small hive beetle has emerged. I use a top feeder and I noticed that those hives that have dead bees have small hive beetle larvae; those feeders that have dead big black ants have no larvae. This could just be random chance or is this something in the decaying black ants that are repelling the small hive beetle. I am asking if this has been noted by other beekeepers.
Thank you,
Howard Thompson
Joplin, MO
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I think it may just be serendipity. We have tested all of the formic acid products (which is the poison that ants emit) and small hive beetles (SHB), at least in Florida, laugh at them. SHB regularly walk all over Mite-Away Quick Strips (active ingredient formic acid) and anything else. I have seen them swim across 75 % formic acid liquid in a Petri dish. They are tough. At those times where we have raised the concentration of formic acid vapor in a colony enough the kill a colony to see what the upper limit was, the SHB simply leave the colony and come back when it airs out a bit to start laying eggs and in a day or so the larvae are eating the dead brood, etc.
Continue to keep your eyes open as there may be a serendipity moment that will be really important.
Q Beauty Is In The Eye...
Somewhere early in our beekeeping careers we all learned to paint our supers and hive bodies white. So every time I get new equipment, it gets painted white and any old equipment that needs touched up gets painted white. But a couple of weeks ago my wife gathered up all of the copies of ABJ and that other magazine that I've got laying around the house and pointed out all of the hives that weren't white and asked why I painted mine white. Like any good husband of 30+ years, I made something up and then I started wondering myself. I started noticing that more of the apiaries from foreign countries are dark in color as is the apiary from Germany on the cover of the January 2012 issue. So, the question is does the color matter as long as it’s not black?
John Wisnewski
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Any color will do for the most part as any solar gain from the color will be compensated for by the honey bees internally. However, the prevailing thought has always been that you paint hives darker colors in cold northern climates to absorb heat and lighter colors in hotter climates to reflect heat. I saw a guy once who lived in Minnesota who painted his colonies in dark shades of black and brown for solar gain and the heat/warmth that would be absorbed when the colonies weren’t covered in snow in winter and spring. I don’t think it matters as a management issue. I think it is just more creative to have multiple colors on colonies. The best place to get paint is at garage sales-you know those partially filled cans from when the house was painted 5 years ago. You can also often pick up cheap exterior paint at paint stores that have inventories of mismatched paint rejected by the customer, etc.
Q Crystallized Honey Separation
Thank you for your time in the Questions and Answers column in the American Bee Journal. I just have one question today. My honey is crystallized in barrels and I take honey out as I need it. The honey in the barrel has never been heated, but there is some honey on the top of the crystallized honey that is in the liquid form. It looks like some separated.
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Honey is a supersaturated sugar solution. When it has a certain ratio of some sugars, they start forming sugar crystals. The solids (sugar crystals) link up and move out of the liquid. So, at some point you have the more solid sugar crystal mass and whatever honey, water solution that is left behind. Be careful, since the liquid honey left will now have a tendency to ferment more quickly because it is thinner after some of the sugars have crystallized out.
Q One Step Forward Two Steps Back
I am interested in starting a top rail [bar] bee hive. Any pros or cons would be greatly appreciated. I am new to beekeeping just in the gathering research stage. Our city just passed an ordinance that allows bee hives in city limits! If there is a workshop specific to top rail hives I would be very interested in attending. I live in Hastings, Nebraska, zone 4 to 5. Build your own or purchase one? Thank you for any information.
RaQuel
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RaQuel, it is really important to have hives that have easily movable frames. Part of the collaboration between you the beekeeper and the honey bee colony is for you to be able to identify pests, predators and diseases and if you want the bees to live, provide treatments.
The "Langstroth" style movable frame colony is the standard for efficiency and practicality. It was/is the culmination of many smart beekeeper researchers who were trying to make beekeeping more enjoyable and lucrative in the 1800's.
Top Bar hives are certainly fun and there is nothing wrong with using and experiencing them, but they are a step backwards in many regards. There are plans available online if you are a decent wood worker and can measure twice and cut once:)
As a new beekeeper I would encourage you to use standard movable frame equipment that can be purchased pre-cut and use this as your base to actually learn about honey bees for a few years as the foundation for other fun beekeeping adventures.
Q Reverse or Not?
I thank you for the information that you gave me from the questions I asked. I have 4 hives, two 9 5/8 boxes, I use for the brood boxes. The question I have is: Do I need to switch the bottom box that has brood in it with the top box that has just honey in it for the winter? Thinking this might help protect the brood from the cold. Then, switch them back in the spring? How often do you inspect the hive for mites or disease? Can you open the hive during the summer too much? When you take the honey boxes off in the fall, and the boxes you leave for the winter are full, what do the bees do?
Steven Kinnard
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Let me give your questions a shot. Remember, warm air rises and this will help the frozen honey get a little warmer as the colony eats and moves up to access the food. Don’t reverse in the fall. Question: If honey bees are living in the wild in a hollow tree, who reverses the colony? And honey bees have been living successfully for millennia without beekeepers. So…..don’t worry about reversing things; they know where stuff in their home is. How would you like to come home and somebody rearranged all of you living room furniture?
You can survey for varroa easily using a “Sticky Board” slid into the entrance for 24-48 hours and count mites. If you are a new beekeeper, opening them up when the temperature is above 60 F to just learn how to manipulate hive parts and assess the situation once a week is a good thing. You can back off to once a month when you get confidence. Beekeeping is a visual sport so get a good book with pest, predator and disease photos to have something to compare to. If you have ‘supers’ on your hive and take them off, the colony adjusts to the new space in the two brood boxes. You have to leave on 60 + lbs. of honey for them to make it through a typical northern winter. Take honey in the brood chamber away and it makes it harder for the bees to survive. You have made it much easier for the cluster to die from starvation.
Q Early Splits
A hobbyist beekeeper in cold, blustery Montana (it's snowing TODAY!), I have a question for you. Several days ago I made up four splits from my over-wintered colonies. In order to conserve heat (it's only 52 F. today), for the first time I decided to place the increase colonies above the parent colonies, with a double screen dividing the two boxes. My question is: How long do you think I should leave them in this configuration? Is this more dependent on day and night-time temperatures than anything else?
Thank you very much for your advice. Have a great day!
Doug Stream
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97 degrees F here in Florida--snow almost sounds good.
Several options:
- Wait until day and night time temps are 60 degrees F or above or you have 5 frames of brood & bees.
- Make a two-queen colony out of them for fun.
- Make nucs for emergency replacement of queens, bees & brood during the year.
Q Dead Bees In The Snow
Here In Maine this winter it has been really mild. We did have a cold snap last weekend."10 below" Right after I noticed around the outside of the hive a lot of dead bees in the snow, and the amount seems to be growing daily. The temp has only been in the 20's and 30's, not warm enough to take a cleansing flight.
When I listen to the hive there is still a lot of buzzing inside. Each of my hives went into the winter with 80+ lbs of honey. I can’t hear anything in my other hive and there are no dead bees on the outside. I am thinking it did not survive for some reason.
This fall I treated for mites and nosema. I wrapped the hives with tar paper and hoped for the best. Are these dead bees on the outside of the hive a bad sign?
Marcia Smith
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Marcia, in Maine there are a lot of bees lost over a long winter. Remember that the queen shuts down laying relatively early, even with your warm early fall/winter. And with a significant cold snap and cold temperatures following, some of the older bees will continue to die. A brown bee on a white background of snow stands out clearly, but may not be a big concern as this is normal. If you treated for mites and nosema in late August or early September and there was lots of honey and no other disease, then you are 80% there. It is always the other 20% unpredictable wild card of pest, predators and diseases that is the concern. Cross your fingers, this is still agriculture!
Regarding your other colony where you haven’t heard any buzzing, don’t give up on it until you have a nice day and can actually open up the hive and check to see if the colony is actually dead, or the cluster is simply low in the hive and quiet.
Q Old Queen / New Queen
I had decided to combine a weak hive with a failing queen with a package (and new queen) I have coming in about another week. I’ve left the old queen hoping she would start to lay. I checked the hive today and still no brood, eggs or anything…..except one very nice capped queen cell right in the middle of a frame. I didn’t see anything when I checked about 10 days ago. Is it possible the old girl squeezed out one final egg? What now? Do I kill the old girl to be sure she doesn’t do anything foolish?
Richard
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Life finds a way. It is possible that she was still able to start laying again. It is also possible that the queen cell is not viable. Whatever the case, she probably needs to move on to another existence which doesn't include this colony. I'd wait though until you receive your new queen in hand. When the new queen shows up, check to see if visually she looks okay and if so, then go into the hive, destroy the old queen and introduce the new queen in her introduction cage.
Q Wavy Comb Building
Hello again Jerry, and thank you for your earlier response to my question on wavy foundation. I understand that good parallel frames in the brood nest makes working with the bees most efficient, with less chance of crushing them and also for them to have equally sized brood cells on the same plane. Would these wavy frames (and I have A LOT of them) be okay for the honey frames, since the bees can draw them out, less or more, and at least store honey in them. Or, would they still present a problem?
And, do you think the waviness could be a result of something other than the heat in the hive (which I would expect to result in a wave sagging downwards and not sideways), or might they be a result of my stretching the imbedded wires to tightly - creating the 'warping' in each row - sideways rather than up and down?
And yes, you can call me a nut, like my husband is doing, and tell me to just forget the cost and cut them out, buy new sheets of foundation, and add the frames slowly, so the damage will be less. Never a dull moment. Thanks again for you advise and help.
Best wishes,
Carol
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Well, I wouldn't call you a nut, but for pure efficiency, your husband might be someone to listen to. But, part of the beekeeping journey is doing stuff like this just to see what happens. You can use them in honey supers, but I would not recommend it unless you are a very patient person because capped wavy honey combs will make uncapping frames of honey at extracting time a frustrating experience.
I truthfully have never seen wire in wired frames stretched too tightly. They should be like a wire in a piano or violin. And that means they are straight and true. Embed these wires in beeswax foundation and there will be zero waves. How did you embed the wires into the wax? Regardless of what I or your husband says, have fun with your bees. They are forgiving and you will learn a lot.
Q Comment on "Wax Moths in Colorado" (February Classroom)
Drawn combs are a great asset to beekeepers. To find whole supers trashed by wax moths while in storage is a harrowing experience. Not only is there the loss of valuable combs, the beekeeper has to spend an enormous amount of time cleaning up the horrendous mess, then spend money on new sheets of foundation and involve himself in fitting the wax into the frames. But that isn`t the end of the story. To convert those sheets of new foundation into good combs, the bees have to use copious amounts of honey or syrup to construct them - and usually at a time when the drawn combs would have been used to store the incoming nectar.
The destructive potential of wax moths is exacerbated in warmer climates. Living in the southernmost part of Greece where wax moths are active throughout most of the year, I know that boxes of combs can be destroyed within a few days if they are not given the appropriate care. I therefore have a lot of sympathy with Brian Vanlwarden`s problems.
However, I do not altogether agree with Jerry Hayes' answer to his question.
First of all - and most importantly - I strongly disagree with his suggestion that paradichlorobenzine (PDB) be used to control wax moth. The crystals are carcinogenic and hazardous to all people who use them. Not only that, but as the crystals vaporize between the stored supers, the fumes are absorbed by the wax which can then lead to residues of the chemical contaminating honey. In the survey of pollutants in hives a couple of years ago in the US, PDB figured as one of the chemical residues found in honeycombs. In the excellent new book 'Honey Bee Colony Health - Challenges and Sustainable Solutions', edited by Diana Sammataro & Jay A Yoder (which every serious beekeeper should read), in Table 1 Maximum pesticide incidence in apiary samples of wax, pollen, bee, and honey (Chapter 14 Pest and Honey Bee Toxicity in the US, Reed M Johnson, Marion D Ellis, Christopher A Mulin and Marryann Frazier), PDB is listed as one of the highest pollutants of wax – 60,000 parts per billion. Residues were also found in honey - 112 parts per billion. This is not surprising as many beekeepers keep their super combs for many years and with an annual treatment of PDB the level of residues rises. Any amount of airing before putting treated supers on hives will do little to lessen residue levels.
A few years ago in Greece, several packers and distributers of honey had to remove vast quantities of their products from supermarket shelves as the honey was found to have high levels of PDB. Most enlightened beekeepers - especially in Europe - are aware of the problem and don't use PDB, nor will beekeeping suppliers stock the product.
What should Brian Vanlwarden do then?
I would suggest that, if possible, the supers are left in place on strong colonies while ensuring that any cracks or knot holes are sealed with duct tape. Another simple method of control is to stack supers sideways-on, like books on shelves, where there is plenty of light - under a carport or similar shelter would do. A beekeeper I know in Bulgaria successfully stores his honeycombs in a building, the combs being placed in racks made of parallel rows of battens. A light is kept burning as a good deterrent against the moths.
If money isn't too much of a problem, or if only a few hives are kept, I would recommend the use of Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) - an organic method of wax moth control. In Europe it is manufactured under the name of B401, or Certan, and contains spores of the bacteria in a suspension. The drug is diluted with water and sprayed on to both sides of each comb and gives effective control against wax moth for a whole year. While Bt doesn't kill either the adult moths or eggs, it targets the grubs which do the damage, the spores germinating in their guts, eventually killing them. I also find that fumigating combs with acetic acid prior to storage will kill the larval and pupal stages of the moth. I usually treat all used combs with acetic acid annually as it destroys the spores of nosema.
If sufficient safe storage space isn't available, it is possible to prioritize so that the most vulnerable combs are protected. In this case, the darker combs should be given preferential treatment as they contain more old cocoons and debris which are particularly attractive to the moths.
With all the problems bees already have because of the use of hazardous chemicals, I cannot see any reason why beekeepers should hang on to outdated treatments like PDB when they are generally considered to be dangerous and when other, safer options are available. Often beekeepers are tempted to take risks when treating pests, sheep dip was used in the past for mite treatment, and moth balls containing naphthalene I know have been used for wax moth control. It is incumbent on all of us to do whatever is safest and best for our bees, for the customers who buy our products and, of course, for our own health too.
John Phipps
Editor
The Beekeepers Quarterly
Greece
JERRY RESPONDS
I have a few comments: 1) John, it looks like you are commenting from a Greek or Mediterranean perspective, which is fine and I agree that fewer chemicals are better than more, but as a last resort PDB is labeled for protection of comb in stored honey bee beeswax comb in the US. 2) There are no BT products registered in the US for hive use currently so that is not an option. When the BT product Certan was sold here years ago, few beekeepers used it because it was labor intensive and sometimes unreliable. 3) The light bulb technique works for as many frames as you can put in a container or room and keep a light bulb on 24/7 for a few frames. 4) Storing comb safely and consistently from destructive wax moth larvae has been a challenge since the beginning of beekeeping and unless one uses freezing, or chambers with inert gas, it is a tradeoff like everything else in beekeeping.
The Classroom March 2012
by Jerry Hayes
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Q Small Hive Beetles In Quebec
First, let we tell you that I always read your page “The Classroom” in ABJ with great interest.
In the last ABJ December issue, you answer a question on “Small hive beetle in Indiana” from a beekeeper. In the answer, you say “Don’t put any type of pesticides in the trap as it doesn’t make the trap work any better.....” I would like to know if you have some data on this or any other reference to rely on?
Here in Quebec, we found our first beetle in 2008 along the border with NY and Vermont states. Since then we are doing active surveillance and we mostly used the “Beetle barn trap” in September 2011. We place a small piece of Checkmite in that trap, believing it will be more effective while there is no honey box on the hive. Adding coumaphos in the trap means we can’t use it in the summer and honestly, I was also worried that the coumaphos odor may be repellent for the SHB.
Should we really remove the pesticide in the trap while having the same efficacy for detection of the SHB in the hive? Your help is appreciated....and we keep fighting this pest.
Regards!
Claude
Quebec
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Claude, the problem we have seen with various baits in small hive beetle (SHB) traps is they do not stay in the trap. These pesticides do not have quick knock down. SHB adults will go into and out of the trap tracking coumaphos or fipronil, the pesticide of choice many times, all over the hive, comb etc. Beeswax, being a chemical sponge, absorbs chemicals readily and this adds to the pesticide load within the colony. We can have 100’s and 100’s of SHB adults in a colony in Florida seemingly doing no harm. They are simply waiting for that colony to lose population because of disease, or queenlessness or....whatever. Keeping the colonies strong and/or removing boxes to squeeze the colony down so there is a bee on every inch of comb is the goal.
I would LOVE to be in Quebec with SHB! Winter is a cleansing season. We don’t have that here.
Q Squirrels and Bees
There is something we would like to see investigated and checked out. The summer before last we put out some Squirrel Away, that ultra-hot red pepper, maybe habaneros, that is used to keep furry creatures from eating bird seeds or your shop doors. And what do you know; a day later the bees were picking it up and taking it back to the hive for food! In not much more than a day it was all in the hives!
The mites have a cuticle and bees don’t, plus bees like birds, apparently have no receptor sites to make this pepper burn. I mixed a package of Squirrel Away with two pounds of powdered sugar and used about a cup of the mixture to dust a small hive. All the brood was fine the next day, so I did it again. On the third day there were three or four yellow larvae, but possibly some of the mixture may have gotten right in the cells. The brood and bees were still okay.
I feel the right amount of hot pepper dust, like the half a pound or so of powdered garlic and bit of cinnamon (heat in their own right) that we mix in ten pounds of powdered sugar, may give the powdered sugar dusting much more punch. Also, what about somebody making or investigating a consumable or disposable pepper strip, or pepper food strip, even a strip of cardboard soaked in the capsaicin oil? Maybe we could put a cup or two or four of the hot, hot ground pepper in our batches of pollen cake.
At maybe $200.00 and change per fifty pound bag of ground cayenne, or $500.00 per fifty pound bag for habanero powder, cost per strip or pollen cake would be very low. This might (or might not) be an effective mite treatment, but I think it is worth looking at. I get the feeling there are hundreds of ways to keep bees healthy that none of us ever even thought of trying in pollen cakes and dustings, but I don’t see this happening in a big way. Maybe there’s somebody out there who wants to run with this and see what the possibilities are; maybe standardize the capsaicin quantity and make a strip or something if it looks likely
Thanks and Best Regards, Edwina and Chris Stockwell
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Edwina and Chris, what you have described is certainly possible but maybe not entirely. The varroa foot pads are designed to cling to their host, the adult honey bee, and ride around and then hop off when they are in a good location to enter a larval cell. Powdered sugar gets in-between the foot pads and the honey bee and the varroa mite loses the ‘cling’ part and they fall off within minutes. It is a mechanical control. Doesn’t make much difference what kind of fine powder is used as long as it is not toxic to bees. We got the idea years and years ago when I and others heard about beekeepers in India using rice flour to dust their colonies with to remove varroa, we decided powdered sugar was appropriate because it is a fine powder, it removes mites safely mechanically and the bees could eat the varroa treatment.
Lots of powders and dust could be used. Mites and honey bees both have cuticles; it is just that the honey bee is such a large robust insect in comparison to the varroa that they simply groom themselves of the ‘powder’ and thus remove slightly more mites. There have been lots of attempts to add other things to the ‘powdered sugar’ treatment to make it more effective. Go ahead and add whatever you want, but it won’t increase the efficiency of the powdered sugartreatment. Use pure garlic powder separately or cayenne powder separately or talcum powder separately or cinnamon. They all will work. Powdered sugar is cheaper, is edible and will not make your hive smell like an Italian restaurant.
Capsaicin strips won’t work for mite knock down because the mite’s cuticle has no nerve endings in it. It might burn or irritate mite antennae or mouth parts, but that is probably all.
Keep thinking. This has all been tried years ago. But, that is no reason not to try things. Do your own experiment using products separately or in combinations, using multiple colonies and collecting and counting the mites removed every two weeks for several months. You can see what may work better or not. Give it a try.
Q Be Careful About Which Wax Moth Comb Protectant You Use
Recently I read that one should not use naphthalene moth balls to prevent wax moths from infesting frames that are stored for the winter. No reason for the statement was given, probably because everyone but me knows the reason. Can you enlighten me on the rationale, and also what I should do now that mine are sealed up with naphthalene? Thanks for your help.
Noah Gretts
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Noah, naphthalene and beeswax have a high affinity for each other—much more so than paradichlorobenzene or PDB(brand name Para-moth), the labeled and approved recommended wax moth stored equipment treatment. Beeswax locks on to naphthalene and hangs on to it strongly, which means that it stays in the beeswax and will have the same repellent and possibly pesticide effect on any honey bees that are exposed to it. This, in turn, means that you may have messed up. If you live in a location that has a winter where wax moths are not active, then you may want to experiment and take your frames out of contact with the naphthalene, place them outside and air them out so to speak. See what they smell like in spring.
If they have any hint of naphthalene smell before you want to place them in a colony, then they will not be accepted by the bees. Or, realize that this was a learning moment and plan to start over with new foundation now.
Q Re-using Comb
Last fall I realized some of my bees had not stored much honey for winter and I thought I had a lot of capped brood.... As it worked out, there was little or no stored honey and the “capped brood” were dead cells that had not hatched. I have read that with AFB there is an odor and other signs of the disease. There was absolutely NO odor or stingy dead larvae, etc. The cells were simply dry and empty. The colony was in decline as the winter set in and I suspect it will be dead in the spring. Can you give me some suggestions as to the cause of this problem?
This prompts a second question... when cleaning up frames, how much debris will the bees tolerate? I was given some supers; there are some which show similar “not hatched,” capped brood, some have water damage, some wax moth damage and some of the frames have (very) dark drawn comb. Should that be taken out?
Rusty
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Rusty, the capped cells of brood were “dry and empty”? That usually doesn’t happen. No dead or decaying bodies or residue is incredibly unusual. (However, parasitic mite syndrome (PMS) sometimes mimics these conditions.) Honey bees are exceptional cleaners and rebuilders generally. If these were frames from a dead colony that you owned and knew what may have caused them to die (and it wasn’t American foulbrood), I would say reuse them. But, this is a bit weird and foundation is cheaper than package bees, so I would replace them all. I would not use any frames/comb that held someone else’s brood. The chance of any of several diseases is too great to gamble.
Get rid of the old, dark comb as well, as it is a disease, pesticide and fungus reservoir.
The Classroom February 2012
by Jerry Hayes
Q Crystallization in the Comb
This is Seven Golden Stars, a honey distributor. While working with our honey we encountered a problem. Our problem is with our comb when we bottle it with honey. The honey begins to crystallize in the comb. We know that honey is supposed to crystallize, but we want to know how to prevent the honey in the comb from crystallizing. We would appreciate your help. Thank you
Seven Golden Stars
Karina
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Some honeys, because of sugar ratios, try to balance these sugars by precipitating out the sugar as crystals. It doesn't make any difference if the honey is in the original comb or extracted and not heated or treated in any way. The only way to retard this sugar balancing by crystallization is to heat the honey above the melting point of beeswax and "melt" starter sugar crystals that facilitate this process. In other words, there is nothing you can do without destroying the comb to heat the honey or melt the crystals. You need to identify the beekeepers and nectar source of the comb honey. This could be a simple mistake by your comb honey supplier or the comb honey was unloaded on you. Caveat Emptor.
Q Can It Get Any Worse?
I was encouraged to contact you by my beekeeping mentor Jim Whitlock of Peterson, MN. I am 16 years old and have been keeping bees on a small scale for three years. Last year I had some honey ferment. I think it fermented primarily because I had extracted a fair amount of uncapped comb. A few of the frames, however, were completely capped but fermented. This year I have found a significant amount of capped fermented honey. My production this year is well below 45 lb. per hive, and I am even more discouraged by finding so much of it fermented.
I lost 30 out of 37 hives last winter and then invested in 20 nuc colonies this spring, as well as some queens. I lost 10 hives over the summer. I know I didn’t feed enough fumagillin last fall. This spring I fed sugar syrup I made with organic cane sugar and put some Nozevit-plus and fumagillin in the syrup. I used Hopguard and Apiguard to treat for varroa. I also fed Mega Bee patties with Honey-B-Healthy in the spring.
I’m wondering if you have any advice or suggestions or could refer me to resources that might help improve my results. Someone suggested that I look into some USDA program which might help me cover my financial losses. Do you know who I might contact to learn more about that?
Thank you for any advice you can offer.
Yours,
Karl J. Weissing
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Hello Karl. Let me see if I can give you some insight to your challenges. These are not necessarily perfect answers. Sorry.
Honey bees, of course, do their best to evaporate the excess water from nectar as it makes this part of the journey to being honey. This requires that the air around the honey can absorb this excess moisture. And, of course, as temperatures increase it makes more room for moisture to be incorporated into the Relative Humidity (RH) of the hive and ultimately the ambient RH atmosphere outside of the colony. Sometimes the RH of the atmosphere inside the hive and the ambient RH outside the hive simply cannot absorb any more moisture. As a result, the bees ‘give up’ and are willing to gamble, to anthropomorphize, and cap the high moisture honey simply because they don’t know what else to do. This is one of those Darwinian moments. Will this colony have made the right collective decision and this honey will last through a long fall, winter and spring until the next flowers bloom? If it gets cold quickly and the high moisture honey is cooled or frozen so fermentation stops in the hive, they might be OK. If not and it ferments in the comb, then this food supply is ruined and they will die by starvation. It is discouraging no doubt. Some honey seasons (such as last season in the Midwest) are so rainy that the bees have a very tough time removing enough moisture from nectar to reach that magic 18% moisture level that will delay or prevent fermentation.
Don’t harvest uncapped honey any more. You might also try providing more air circulation in the spring and summer with ventilated inner covers and use screened bottom boards set on cement blocks. There are several different models sold by bee supply companies.
I have no perfect answer regarding better colony survival except to try some other queens with different genetics, preferably from bees that have proven themselves by overwintering in Minnesota already.
I think using Apiguard is great. Hopguard kills exposed phoretic mites and can be used successfully in that way when there is little or no brood. Feeding back pure clear sucrose is a good idea if honey is fermenting in the comb. Fumagillin is good for Nosema if you have it. It takes a toll on the bees themselves, so be sure you follow label directions. It does not always control Nosema consistently, so be aware.
Contact your county USDA FSA office. They can tell you about programs designed for beekeepers.
Hang in there! It is bound to get better.
Q Wax Moths in Colorado
I have recently had a wax moth invasion of the extra supers that I have stored in my garage. Can you recommend the best way for me to store the remainder of my supers now that I have extracted the honey from them? Thanks for you wisdom.
Brian VanIwarden
Canon City, Colorado
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Yes, wax moths are everywhere in all regions in ‘summer’. Until you can store outside in a nice cold fall/ winter Colorado you can: 1) Put the frames in a large as you need trash bag and place them in a chest freezer. 2) Stack the supers crisscross at on top of each other at 90 degrees and place a large high watt light bulb at the top, bottom and middle. Wax moths don’t like light. It is repellent. 3) Purchase the chemical ‘paradichlobenzene’ from most any beekeeping equipment distributor and follow label directions. 4) After whatever you have chosen above, put them outside (preferably in a mouseproof shed or container) when you start having consistently cold (below 50 F) weather and go watch TV until April. Wisdom is the function of failure and remembrance.
Q Chemical-Free Bee Hives
As always, thanks for all that you do for the beekeeping world. There are a "few" beekeepers in today's world who do not intentionally introduce chemicals into their hives and have not for several years now (including myself here at Lone Star Farms) and have had great success raising bees. For a few years now, I have heard the cry, "Save The Bees" and most of what I see are beekeepers subjecting their bees to harmful pesticides and other harsh chemicals, not to mention polluting the wax and other hive products.
My question to you is: Since all beekeepers have access to queens and bees from breeders who do not use chemicals in their hives, why do the majority of beekeepers continue to buy and raise their bees in a polluted environment?
I believe that all beekeepers who are now using chemicals in their hives should make a "New Year’s Resolution" to themselves. At the beginning of the new year, they will refrain from placing chemicals into their hives. By doing so they will have stronger bees and cleaner bee products. They need to requeen their hives with queens from a breeder who raises their bees without the use of chemicals.
I hope that you can answer this question for me because It is beyond me why anyone would, intentionally poison their bees when in today's world, it is not necessary. Thanks Jerry and I hope that you have a great new year.
Dennis Brown
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It is all education Dennis. Plus, the labeled chemicals put into colonies do not immediately kill the bees. Without some immediacy, most people don’t think too deeply. If half of all the bees died in your colony every time you put in a chemical strip, mite treatment that would get your attention. But that is not what happens. It is slower and chronic--kind of like eating fast food every day and then complaining 20 years later that it caused heart trouble and resulted in your bypass surgery.
Q Hive-Top Feeder
Jerry, I hope all is well with you! As always, your section is the first thing I turn to when I get American Bee Journal, so keep up the great work. You always have very insightful and useful tips and information. Question for you. I live in the Pacific northwest and have been feeding my bees via top feeders (the kind you pour a couple gallons into the reservoir) on top of the inner cover. Well, the bees have consumed all the feed and starting to settle down for the winter. Is it best to take the feeders off the hive? I am not sure what to do. On the one hand, I could see where the natural venting might dry moisture from the hive and be good, but also it’s a big space that is an air pocket.
Any thoughts on what to do would be great. We have 10 hives in this condition.
Mike Quinn
Brown Owl Lodge Honey
Woodway, WA
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Good Morning Mike. Thank you for the classroom compliment. It is all a collaborative effort with good folks like you.
Well, there are a few possibilities in my mind:
1. Leave it on. I am assuming that there is a lid on it. As you say, it gives some upper ventilation.
2. Leave it on as you may have to/want to feed in late winter early spring anyway.
3. Leave it on full of syrup. Nothing else to do.
4. Take it off and then maybe put it back on later. Honey bees don't heat the whole hive space just the cluster, so I don't think keeping it on or off is a problem. If I have a vote, leave it on.......full of syrup.
Q High Moisture Honey
I have taken some honey off and it is capped. It reads 20%. Will it not spoil? Everyone says that if it is capped, then it is good. Is this true?
Thank you,
Maynard Martin
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No, you are on your way to mead or vinegar. Anything below 18% and you are okay. If it is warm, it will ferment above 18%. If it is humid enough, the bees evaporate as much as they can and then just give up and cap it. Keep it cool or frozen to retard fermentation.
There is no easy way to remove moisture from honey unless you are a commercial beekeeper or packer who owns equipment that will drive off a percent or two of moisture without ruining the honey. Some beekeepers have had luck crisscrossing the supers of honey in a small heated room with a dehumidifier.
Q Upper Entrances
I stumbled on an article you wrote about Excluders and Upper Entrances recently (http://www.beesource.com/point-of-view/jerry-hayes/queen-excluder-or-honey-excluder/) as I was researching solutions for some of the challenges I have been having and/or trying to be more efficient.
Long story short, since this article is 25/26 years old, I wanted to know if you had any significant change in your opinion on the close the bottom (3/8” drone escape), entrance over the queen excluder method. What you wrote makes good sense – but I know things change! And I REALLY like the fact that you tested it!
I am in central Maryland and have a very early flow we have to take advantage of – it shuts off most years by early to mid-June. We have to have them rolling early, and if they swarm, no honey crop. I will be managing about 150 hives – so the more efficient and effective the system, the better.
Jason
A
Actually, I was pretty good looking in 1985 and the world was my oyster. Almost 30 years later it is fun looking backwards a bit, but only for directional reasons moving forward. The only thing after this time is to lose the 3/8" plastic cone drone escape and simply close the original bottom entrance down to one that leaves a small (one or two bees at a time) 3/8" opening. Nothing else is different. But, also realize that this has not been adopted by the beekeeping community because it is different than standard design and doesn't give back a ton of honey. It appears to be better, but not amazingly better.
Q Varroa Development Time
I have been trying to understand the fact that the mites prefer drone bees over the workers and some recommend using drones to draw out the mite population and then freezing them as a control method. Is there a correlation between bee size and mite infestation, and bee size independent of drone vs worker? (I'm thinking of the possibility of trying to reduce worker size to minimize infestations. African honey bees (AHB) seem to have a better tolerance to mites from what I have read; is this also possibly a function of them being slightly smaller?)
Regards,
William Masterton
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It is not size but developmental time. Drones take approx. 24 days to develop and emerge and workers 21. Varroa like/need and bit more time to develop to emerge as mature varroa and 24 is better than 21. In the recent past small-cell comb was explored as a varroa control. It made smaller worker bees. Not effective though.
Africanized honey bees tolerate mites a bit better because when the varroa population gets too high, they simply abscond and leave the varroa and other junk behind. Tough to make honey when the bees are leaving all the time. I hope that helps.
Q Late Swarm
I received your name from Shane Unruh as somebody who might be able to answer my bee questions. About 1 & 1/2 weeks ago (September) we collected a cluster of Italian bees from a tree branch here in our yard. We put them in a new BeeMax hive which includes top, bottom, two hive bodies with frames and BeeMax top feeder. Now the question is: Do I continue to feed them sugar water at a 1-2 ratio till spring? Will the bees learn to rely on feeding and not go out foraging? I had no drawn out comb or honey to feed them and honey is quite expensive to buy for feed. By the way, these are my first bees.
Thanks
Daryl Unruh
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Daryl, you certainly collected a late swarm. Unusual. Since you are in Missouri, you need 50+ pounds of stored honey to make it through a Missouri winter. Were you able to put them on honeybee comb or just foundation? If on comb, you are in better shape as the queen can start laying sooner. If not, let's hope they can build enough comb before it gets very cold.
There is an old rhyme, "A swarm in May is worth a load of hay, a swarm in June is worth a silver spoon, a swarm in July isn't worth a fly." All to say, it takes months for a colony to build up to a level to make it through winter. What a swarm in September is worth is not much. Give it a shot and feed, feed, feed— sugar syrup (2 parts sugar, to 1 part water) and see what happens.
Q Capped Honey & Honey VS. Sugar for Health
Here in Northeast Wisconsin it was exceptionally hot and humid this past July. This seemed to impact the amount of capped honey in the hives. Because the air was already highly saturated with moisture, even through the evening, the bees seemed to have difficulty getting the moisture reduced down to the required 18% before they could cap it. Without a working natural dehumidifier, they seemed to bring in less nectar. This leads me to the question: How do bees do it in the Southern States where the temperature and the humidity are higher for longer periods?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I explain to customers that honey is a simple sugar, vs. the processed cane and beet sugars; the body is able to break down and incorporate honey into the blood stream, without having to sacrifice any proteins from within. This is not so with processed sugars, as they deprive the body of those proteins. Honey is a simple sugar, because the bees break it down for us, using the enzymes in their honey stomach. I'm trying not to get too technical, but provide an adequate response. Thank you Jerry.
Ken
Green Bay, WI
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Good Questions Ken. As for temperature and humidity, remember that the states in the Deep South are not regions with temperate climates such as Wisconsin. We in Florida do not have a winter like you. Certainly we have cold snaps, but being a lot closer to the equator and surrounded by water, we have mild temperatures, sometimes in the 70-80's in November and December, with spring coming in January in North Florida. Because of this, the plants in our environment are not hurrying up to sprout, bloom and reproduce in a few months. We have a few flushes of things early and late, but summer is really hot and most flowers stop blooming. Summer for us is a down time generally where bee populations drop because resources, pollen and nectar are in short supply. Not a lot of honey is being capped. Our situation and circumstances are different. However, high moisture honey is a routine problem for some southern beekeepers. The commercial southern beekeepers have learned to how efficiently dehumidify honey and use a variety of methods varying from simply heating it to running it through sophisticated honey dryers.
Honey is pre-digested if you will. The complex sugars have been "inverted" and made molecularly simpler by the addition of enzymes by the bees as they collect the nectar. Our bodies require fewer B-vitamins to convert these simple sugars into energy. We don't use proteins; we use vitamins, primarily the B complex of vitamins to change the carbohydrates into energy. The fewer B-vitamins used to convert a complex sugar into energy, the more we have for other cellular energy needs. Let me know if this makes sense.
The Classroom January 2012
by Jerry Hayes
(excerpt)
Q A Stinky Situation
We are new to the hobby of beekeeping and this will be our hive’s first winter. The hive has been established for about eight months now. For the past few weeks I have smelled a sour smell from the hive, but thought nothing of it, attributing it to the fig tree with so many fallen figs next to the hive. It is apparent now though that the bees are discarding larvae onto the ground. The larvae are white when they are on the ground and do not have spots or any other markings on them. From some of the research I have done, it seems as if the hive has EFB, but I would appreciate your opinion of what is the matter and some possible treatments.
A
I am assuming that you live someplace in the Southern US because of your “fig” tree reference. Honey bee colonies drag, pull, and yank out larvae for only a few reasons. 1) Lack of resources. Not enough pollen in particular is coming in to fuel brood rearing and they can’t feed them and sustain brood rearing, so they stop and pull them out instead of leaving them in to rot. 2) The larvae have died at this stage of development prematurely. Usually this is a result of improper application of varroa mite treatments or pesticides brought into the hive by foragers exposed or the nectar or pollen they are collecting and feeding to growing larvae. 3) Cold or chill damage. If you had an early cold snap, there may not have been enough workers to protect, cover and warm this developing brood.
European Foulbrood (EFB) is a bacterial infection causing the larvae to decompose within the cell. The larva could not be removed in one intact white larva. The sour smell could be from decaying dying brood or adults from a variety of reasons. It is hard diagnosing digitally. Take a closer look and get your honey bee disease book photos out.
Q Short But Sweet
Jerry, is high fructose syrup a good bee feed?
Thanks
Daryl
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Real bee-stored honey is better than sucrose syrup, which is better than HFCS (corn syrup) which is better than nothing.
Q Competing Buzz?
My bees in south Philadelphia have me stumped. This is their first season in this location on the roof of a fine restaurant. After a fair season of production the bees are now slowing down their harvest. Recently, they have been attacking the air intake fan of the neighbor’s HVAC system. The bees have been sucked in and killed in such great numbers that the filter is getting clogged and tripping the breaker. Now the chef wants to move them to his other restaurant a few doors down. It is one continuous roof, so the bees would not have to go to ground level first to do this. It is not practical to move them off the roof and then back a few weeks later. Can I wait until November when the bees are in cluster and move them, hoping they won’t get as confused? Why do you think they are attacking the fan? Any suggestions that would help me to keep the bees at their original site?
Thanks
Trey Flemming
Urban Apiaries
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Trey, the only reason I can think of for the bees being attracted to the air intake is the noise, movement, vibration associated with it. It may be a defensive issue, but I’m not sure. Could the air intake be screened externally to stop this at the source? I hope that the fan hasn’t eaten too many bees going into winter cluster.
You can wait until it gets cooler to move the bees when they are clustered. But, and there is always a but, any excessive bumping and bouncing could dislodge the cluster and if it is too cold, they may not be able to regroup and reorganize and could freeze to death. If you are successful with the initial move and there are subsequent warm days, any of the older bees that are still imprinted on the old site may still go there, but being winter, they will freeze and be replaced eventually with new members.
Q Oh What Tangled Webs....Varroa Screen On Solid Bottom Board
Hi Jerry, I have been a hobby beekeeper for 10 years or so. I keep an average of 14 colonies. This past year I put screens above my bottom boards to help control mites. I check my colonies just before winter. I put on pollen, check the brood and make sure that they have adequate food supplies. I have a fair success in overwintering. In checking my hives I discovered that I have an infestation of wax moths between the screens and the bottom boards. No sign above the screens or in the hives. Not sure that the screens helped for mites so am wondering if I should get rid of them. Thanks for a great column and the help you dish out to the hobby community.
Doug
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Doug, wax moths and small hive beetles can live and even pupate on hive debris which has collected on bottom boards. Screens help with varroa control for sure, but they really are not effective if the screen bottom board is placed over a solid bottom board. If the mites can fall a distance onto the ground, it is better than if they fall an inch or so onto a solid bottom where they can walk back up into the hive in summer. A screened bottom board without the solid bottom, of course, would eliminate the debris that the moths are using for food. But, winter’s freezing temperatures should take care of all these problems.
Q Two For One
We have two questions:
1) We may not be able to extract until November. What is the best way to store the honey supers in the meantime?
2) We made lots of sugar syrup last year that we did not use and has been stored in sealed plastic jugs at room temp. Can we use it this winter? Or should we make fresh sugar syrup?
Thanks!
Philippe and Dana Gerschel
Brooklyn, NY
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At some point you will want to warm up the supers/honey so you can actually extract it from the comb. Your goal is 80 degrees F or so. Until then, cool is better than hot and keeping the last wax moths and mice looking for a winter home away is a consideration. I would always leave supers on the colony or bring them into my unheated basement until warm-up time. Cold honey does not come out of the comb. Plan ahead how you will warm up supers. If left unextracted for a long time, sometimes the honey will granulate in the combs.
Your stored sugar syrup will be fine unless it has started to ferment or mold has started growing in it.
Q A Sticky Question
I would like to know if you can feed honey bees sorghum molasses instead of sugar water or a sugar syrup? Will it hurt them?
Thank you
Maynard
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If you live in the tropics or subtropics where the bees can get out just about every day to defecate, you could probably successfully feed sorghum or molasses instead of sugar. Molasses (of any kind) is what is left behind in the process of producing sugar. Sorghum molasses is a bit of a misnomer because it isn’t produced as a by-product of sugar production, but as simply sweet syrup itself from the sorghum plant. Sorghum syrup is dark because it has tannins, and particulates that are dark. Honey bees cannot digest these. This is “roughage” if you will for them. If they can fly daily and void, you can get by with this as a substitute or supplemental honey bee feed. If they can’t fly because of cold weather, this roughage builds up in their intestines and facilitates Nosema growing and other gut organisms. Let’ say you ate a pound of cabbage, broccoli and brussel sprouts and you couldn’t get to the bathroom. At some point you will be in discomfort, and may embarrass yourself. It is the same with the honey bees confined for weeks or months because of winter. They may be forced to defecate in the hive. Pure, clear honey or sugar syrup is best to feed under these prolonged confinement conditions.
The Classroom- December 2011
by Jerry Hayes
The October Classroom had my take and calculations on why 8 or 9 frames in a 10 frame super would always produce less honey. Yes, the cells may be longer, but this did not make up for the lost frame(s). There was quite a lot of response. Some said my math was off. Some said my math was fine, but my logic was off. (How Rude) A few said it made sense. Here are some of the responses:
1) Jerry, I have converted some supers over to 8-frame instead of 9-frame. For me I could care less if they held the same amount of honey because I can always add supers. The real advantage for me is the fact that if the 8-frame is drawn out my chain uncapper will remove all the cappings. With 9 frames many times, even when the frames are capped, some of them are not drawn out far enough to get with a knife or an uncapper. I have not done any exact comparison on which super will hold the most, but I believe that the 9-frame does seem to weigh a bit more.
Charlie Parton
Maryville, TN
2) Hi Jerry, I tried the 9-frame idea 30 yrs ago and didn't care for it. I'm not sure where you came up with the cell length numbers used in your analysis of the capacity of the combs. My observation has been that the bees draw the cells out until there is the standard bee space between the combs. Therefore, the only difference between 10/9/8 frames in a super is the number of beespaces between the combs. To be exact, there is also one less cell base (foundation) thickness for each comb removed. The increase in super capacity for one less comb would be equal to one bee space between frames, or ~ 3/8" x 8" x 17" = 51 cubic inches = .03 cubic feet = .225 gal. Less than a qt/frame for a deep.
This is not worth the hassle, unless one desires deeper cells for easier uncapping. Of course, there is 10% less equipment to purchase and assembly cost. Also, 10% labor savings when blowing bees, uncapping, loading extractor, unloading and placing frames back into supers, etc. On a large scale, all that could be significant.
All that labor savings is offset by time spent throughout the year re-spacing frames in the super every time it is manipulated. There are many factors other than simple "capacity" to consider, including honey flow size and hive moving frequency. Each beekeeper must decide for himself if it works. But the answer to the initial question is less than a qt/deep super for each frame removed.
Terry Holcomb
T-H Apiaries
Walnut Creek, CA
3) Hi Jerry, I read your 8 vs 9 calculations: arithmetic seems fine, but I dispute your logic. You will get about 30 of these. If I'm right, and the first one in, send me the XXL t-shirt with the big Florida Orange.
You worked from the inside out. Think about negative space. I will assume that in a strong honey flow the bees will cap all combs leaving a uniform bee space between faces and super sides. Nine frames have ten bee spaces, eight frames have nine. I will call bee space 3/8" or .76 cm. A medium depth frame has a comb face of about 13 cm x 43 cm. 13 x 43 x .76 = 424 cubic centimeters. 16% moisture honey is about 1.4 g/cc. 1.4 x 424 = 602 g or about 1 1/3 lbs more honey in the eight-frame mediuim depth super.
The last time I looked into it, I was getting about 37 lbs average from medium depth supers, so I see no significant issue here one way or the other. You are the kind of guy who is going to run out next spring and put out 100 supers with 8 and 100 with 9 and weigh them full (tare for the ninth frame!) to prove the shortcomings of abstract thinking like this. I like to run 8 frames over an excluder for ease of uncapping and because I can store my extracting comb off the bees without chemicals if I allow no pupal cases or pollen in them. I imagine most larger beekeepers would place more value on versatility and prefer 9 frames everywhere.
David
4) Jerry, regarding the question you end your October column with ...while it seems that by the numbers you get more honey in a nine-frame super than an eight-frame super, I believe it is an example of our rational minds leading us astray.
Think of it this way...you have a given volume of space. The bees are going to fill it up with comb and they will fill the comb with honey. The only space they will not fill is the bee space between the combs. This is true whether you are using eight frames or nine. Since the volume of the cavity being filled by the bees is constant, I would argue that 8-frames will always provide more space for the bees to build comb and store honey, thus providing more honey in the end. This is simple because with eight frames you have fewer pieces of wood and metal (or plastic) taking up room within the given volume of space (the ninth frame) and you have one less bee space between the combs. To focus on the number of combs and cells rather than the volume of the cavity that the bees will fill with comb and honey and the physical materials that will fit into this given space allows one to get lost in the "numbers" and creates the illusion of 9-frames providing more honey storage.
Bees be with you,
Ross Conrad
Dancing Bee Gardens,
Middlebury, VT
5) Hi Jerry, I have followed "The Classroom" for many years and have learned much from it. It's a strong feature in the ABJ. I hope you find this interesting... it seems the debate is still going on.
Dick LaForge
Eureka, CA
Re: The Classroom, October 2011 8-Frame Vs. 9-Frame Supers
Well, you asked what we think. I think you have a math error. The same factors that allow 9 frames to hold more than 10 allow 8 frames to hold more than 9.
You calculated an increase of 8,000mm of cell length for a frame in an 8-frame super. Then, you compare this to the loss of an entire frame containing 25,000 mm of cell length. You are comparing the increase in one frame to a loss in the entire super. Actually, in an 8-frame super, there is 8 x 8,000 = 64,000 mm extra cell length. So, there is an increase in capacity in an 8 frame super of 39,000 mm of cell length.
I did my own calculations, in a different way: The inside width of a super is 14.75 inches, or 37.46 cm. The bee space is let's say 5/16 inch, or .80 mm
I assume that the bees can build out the cells until there is only the bee space between frames and between the outside frames and the wall. I'm ignoring wax volume.
Looking at the width:
10 frames means 11 bee spaces 11 x .80 cm = 8.80 cm of bee space
9 frames means 10 bee spaces 10 x .80 cm = 8.00 cm of bee space
8 frames means 9 bee spaces 9 x .80 cm = 7.20 cm of bee space
Since the area of the frames is always the same, fewer bee spaces means there is more room for honey.
10 frames: 37.46 cm - 8.80 cm = 28.66 cm width of honey, 2.87 cm/frame
9 frames: 37.46 cm - 8.00 cm = 29.46 cm width of honey, 3.27 cm/frame
8 frames: 37.46 cm - 7.20 cm = 30.26 cm width of honey, 3.78 cm/frame
A frame is 2 cells wide, so the 9-frame cells are .20 cm longer than the 10-frame cells. The 8-frame cells are .25 cm longer than that.
Comparing the "width of honey" numbers, the 9-frame super can hold 2.8% more than the 10- frame super. The 8-frame super can hold 5.6% more than the 10-frame super.
Assuming honey density of 1.50 gm/cubic centimeter (cc) allows us to calculate the theoretical maximum capacity of honey supers. I measured the inside of a medium frame to be 43.2 x 13.1 cm = 566 square cm.
10 frames: 28.66 cm x 566 square cm = 16,220 cc, x 1.50 = 24,300 gm honey
9 frames: 29.46 cm x 566 = 16,670 cc, x 1.50 = 25,000 gm
8 frames: 30.26 cm x 566 = 17,120 cc, x 1.50 = 25,700 gm
Converting:
10 frames: 24,300 gm = 24.3 Kg, x 2.20 lb/Kg = 53.6 lb
9 frames: 25,000 gm = 25.0 Kg, x 2.20 lb/Kg = 55.1 lb
8 frames: 25,700 gm = 25.7 Kg, x 2.20 lb/Kg = 56.6 lb
The increase in capacity with fewer frames is not large. I'd say the major advantages are 10 or 20 % less frame handling, easier uncapping, and less honey lost in uncapping. Also, the bees need to produce 1132 or 2264 square cm less of capping wax.
Of course, reality can be different. The real test of any advantage of fewer frames is to use them and weigh them.
6) First off, I want to thank you for all I have learned over the years by reading ABJ and your column. I currently run 9 frames in my supers, but after reading your column I came to realize that storage loss of 8 frames was actually the way to go. When I read the column, the math didn't quite look right. You calculated a 17,000 mm loss in storage of the 8 frame super. It sounded good, but you took into account a one frame difference as apposed to an overall gain. The way I see it is like this: 8 frames x 2000 (cells/frame) x 16.5mm = 264,000mm. 9 frames x 2000 (cells/frame) x 12.5mm = 225,000mm. That would actually give a net gain to the 8-frame super of 39,000 mm. This just in time for my fall flow.
Thanks for all,
Blue Skies!
Jim
Q Coconut Oil for Varroa Control?
Jerry, I just read your article on coconut oil and varroa in the Oct. ABJ. You based your skepticism on the lack of controlled study and then went to prove your point without using a controlled study. What happened in the untreated hives?
Kurt Johnsen
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Good Morning Kurt. Was this a study suitable for the Journal of Apicultural Research (JAR)? Absolutely not! I think I said in the article that I simply wanted to see if it lowered the number of varroa mites in X number of colonies. It was advertised as a great way to do this. And it didn't. It was only controlled as to my basic preliminary question, did it lower varroa mite levels? If it had been amazing, we could have expanded the study and double-blinded it and expanded the number of colonies with the same number of controls etc.,etc. But it was so poor I thought I would share the caveat emptor with beekeepers.
Anecdotally, of all the colonies in the yard another 35 that were not treated with anything at all, two died of whatever.
Q Neem Oil for Mite Control?
Mr. Hayes, I asked Dr. Jamie Ellis if they have experimented using neem oil mixed with sugar syrup in eradicating mites, varroa mites, and he said no they have not, but he referred your name and said that you are familiar with neem products.
A year ago I did add 1-2 drops of neem oil to sugar syrup, to see if this might eradicate or minimize pests. The feeding was only one jar and I stopped as not knowing if this would kill the whole hive, as I do not know much, i.e., how worker bees feed the queen. Tell me what you know?
Thank you,
Chandra
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Good Morning Chandra, Dr. Ellis gives me way too much credit for knowing miscellaneous stuff. I can't remember what I had for breakfast, but I do remember all sorts of other things:)
If memory serves me correctly, Neem oil has been experimented with for varroa control for many years without getting to the point that it was reliable and safe. The studies I remember mixed various concentrations of Neem oil and emulsified it in water and sprayed it on bees with phoretic (exposed) varroa mites. The treatment was 6 applications, sprayed on the colony, over a 4- day period. Varroa control was upwards of 90%. Honey bee mortality was around 10% (not good) and it shut down the queen's laying ability (not good) and killed them (not good) and had a detrimental effect on brood and brood rearing (not good). The question has been which of the many components of Neem oil is responsible for varroa mortality. The hope was to identify that or those so they could be used to control varroa more efficiently rather than spraying the whole colony and not have so much bee, queen and brood mortality.
Lots of materials kill or dislodge varroa mites. Finding products which do not harm the adult honey bees, queens or drones is the goal. In fact, one can get pretty good phoretic varroa control by spraying the colony with innocuous distilled water every few days because it heightens grooming behavior, but this may be not practical for all beekeepers and thus is not on the varroa to-do list.
Feeding Neem does not do much for varroa, but does negatively affect all life stages of honey bees at higher doses and at lower doses does nothing.
Q High-moisture Honey
Hi Jerry, I have some honey from this year that is 19% moisture. Is 19% in the danger zone of the honey fermenting?
Thanks,
Phil
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Yes. If cold no, if warm, you are on your way to not only being a beekeeper, but also a brew master!
Q Winter Frame Storage
Jerry, I have been reading all about storing frames for the winter and trying to prevent wax moth damage. Some store them outside with a screen on the bottom and top to keep the mice out. The theory here is that they will be in the light and cold weather and the wax moths hate that.
Some beekeepers keep them in the garage and spray them with some kind of chemical or they use moth crystals.
Could you please give me a recommendation of how you would best store them. I have about 30 to 40 frames, so sticking them in a freezer is not a practical solution. HELP!
Thank you,
Mark
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Stacking the boxes with the frames in them, crosswise, alternating them back and forth on each other in a location that gets the full effects of winter cold is the easiest. Wax moths do not like light, so having the large open spaces with the boxes stacked this way help. You can also use one or more light bulbs dangled down in and amongst the stack to add more light if you need it. Stacking them in a perfectly sealed stack and using Paradichlorobenzene wax moth crystals, not naphthalene, according to label directions works well if storage outside or in a unheated shed or garage is not an option. If you only have 30-40 frames that is only 3-4 boxes, so this should be easy.
One caution: Make sure if you store frames in a plastic sack with paradi-chlorobenzene that it cannot be pierced or entered by wax moths, because then you may open the sack in the spring and discover a very unwanted present-expensive fishing bait!
Q Small Hive Beetles in Indiana
Dear Mr. Hayes, I am a beekeeper in southern Indiana. I recently was going through my hives and noticed a few black bugs in a super on one hive. In researching this, I am sure they were hive beetles. There were only a few of these, but I was concerned. I removed the super and did not find any down in the main hive. The question I have is: Should I be concerned since this is a strong hive? I ordered some beetle traps that I installed a week before I removed the super. Is this the only treatment option I have? The most I trapped and killed was 15 or so and I left the beetle traps in the main hive. Thanks for you time.
Dave Motsinger
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Good Morning Dave, you are actually the third person from Indiana to contact me about seeing what is assumed to be small hive beetles (SHB) in their colonies. I don't doubt it. There are lots of different kinds of beetles that many times live in a colonies of honey bees. Most SHB will die in a normal long, cold Indiana winter. They are coming from the environment to your colony of honey bees to stay warm and have access to food for themselves. It is really too late for them to reproduce by laying eggs and producing the real destructive culprit, the larva, but this is still possible if you have a warmer than normal fall. The beetle traps are good. Don't put any type of pesticide in the trap as it doesn't make the trap work any better and these products can jeopardize colony health. If we found only 15 SHB adults in a colony in Florida we would be happy! We start getting worried when it gets around 100:)
Q Queen Banking
Hi Jerry, I have a few questions that I can't seem to find the answers to anywhere. I'm raising a few queen bees each year. My problem is queen banking. How long can virgin queens be banked before their mating flight? How long can bred queens be banked and what is the best method of banking? Which is better, banking bred or virgin queens? The queens I breed here seem to be better, stronger laying queens than the ones I order, so I would like to bank a few. I enjoy your Classroom each and every month. Thank you very much for your work.
Charles Roberson
Ben Wheeler, TX
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Ben, keeping queens available for immediate use is a good idea. There is an expiration date on virgin queens from when they emerge until they "need" to mate. After a couple weeks confinement, they lose the desire and ability to go out and mate. Mated queens are best banked in a small nuc, so they can always be laying a little and leading a functioning colony. The pheromone profile is better if the queen is doing what a honey bee queen is supposed to do. There are a variety of ways to cage or confine queens individually on a comb face using queen excluder material and keep them functioning at a low level.
I think the best thing any beekeeper can do is keep nucs around. Nucs not only are a functioning small colony that can contribute a queen, but there are frames of brood and honey and beebread all for the taking. If you have a colony that is failing, you can take the 4-5 frames out of the nuc, plug them into the failing hive and voila!, no harm, no foul. I vote for as many nucs as you want.
Q future global food shortage?
This has nothing to do directly with honey bees. I just read a Food and Agriculture Organization (United Nations) report about a drop in global food production and how availability and cost is on the verge of a crisis. You can see people starving in Somalia every night on the 6 o'clock news. What do you think?
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What concerns me is that ‘we' all are at the mercy, if you will, of those who produce, process and transport our foods. In many cases we all have gotten very lazy agriculturally. Most people think food comes to a location called a "store" and if we have enough money, all is well. But, this attitude puts all of us in jeopardy, calorically, nutritionally and culturally.
Even those of us who grow a garden, have fruit trees or harvest food from the environment never totally depend on this for our complete supply. We may be on the brink globally with economics that mirror The Great Depression of the past. If this happens, access to food will be affected. Will transport, shipping and the logistical challenges continue or even be considered if no one has the means to purchase? Do we individually or collectively need to address the need for food production, a food reserve or long-term food storage as a valuable insurance policy?
Ask our struggling brothers and sisters in Somalia or Sudan what they would have done if they could have prepared in some way. Or, think of past history where millions died in China or Ukraine because someone decided that food could be a tool of control. Something to think about.
The Classroom - November 2011
by Jerry Hayes
(excerpt)
Q. Apiguard or Mite-Away
Hi Jerry - fantastic column - thank you for taking the time! I'm heading into my fall varroa treatment so am hot into research. I have 2 third-year hives. I found Randy Oliver's method for using only 25 g of Apiguard, but placing it between the two deeps. I am drawn to this because it lowers the dose. What do you think?
I've also been reading the threads on the internet about the Mite-Away Quick Strips. From what I read, I decided to wait until next year, read some more and then perhaps try this method.
Lastly, do I need to worry about how the bees fit (or not) into a two-deep hive after expanding to fill two deeps and two supers?
Thank you!
Roma
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Thanks for the compliment. It is appreciated. We did some of the testing here for Apiguard years ago for warm/hot weather treatments. What we found at 90+F temperatures is that the label directions and 50g were tolerated well with large populous colonies. As the material off gases, the thymol concentration irritates the colony and they start "fanning" which moves the vapor around and out and actually distributes it better for varroa control. In a smaller colony they do not have the collective strength, horsepower or bee wing power if you will, to move the product around and out and it can cause some of the colony to move to the outside front of the hive temporarily to ventilate better. The goal is to kill, damage, disable varroa and 50g is the labeled amount for FULL size colonies. Smaller colonies and especially nucs cannot tolerate 50g well. 25g would be more appropriate, but then you get into an independent decision of what is large and what is a small colony.
We also did some of testing of MiteAway Quick Strips. Waiting on this is a good idea.
The colony will expand and contract as needed. So "fit" is variable. The only caveat to all this is if you are in a heavily infested small hive beetle (SHB) region. Colonies treated with essential oils and acids release large amounts of stress pheromones, which attract SHB adults. If the colony is strong, they can adjust. If weaker, it can be compromised. You are asking good questions and thinking through treatments appropriately.
Q MOLASSES EXTRACT BALANCING ACT?
While recovering a swarm of bees, I fed them sugar water and molasses! It turns out that there are not any drowning bees in the hive top-feeders, and I have reduced it to: 1 teaspoon per gallon and a half. If it’s light brown, they do not drown. Second swarm does not have any drowning bees either. The clear color of the syrup is the problem! Molasses extract for bee feed is available. Is it all right to feed a low dose of molasses; it does stop the drowning
Thanks,
Mike
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Mike, I think you are just lucky. I am not sure what is in molasses extract, but be careful as it probably has some indigestible stuff in it that may make it a feed that is hard to overwinter on in the North. Sometimes it is good to experiment. Let’s see if the results are consistent and the bees are alive in April.
If colored syrup is what you are seeking, why not use a bit of food coloring to accomplish the same thing?
Q POOR GENES = LAZY BEES
Hi Jerry-- I was just reading your column in the latest ABJ, and realized I could ask you a question. I've been trying to find information elsewhere with no luck.
I have two hives, one a year old and one new this year. I checked them both a week ago, and there was NO honey to speak of. There is loads of capped brood, larvae and eggs in both, in some cases extending to the wooden edge of the frames. Not really any drone brood either, and just a few cells, here and there, of pollen. This was late August, which is almost past peak in some areas around here--Portland, Oregon. I still have loads of flowers blooming, and more bees on said flowers than I saw when it was blackberry season (the big collection flower for much of our area).
Although I've given up on any honey harvest for this year, I am still curious about the phenomenon. My bee mentor found an expert who said this is "typical" Italian bee behavior. He recommended confining the queen to the lowest box with an excluder, and feeding them ample sugar syrup in hopes of at least motivating some winter stores. The day after I did this, the upper (more populous) hive seemed ready to swarm-- bearding the front and crowding the main entrance airspace. In a couple hours it all settled down-- I don't think a swarm left, as I was watching pretty constantly. I feel good about the strength of these hives, and am willing to give ample feed, but remain confused as to what this behavior means and what I might expect in upcoming years?
A bit of history? I started my first hive with a package of Italians in spring of 2010, and had an ordinary, uneventful year with them. Fed them through the winter, they survived, and I spotted some low queen cells in May of 2011. I was nervous and excited, and managed a "controlled swarm", starting my second hive. That one has also progressed successfully into the summer. I must not have gotten all the queen cells, though, because I caught a swarm nearby shortly after, and gave it to a friend. My parent hive didn't seem too affected, but I was fairly certain the swarm came from there. In June, I managed to catch ANOTHER swarm that stopped through-- I checked both my hives, and again, neither seemed severely reduced, and had some honey and pollen stored. (Two weeks later THREE more swarms came through my yard, one medium, one small, and one that didn't actually land. I figured I must be on a bee highway of some sort.)
Mid summer I put the honey super on my older hive, but the bees have never even drawn out comb in it. I put an additional brood super on the lower, second hive, as they filled +/- 6 frames with brood, but again, they seem to care less, and have stayed at a constant population, more or less, in one super.
I am very confused by what is going on, and would like to continue beekeeping regardless of collecting honey. But, as I run a small Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) food network, I'd like to have some honey to put in my shares at the very least, and know that, ideally, bees are supposed to feed themselves through the type of relatively mild winters we have here in the Pacific Northwest.
Kelly
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I wish I could tell you quickly what is wrong or was wrong specifically. The thing I do know is whether or not you had enough honey bee population to draw comb from foundation, or go out and collect enough nectar to store as surplus. They were existing at a level below that required to make it through a Pacific Northeast winter. They appear to have been bringing in enough nectar and pollen resources to raise more bees that probably left by swarming leaving you without a large enough population to do what you wanted them to do. They were doing what they needed to genetically to spread themselves around time and again. To use a politically incorrect term these are "welfare bees”. You take care of their needs by supplementary feeding and other care, such as varroa treatments, to get them through winter and then they do the same thing the following year, which is nothing. You may have enough time (Sept) to get a new purchased queen from a reputable supplier and you may still have to feed to get them through this winter, but the new genetics may prove themselves better in spring. Or, you could let Mr. Darwin take over this winter and eliminate the weak and start over with new bees using packages and a good queen in spring. Or, you could keep feeding the colonies and keep things in the status quo. In my mind this is not typical Italian behavior. But I am not sure in our mongrel population what Italian behavior is any more. It is just poor genetics. Let me know what you decide.
The Classroom - October 2011
by Jerry Hayes
(excerpt)
Q His Bees Won’t Draw Out His Plastic Foundation
Here is one I haven’t seen you cover. I have over 100 frames with hard plastic foundation. These were put on late in the honey flow. All the bees did was track them up badly. The following year I put them back on and all the bees did was pull comb between the frames. I have found that no matter what you do with a frame that has plastic that isn’t pulled out the first year, the bees will never do it. I have painted beeswax on the bare plastic and the bees still ignore it. Do you any advice other than putting them in the burn pile?
Jim
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I have seen plastic frame, foundation combinations that the bees would not touch. The supposition is that the type, quality, grade of plastic used was “off gassing” a solvent or mold release that was repellent to the bees. Coating the entire plastic surface of the foundation with high quality fresh beeswax should have helped. But, obviously it didn’t. Also, remember that it takes a good honey flow or plenty of syrup feeding to induce comb construction. If you have had poor honey flows, it would be difficult to obtain good comb construction on plastic foundation. Most commercial beekeepers now use plastic foundation coated with beeswax, so this is obviously not a universal problem. Before you give up and pitch them, why not give them another chance during a good spring nectar flow.
Q Kitchen Chemistry
I am wondering how much essential oil should be added to sugar syrup for control of mites (how many drops of oils/gallon of syrup). I am assuming that if the mixture is too strong it will harm the bees, and am also wondering if the odor of the essential oils masks any of the pheromones that the queen uses to control the actions of the hive causing more problems for the hive? Also, is it advisable to use these oils? I am trying to avoid harsh chemicals for mite control if at all possible. Thank you.
Troy Mastin
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Troy, I do not know what the answer to your question is because there is little or no data on this. None of this is registered or labeled. Beekeeper “kitchen chemistry” is to be discouraged because it is inexact. When using chemical treatments without specific tested and approved directions, bad things can happen. That could be anything from “it didn’t work” to “it killed all the brood” or “it killed all the bees” and everything in between. Products such as Api-Guard and Api Lif Var that have data, and doses that are FDA and EPA approved are better. I applaud your effort to stay away from “strip” varroacides. Good idea. But, you don’t have to re-invent the wheel. All the work has been done for you.
The Classroom - September 2011
by Jerry Hayes
(excerpt)
Thank you for your very informative column. I have a question not addressed here before to my knowledge. I hope you can help or direct me to someone who can.
Are you aware of any research that has been done that would help us understand exactly what happens when there is a reaction in a person's body from a bee sting? I've heard many people say, "Oh, I'm allergic to bee stings." I wonder if it's always true? There seems to be different ways a sting or stings can affect the body. Do medications that someone may take affect a reaction to a bee sting?
My case in point. I have been into beekeeping now over 10 years and run a small commercial operation with my boys helping. At present we're running about 140 hives on pallets, selling nucs in the spring and producing two to three honey crops a year, depending on where we move our bees. My boys and I have always worn full bee suits and gloves whenever we work the bees, but we still get our share of stings throughout the year with the operation we run.
Over the past year I have noticed, not always but sometimes, that when I've gotten stung I get some phlegm in my throat that stays with me for awhile making me want to clear my throat over and over, but then it goes away. My airway is fine. Recently, however, I have had two episodes that got quite severe before clearing up. Last evening we were loading bees and it was hot and humid and after dark. I got stung a couple of times right before leaving, crawling around on the load, one of which was on my throat. While driving the truck I got exceedingly hot with various other reactions and felt like I was almost ready to pass out. I was praying hard and it gradually did subside. When we got home, I took some medicine and started feeling better.
I can't tell what's going on in my body. Does venom build up in your body? I don't know if it was a convergence of a number of factors that brought it on or is my body now saying it can't take bee venom at all? If I can't get a grip on this or learn to take something, I just might have to sell out!
I know you are not a doctor to whom this question may be best addressed, but any help you would know of would be appreciated.
Thank you,
David Simonson
A. David, sometimes it takes longer to get answers than one would think. Here is some information that I have found out for you. Dr. Dawn Sollee, Florida/ USVI Poison Information Center-Jacksonville and Dr. Shih-Wen Huang, Allergy Clinic at Shands Hospital, were very helpful with providing these general answers. However, since each person's health situation is different, you should consult an allergist about your specific post-sting reactions to determine the best solution for your individual case.
Q. When a honey bee stings someone, they will experience pain, some localized swelling and redness at the site. Sometimes people refer to this as an allergic reaction. I thought an allergic reaction was different involving the whole body in some way.
A. You are correct. This is not an allergic reaction. It is expected that a sting will produce localized pain, redness and swelling.
Q. Can you describe in concise terms what happens in a person's body when they are stung?
A. When the honey-bee worker stings, the stinger with venom sac are left behind lodged in the skin. The venom sac continues to pump venom through the stinger into the body and can empty itself within two minutes. The venom contains various components including: mellitin, phospholipase A/2, peptides, hyaluronidases, histamine and others. These compounds produce the local effects. Antibodies to the phospholipase A/2, hyalurnonidase and mellitin are what can produce anaphylactic (whole body) effects.
Q. I am assuming that there are various levels of immune response initially and over time or with subsequent stings.
A. The more a person is stung, the more antibodies are created and the more sensitization occurs.
Q. There seems to be differences in the ways that a sting or stings can affect the body. What makes the difference?
A. The size of the person in relation to the number of stings and volume of venom can be an issue. A person can have a severe reaction if they are stung numerous times at once. But, this and of itself does not mean they are allergic to bees.
Q. What are the true signs of an allergic reaction?
A. A whole body systemic reaction or anaphylactic reaction usually occurs within the first 15 minutes after a sting. Initial symptoms include: itching eyes, flushing, coughing. It may progress to a feeling of the tightening of the throat. This can be followed by wheezing, shortness of breath, nausea, vomiting and dizziness. Someone may even lose consciousness. If someone has true diagnosed honey-bee venom allergy, they should wear a medical alert bracelet or tag.
Q. Can someone be desensitized to stings in a medical setting?
A. Yes. Venom immunotherapy has been successfully used to prevent future sting reactions in hypersensitive people.
Q. Can some medications that a person is taking influence the reaction to a sting?
A. Yes. Ace inhibitors are prescribed to some heart patients and pain relievers called NSAID's, common ones are Celebrex and Motrin, can all make someone who was tolerating stings well into someone having major adverse reactions.
Q. Can someone who has tolerated stings over time, sometimes for years, all of a sudden change in response for the worse to a sting?
A. Absolutely. Over time the body can increase its sensitivity to the venom.
Q. What, if any, over-the-counter products should a person have at hand to treat the "normal" sting reaction? What preparations should a beekeeper have made for a worst-case scenario?
A. Diphenhydramine (an antihistamine) should be on hand to minimize the normal sting reaction. Acetaminophen or ibuprofen for pain and ice can help swelling. A person who has had a bad reaction in the past should consider having a doctor-prescribed epinephrine syringe on hand at all times.
Things to do if someone has been stung: Remove the stinger as quickly as possible. The longer the stinger is in the flesh, the more venom load from the sac is pumped in. Then, wash the area with soap and water. Apply ice to the area of local reaction. See medication suggestions above. If someone is having swelling in their throat, difficulty breathing, or you think they are having an allergic reaction, 911 should be called immediately.
The Classroom - August 2011
by Jerry Hayes
(full version)
Q GREASE IS THE WORD
Has anyone ever proven the efficacy of grease patties with essential oils and such? I know the literature is out there, but not much has been said of late I believe. Snake oil?
Ed Markus
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Data indicates that vegetable shortening patties (grease patties), by themselves, help with control of tracheal mites. But we hardly see tracheal mites anymore, so it may be a Darwinian kind of thing happening such that over the last 25 years the weak have died and the strong have survived. Or perhaps it is that the Varroa mite chemical controls
used have virtually eliminated tracheal mites. Essential oils in a vegetable-shortening patty may or may not do much for further tracheal mite control in the current picture.
This is not a varroa mite control strategy. Vegetable shortening doesn't do anything for varroa and unless you put in a significant amount of a proven essential oil that would not help much either. Dosages, release rates and quantity need to be exact to do much good. That is why we have registered and labeled products available.
Could you use vegetable shortening as the carrier for an essential oil-sure you could. But, then you would be re-inventing the wheel as Apiguard and Api Lif Var are already proven, registered and available for this use of essential oils for Varroa control.
Q SCREENED
BOTTOMS?
I am confused as to the value of screened bottom boards for Varroa destructor control. Dr. Calderone at Cornell University has published that screened bottom boards are ineffective and he recently told me that he no longer uses them. Additionally, a report published by Jean Pierre Chapleau in Quebec demonstrated no statistical difference in varroa counts with or without a screened bottom board. More recently in the March 2011 issue of ABJ, Roy Hendrickson recommends against screened bottom boards claiming that they are both "ineffective against varroa and detrimental to spring colony management."
Here in the Philadelphia, PA area, I have noticed in my own bees that hives that were over wintered with screened bottom boards do not rear brood along the bottom frames during the cool spring. However, many people, including you, recommend screened bottom boards for varroa control. Is there a regional difference to the value of screened bottom boards such that they are more effective in warmer areas (or during the summer) than they are in cooler areas? Thanks for your advice. I always enjoy reading the Classroom.
Vincent Aloyo
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Vincent, isn't that the allure of beekeeping, being confused, unsure and mentally/intellectually challenged? If it were easy, everybody would be doing it. If you look, you will find a variety of data that indicates screened bottom boards do or not do many things.
I am an old guy. Old guys have stories. That is why people tolerate us. Here is a story. When varroa mites first burst onto the scene smart PhD-types thought that these mites had traits and actions similar to "other" mites on plants and animals. These other mites, when separated from their host, would search around for another host and if they couldn't find one, would stop their search, stand still with some of their appendages extended, and go into what is called a Questing Stance waiting for something to walk by to grab, jump on and be carried along. So at that time in my mind, I envisioned varroa being knocked off, groomed off or otherwise being detached from adult honey bees stopping where they were and going into this Questing Stance. Whether on the comb surface or frames or even the solid bottom board in a busy colony, grabbing another bee easily seemed like a logical sure thing.
At that time, we were collecting live varroa mites for various research projects. We used powdered sugar to dislodge mites. When we had enough, usually several hundred, we would separate the mites from any powdered sugar residue. One of my staff brought me one afternoon, a large plastic tub 10" long 8" wide and 7" high that held several hundred live varroa mites. I was doing some desk administrative stuff at the time, so put the tub about 3 feet behind my desk on the carpeted floor. After about an hour and a half or so I started feeling that itchy, tickling funny feeling on my legs that one gets when you have something on your skin. The varroa mites had climbed up the 7" sides, down the 7" sides across my floor and started up my pant's leg! I was impressed with varroa mites and unimpressed with the Questing Stance. That is when the screened bottom board really made sense to me. I could see on a solid bottom that varroa, which get knocked off, bounced around in the normal course of events and wound up on this firm platform. Then, they could pick themselves up, dust themselves off and start all over again:)
Another quicker story. We did some comparison studies between small cell comb and regular comb and the bees raised in both and varroa levels. The story being shared around was that small cell comb helped reduce mite load and so we wanted to put data with the anecdotal reports. What we found was that initially small cell comb did reduce mite load, but when you compared data over 12 months, there was no statistical difference. Varroa seem to be able to change reproductive rates and adapt to different environmental challenges.
Data show screened bottoms help remove a lot of varroa mites that fall to the bottom of a hive. True. Data show over time varroa levels ramp up to match the loss. True. Data show in early cool spring weather hives with screened bottoms do not extend brood rearing to the bottom of combs close to the open screened bottom. This changes as the weather warms up and colonies adjust. True. Data show that varroa treatments of all kinds hurt, temporarily damage varroa mites and these can be removed from the colony as they fall to the bottom. In our area where we have brood rearing 24/7/365, I think making varroa work for everything they do is a good thing. In the north where brood rearing stops and varroa are phoretic for weeks or months, having a screened bottom would positively help in removing any mites that fall to the bottom of the hive.
The trade off of slower use of the bottom of the comb in early spring brood rearing is a reasonable one I think because they pick it back up when temperatures moderate. That's my story and I am sticking to it!
Q RUSSIANS AND DIVERSITY
I am a beginning beekeeper in California and have started my first two hives. I was very interested in Russian Bees. However, most suppliers in California have either stopped selling Russians outright or only do a hybrid Russian cross and there are very few of them. Most have just stopped selling Russians with no explanation. I was wondering if there was some reason the Russian bees' "popularity" seems to be waning?
My two new hives are now six weeks old. Everything was new-8 frame from Dadant and packages from CF Koehnen & Sons-placed side by side, same sunlight, feeding, protein, etc. One hive has drawn out 12-13 frames and I am thinking of adding a super. The other hive has drawn out 8 frames and I am wondering if this queen is up to par or should I replace her? Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Robert D. Michael
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The Russian project and many others that want to produce and distribute queens with varying degrees of hygienic behavior, especially those targeted towards varroa, are still quite active. I think hygienic queens are a solid part of IPM and a key element to work towards for fewer chemical introductions in the hive. Virgin honey bee queens mate with multiple drones outside the hive. These drones can come from the queen producer as s/he coordinates this important process. But Drone Congregation Areas (DCA) can also attract drones from other beekeepers' colonies, and drones from feral colonies. These drones may not have the genetics that enhance and stabilize the hygienic behavior of the Russian Queen, in this case. There is genetic dilution and genetic diversity in open mating. Getting and keeping consistent genetic traits in populations of honey bees is virtually impossible. Because of this, the Wow! factor of Russian Bees has also been diluted. I would take a look at the Russian Queen Breeders Association www.russianbreeder.org, and see who fits your needs and criteria.
The diversity in queens open mated with 20 to 40 drones is why you see diversity in your two colonies. As a rule of thumb, if you had 100 colonies 33 would be excellent, 33 would be mediocre and 33 would be terrible or dead. Honey bees are survivors and they have learned that this diversity means that under varying environmental factors, pathogens, pests, parasites and beekeeper mismanagement there will always be some that survive because of the diversity. There will be some genetic combinations that will allow a certain number of colony members to tolerate some kind of stress and they live. If the bees are isolated in an area/region/locale over time, they will become more genetically homogenous as they adapt to that small area, i.e. Russian Bees, Carniolans, Italians, etc. We don't do that this in this country. We send honey bees around all over the country and the world and as a result, we have bees that are adapted to commercial queen breeding, transportation and miticides. Not great, but it is what it is. Hang in there. You and the bees will be fine.
Q ANTS
I am having a major problem with large black ants (in Minnesota) that are getting into the beehive. When I fed the bees with feeder pails, there were large numbers of ants getting the sugar water that slopped on the top of the inner cover. I quit feeding, as it was not necessary by then, and put a screened top box on top of the hive for ventilation. When I checked the bees today, the top boxes were full of ants and ant eggs. I took the top boxes off for now, and went back to the usual inner cover and top cover. I found one anthill, dug it up, and spread poison in the hill and around it. My question is: How close do you think I can get to the beehives with the poison? I have been staying six feet away in the front, and four feet to the side and rear.
Second, is there any treatment you know of that would be safe for bees? I hate ants, and have to deal with the small ones in my own home, too.
Many thanks,
Dewey Hassig
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Dewey, so the ants were in the ventilation device safe and secure from the "bees". If I were an ant in Minnesota, I would do the same thing. What a great, safe, secure, protected, warm place to live. Whatever will kill an ant will kill or damage a honey bee. Ant baits that are in "bait stations" and not exposed to the direct outside environment would be my first choice. Anything else has a smaller margin of error. Be careful.
Providing hive stands with the legs of the stands placed in containers of mineral oil is another option.
Q MITE ZAPPER
First I want to thank you for answers to so many questions. The April Bee Journal had an article about a mite control (MITE ZAPPER) that uses a 12 volt battery. It sounds like it is the answer for mites, but I would like to know your opinions about it. I got their web site and it says about the same as what the Journal news release does.
Thank you,
Merl
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As part of an Integrated Pest Management (IPM) plan drone comb that facilitates drone production for attractiveness to Varroa mites and then removal is a great help in mite control. Historically, the capped drone brood is removed and frozen to kill varroa mites within those cells reproducing. The Mite Zapper simply eliminates removing the drone comb frame for freezing, opting instead for heat to kill the brood and thus the mites as well. Then, the colony will clean out dead brood and reuse the comb.
Q CHALKBROOD
A rural homeowner asked me to look at a colony that was untouched for approximately 5 years because the beekeeper passed away. It's no longer a strong colony, but how it made it through all the cold winters we have in Northeast Wisconsin is hard to believe. It probably could still keep going on its own. In trying to help it along and replace any rotting woodenware, etc., I notice some chalkbrood in some of the cells. Because of the chalkbrood, can I re-use the excess honey for consumption or for feeding bees? Can I reuse the good boxes and frames? Will freezing the honey, etc., eradicate the chalkbrood spores. The surface of the sealed honey was slightly moist. Is this anything to be concerned about?
Ken
Green Bay, WI
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Ken, immunity or sensitivity to chalkbrood is a genetic trait. Seeing a few cells in spring is also not unusual. Since they have survived for 5 years without major attention, this seems to indicate they are survivors, unless this is a case where the original bees died and the vacate hive was reoccupied once or more by a passing swarm.
I would be cautious on several different disease levels about feeding honey from one colony to another. Chalkbrood spores are tough and long-lived, so freezing won't do much. However, you can eat the honey yourself. It is almost organic! There would be no varroa treatment residues accumulated over the last several years.
Honey is a liquid that heats and cools slowly. If it is cold and the day is a bit warm or you have let warm moist air into the hive when you opened it up, condensation can occur on the areas of sealed honey-just like condensation on the surface of your cold glass of lemonade. The possibility of fermentation on the wet capping surface is always there, so be aware, but I doubt it.
Q BANANA AND MANGO HONEY PRODUCTION?
I enjoy your section of ABJ. It is really interesting and informative. I was looking for the honey potential of banana and mango. There is some evidence of honey potential as stated by Eva Crane in her book, Honey: A Comprehensive Survey. My curiosity has not been satisfied, as there is no data available regarding honey potential of both these plants.
In Pakistan we have a large potential for both these honeys, as there is a vast area of Punjab and Sindh where bananas and mangoes are cultivated.
Naveed Ahmad
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Naveed, banana does not need pollinators, as they are self-fertile. The wild birds come to eat pollen sometimes, but they are not major pollinators. Honey bees are not involved or attracted to banana. Mango is a different story, but there is some disagreement in the literature. Some research indicates that honey bees can and do work mango blossoms, but this tree often blooms when there is much competition from other blooming plants and trees. It has also been reported that bee pollination can increase yields of this fruit. On the other hand, others have said that honey bees are not attracted to the little nectar available in mango blossoms as it has repellent, volatile substances in it. Hoverflies and ants visit, but rarely honey bees.
Q ROTATING HIVE
Re:http://www.apiservices.com/anivet/index.htm
What is your opinion of this wacky way to raise bees? Is this rocket science or science fiction?
Roger Quebec
Canada
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This device/hive has been around for a while, Roger. Honey bees are survivors just like we are because they are adaptable and flexible. Just because honey bees can live in and on a round rotating comb doesn't necessarily mean it may be the best answer to honey bee health and vitality. We could probably come up with the technology and devices so cows could live in trees, but it may not be the best, most natural, cost effective way to do it. If you have enough money, give it a try. If not, then a more natural stationary cavity and frames might be more successful.
Q BUCKEYE POISON
In one of Randy Oliver's articles within his "sick bee" series... Randy explains that (at high levels) the California buckeye, Aesculus californica, is toxic to bees. I live in the Midwest, and we have related trees/tall shrubs: Ohio, yellow, and red buckeye. I have been planting these trees for their attractiveness to hummingbirds. Now I am wondering: Do all buckeyes (and the related horse chestnut) have somewhat toxic pollen?
I have read mixed things on the Internet. Everyone states the California buckeye example, but no one addresses the Midwest buckeye's pollen and its effect on bees, if any.
Below is part of a San Francisco Chronicle article on the related subject that cites Dr. George Ayers, the ABJ honey plants expert from Michigan State University. "Honey bees will visit buckeye blossoms, but the fare doesn't agree with them. (Native bees are immune, as are the checker spots and other butterflies that are the tree's major pollinators.) The tree's large shiny seeds are so loaded with toxins that few animals attempt to eat them. California Indians ground the seeds to a powder that they used to stun fish for easy capture.
It's not clear which of several chemicals is the nasty ingredient in the flowers, or whether both the pollen and nectar are toxic. Dr. Ayers says the consensus is that it's only the pollen. What happens when a colony gets "buckeyed," as beekeepers say? The foraging worker bees don't succumb right away, but with cumulative exposure develop paralysis-like symptoms and fatal constipation.
Meanwhile, there's big trouble back at the hive. A buckeye-fed queen may stop laying eggs, or produce only male (drone) eggs. The eggs she lays may fail to hatch, or the larvae die in infancy. Those that develop into new queens or workers have malformed wings and bodies, and the workers don't attempt to forage. Eventually, the queen may be dethroned.
By that time, as UC Davis entomologist, G.H. Vansell, wrote in 1932, "The demoralization of all the individuals in the colony is often complete." To humans, buckeye honey is no more toxic than poison oak honey. (We all have different susceptibilities: Birds thrive on mistletoe berries that would kill us, and dogs can't handle chocolate.) Buckeye honey also appears not to poison the bees. The good news is that a buckeyed hive can recover if it's moved away from the trees. Early research also indicates that some honey bee varieties, including Italian x Carniolan hybrids, are more resistant than others. Ayers suggests that the effects are worse in dry years, when few other plants are blooming and the bees get a concentrated dose of buckeye.
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I think all of the species in the genus Aesculus (horse chestnut, buckeye, etc.) have the toxic aesculin glucosides associated in some amount or another with them. Aesculus californica has more than others-enough to show acute colony damage. When an insect is a vegetarian (honey bee), the vegetable plant wants to protect itself from all of the other vegetarian insects and it is tough being selective with your toxin. Ohio, Red and Yellow have the glucoside as well, only not in the concentration or quantity to harm honey bees acutely, generally. The longer-term consequences of toxin (poison) exposure are probably not good.
Q STORED POLLEN SUB AND TWINKIES
Would commercial pollen substitute that was stored in a refrigerator for 5 years, and then frozen for a year still be fit to feed to honey bees? It feels/looks/smells completely normal. Is it a good idea to see if the bees take it and let them be the judges of its quality?
Michael
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Michael, anything that can stay in the fridge for 5 years and not get moldy means it probably has little nutritional value. The only other "food" product that lasts forever is Twinkies. Don't feed your bees Twinkies! When we have all been dead and gone from this planet for thousands of years and some archeologist is digging around the Wal-Mart Super Center, s/he will find Twinkies. The bees' real food from flowers, which is natural diverse pollen, is better. Be sure they have enough and save some frames of it for next year.
The Classroom - July 2011
by Jerry Hayes
(excerpt)
Q: AFB Treatment Value . . . Again
My question has to do with chemical suppression of American foulbrood (AFB). It is my understanding that honey bees in the USA long ago developed resistance to the effective ingredient in Terramycin. I know that Tylan has finally been approved for apicultural use in the USA, but for the non-commercial beekeeper, it is so expensive to buy a 100 gram bottle (500 doses!) when you only have 2 or 3 hives to treat.
Two years ago I contacted Elanco about preserving part of the powder by freezing, but that kills the antibiotic. Can you tell me if it would still be okay to treat my colonies with Terramycin or should I stick with the Tylan?
Thanks in advance for your savvy advice.
Best wishes,
Doug Stream
Belgrade, MT
A:
Doug, everything you said above is pretty much true. Mixing Tylan properly, because it is so concentrated, is beyond the scope of most of us. As a result of this, there are indications that there is Tylan AFB resistance beginning from improper dosing.
All that being said, I need to ask my perennial question, "Do you have American foulbrood to treat?" Antibiotics do not eliminate AFB. Spore-forming bacteria cause AFB. Spores are like seeds, long-lived, hard, that can survive as a stored embryo until it germinates. When AFB is exposed to antibiotics, some of the vegetative state is killed and some it form spores in response to this threat. If you don't have AFB, what are you treating? Are you taking antibiotics now because you are afraid of getting Strep Throat next week? Prophylactic AFB treatment is of dubious worth.
Q: Upper Entrances
My name is John Chuey a fourth-year beekeeper in Mahoning County, Ohio. I have read one of your older articles on Beesource regarding upper entrances-a great study that makes a lot of sense. I have a few questions. I have only two hives now, both 3-year established hives with a small upper entrance-only about 2'' wide-and a standard bottom entrance. The bees rarely use the bottom entrance. Within 3 weeks both hives will be relocated. Could I at that time close off the bottom entrance and just go with a larger top entrance? And, what about a drone escape at the bottom; will a 3/8 inch drilled hole be okay?
Within the next two weeks I will be installing two packages and sometime in late May I get two nucs. I would at that time like to start them on upper entrances. I have two more questions: With fewer field force bees depositing nectar below the excluder, will they build up enough honey reserve in the bottom deeps to get them through winter? On my future packages and nucs I wanted to start a few on all mediums, so how will it affect the bees if I need to keep moving the top entrance? Let's say I start with one medium or a deep with the top entrance on that and then weeks later I add another brood chamber. So should I just keep moving the top entrance up until I have my permanent two deeps or three meds and just leave it there? I know I am a bit confusing and long. Any help is appreciated.
Thank you,
John Chuey
A:
Good morning John. What I have done is just use an entrance reducer or a purposely-cut piece of wood that closes all but about 3/8ths of the bottom entrance. There is no need to drill holes in anything. You can establish an upper entrance at any time you may want. It is not generally at the very top all the time; it is simply above the brood nest area or brood boxes. You don't have to wait for any particular time or hive arrangement. Just move the entrance; the bees will adjust over a few days time.
Once established, it is always there-whether at the very top of two deeps or after you take off supers or with supers on. It is in the pretty much the same position right above the brood boxes. It is positioned not at the very top, but always right above the brood boxes. If you take the supers off at some point in late summer/early fall, the bees then have no other place to store nectar/honey in the over-wintering box arrangement that you have chosen, except in the brood boxes. As a result, they fill up the top brood box with late summer/fall honey. If you have no late summer or fall flow, that is a different matter and you would then need to feed or leave some of the spring/summer honey for overwintering. I hope this helps.
The Classroom - June 2011
by Jerry Hayes
(excerpt)
Lots of comments on the USDA Organic process that is available to "Growers and Packers" Here are a couple:
Hi Jerry, I simply wanted to say that I thought your recent Classroom article in April ABJ on the current status of the so-called USDA organic designation for honey was a much-needed explanation. Thanks for taking the time to follow up on that for the rest of us.
Ever since we've started seeing so-called USDA organic honey show up on market shelves (seems like only over the past few years), a lot of us beekeepers have wondered how such claims could be made...much less verified. I think your questioning and follow-up were right on the mark in terms of what many of us have thought.
Personally, I'd like to see the USDA drop that organic designation as I think it's nearly impossible to substantiate. I feel it also gives an unfair market advantage to non-U.S. beekeepers as well as perpetuates a false perception in the general public's mind about honey in general. I think there is nothing wrong with the newer Certified Natural movement that's been developing which would be much more truthful and honest with respect to honey.
Thanks again,
Allen Summers
Jerry, thank you for all the time and work you expended in all those letters about "organic honey." I have long suspected that there are plenty other things questionable about calling things organic. I like edamame beans. My local grocery sells packages of them in the pod, frozen. The front of the package has that familiar green and white encouragement USDA ORGANIC. One day I looked on the back of the package, and in really tiny letters it said, "Product of China." Wait a minute! Who inspects the various Chinese fields from which these beans come? Does the USDA send inspectors? Or do we (Ha Ha!) take the word of Chinese inspectors there? Is the "night soil" they are probably fertilized with free of contaminants? Gimme a break!
You called the Organic Honey a bogus process. I submit that the major part of the "Organic" certification is bogus.
Allen Cosnow
Glencoe, IL
Another group called "Certified Naturally Grown" (CNG) contacted me. They have a whole list of Best Management Practices available. They also have a list of allowed and prohibited substances found at www.naturallygrown.org/apiaryprogram.
Q Are Screened Bottom Boards Advisable For My Location?
Hi Jerry, I want to start out with giving you a BIG Thank You and a pat on the back for the excellent job you do with The Classroom! :)
I just read your point of view on "Queen Excluders or Honey Excluders?" posted on Beesource, and have some questions for you. I am constructing 4-way pallets for my bees and have been debating between using screened bottoms or a solid plywood bottom with top entrances like your design of a shim and a queen excluder.
Your comments lead to the brood in lower brood box being more to the back of the box away from the drafty bottom openings. How would a screen bottom work as it lets in lots of cool draft directly onto the brood? (By the way, I am located in the mountains of Northern Idaho and we have cool nights even in the heat of the summer, "good recovery" as they say in firefighter terms)
I realize that in modern beekeeping techniques that wide-open screened bottom boards year around is the "only way to go", and I have read this thousands of times, but it seems to me that in the wet, quick-to-change temperature area of the Pacific Northwest that chilled brood would be an issue, especially in the spring. Your thoughts on this please?
I was also wondering about your recommendations for placement of the shim/excluder top entrance set up when wintering over nucs in a single deep box with a medium honey super for winter food supply. Would you place the shim/excluder entrance between the honey super and the deep brood box or would place it on top of the honey super? If placed on top of the honey super, how would you keep the top cover cleat from blocking the entrance?
I have also experienced bees becoming stuck/wedged in a queen excluder when it was left on for winter ventilation under my migratory covers and the bees died from not being able to release themselves. Would this affect where the shim excluder entrance should be placed during the winter months or should a beekeeper use something else besides an excluder for the top entrance?
Thanks again!
Mike
Hugus Creek Honey Farm
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Mike, thanks for the compliment. That research/article "Queen Excluder or Honey Excluder" was done a very long time ago before varroa, screened bottoms, small hive beetle, honey bee virus problems, neonicotinoids and before I had so much gray hair:) My goal was simply to make an adjustment in existing equipment to duplicate more closely what was happening in feral colonies way back before varroa eliminated most of them.
All of that to say screened bottoms were not a part of IPM strategy to control varroa back then. But, it shouldn't make any difference on the use of a screen-bottom in relation to the entrance location. It won't be any "draftier". Keeping over-wintered colonies in a southern exposure, out of shade, dampness and wind is the ideal. Even then, data shows colonies with screened bottoms do develop slightly slower than solid bottom colonies in spring. They actually catch up quickly and surpass solid bottom colonies as the season progresses. The varroa control feature of having a screened bottom is a critical feature of colony health related directly to the beekeeper's desire to not use as many chemical products in the hive. I would remove ALL excluders from colonies in the winter. They are not needed and could restrict colony movement to food resources.
The Classroom - May 2011
by Jerry Hayes
(excerpt)
Q Swarming Behavior
I have often heard speakers say that if a hive is requeened, using swarm cells, that the keeper is selecting for swarming behavior. This usually gets a laugh from the audience. However, if I requeen using either supersedure queens OR swarm cell queens, the genetics would be identical! Wouldn't they? Speakers, and the literature, often seem to imply otherwise. I think it is time to debunk this idea that one queen is preferable to the other.
Bob Dye
Missouri
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Bob, I am not sure if these situational genetics are the same or not. The stressor to supersede a failing queen, in my mind is different than the "reproduction" urge that facilitates and supports swarming. But, as you say, the process is the same. So many genetic traits are tied to other genetic traits-kind of like a business flow chart or writing computer software. If one thing happens, it triggers another cascade of events. Genes and when and how they kick in are the variables. In the question you asked about queen rearing, yes at the very basic level queen rearing is queen rearing. Why queen rearing takes place is where other genes and other behaviors take place. Some are linked in parallel and some are not.
Bob Replies:
Q
As an afterthought, for someone (an expert?) to imply that requeening from swarm cells increases the swarming tendency would imply that the queen's spermatheca can selectively choose which sperm are more likely to carry swarm traits and/or that her ovarioles can do the same with eggs? This seems highly improbable. I wouldn't rule out, though, unknown environmental influences by the workers who raise those queens for supersedure or for swarming. Until then, I hold with you that queen raising is queen raising is queen raising and I feel that the ‘experts' are wrong about reinforcing swarming traits through requeening from swarm cells. It seems to be a myth which should be retired. On the other hand, if it is a truth, where is the supporting data?
Thanks,
Bob Dye
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Then, you have to consider Africanized honey bee (AHB) genetics in my part of the world. Data shows that AHB sperm will "swim", " migrate", "relocate", from where they are stored in the spermatheca to its opening so they are used first preferentially to produce more swarming, absconding, and other AHB-like behavior. Honey bees are survivors and have amazing survival schemes.
Q Too Much Light Discourages Brood Rearing?
Your "Classroom" is very interesting and helpful to me. A situation has been of considerable concern lately. My hives are on stands about one foot high, clean and open underneath. In most of them I notice a tendency for the brood to be in the upper part of the brood chamber and the super above. Is it possible that light from the open bottom is causing the bees to move higher thereby wasting comb space? Should I shield these stands in some manner to make them darker? Thanks for an opinion on this.
George Wheeler
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George, I suppose that you are using screened bottom boards because it is a great way to let varroa & hive trash fall to the ground and get it out of the colony. Light I think is of minor concern. Honey bees move up or have moved up at this time of year (February) for a variety of reasons: 1. Food reserves may have been eaten over winter and they are accessing food stored in supers above. 2. Warm air rises. It is easier to begin brood rearing that requires warm temperatures if it happens at the top. 3. Colonies with screened or open bottoms in spring do not begin brood rearing in the bottom areas of bottom combs because there is not a critical mass of bees to cover, warm, feed and protect brood in cool weather. Give it a month or two to determine if the top brood rearing is the norm, even during warmer weather. I assume that since you are running two brood chambers that you will reverse them at some point this spring anyway.
In early spring it is a trade off. Remove mites in an Integrated pest management (IPM) strategy with a screened or open bottom in cool/cold weather or have the bees move up into warmer areas if given space to begin brood rearing. If the bees have enough space, this is a good trade off in my mind because nothing is lost and varroa control is gained.
The Classroom - April 2011
by Jerry Hayes
(full version)
Q Organic Honey A Fake Standard
Let me set up this story: A beekeeper
sent me a small jar of honey that had
a "USDA Organic" label on it plus a statement "100% Organic" and a small sticker that said "Certified Organic by the Organic Crop Improvement Association (O.C.I.A.) International. On the label, on the back, the statement "Product of Brazil and Canada". The beekeeper who sent this had several questions, just like you have. He asked me 1. Since Honey Bees can forage efficiently within several miles of their colony, how can anything be produced that is organic? 2. What are the USDA Organic requirements? 3. How does the USDA quantify "organic" in two different countries Brazil and Canada? Excellent questions and perhaps I was opening up a Pandora's box of stuff I would rather not know. It is a long slog to find answers.
For those interested specifically in the process and the requirements search up the National Organic Program (NOP)/USDA Organic Certification and enjoy the read. I contacted the packer of the honey with all the organic labels and stickers and statements on it and I contacted USDA Agricultural Marketing Service. Let me share the email conversation with the company that packed the honey and then my conversation with USDA/AMS:
Jerry's inquiry to the XYZ Company who shall remain nameless:
I have had a consumer in Florida question the "organic" standard of "Organic Honey" sold under the XYZ label. The consumer sent me an 8 oz container purchased in a local grocery store. The consumer, a beekeeper, questioned how it could be "organic" if it is a blend of products from Brazil and Canada knowing the pest, parasite and disease control measures needed for honey bees. And the consumer does not think the USDA offers an "organic" standard for honey as displayed on the label. If you would be so kind as to answer the questions posed above and any other description of your basis for your "Organic" label, that would be helpful.
XYZ Company response:
Yes this can be and is certified to all standards under the NOP/USDA ruling for organic honey. There cannot be any use of herbicides, pesticides or GMO crops grown for 3 years on the area where the beeyards are. We blend the honey from Canada and Brazil and both have been tested and verified by an independent inspector from O.C.I.A. trained in the NOP rules.
Jerry:
Thank you. How have they been tested? The consumer who sent the product is a well seasoned beekeeper who is aware of the chemicals needed to keep honey bees alive and active. He is also aware that honey bees can forage in a 5-mile radius of their colony, which exposes them to lots of unintended toxins. What chemical residues are tested for? And, do you have batch documentation of these tests?
Thank you,
Jerry
XYZ Company:
Thank you for your inquiry. In order to obtain NOP/USDA organic certification the first step is an organic bee inspector from the organic certifying agency inspects the forage area.
Due to the far range of bee flying distance the vast forage areas must be free of any contaminants. This includes having clean air, soil and water. These requirements make it extremely difficult to find organically approved forage areas and are not available in the U.S. This is a part of the stringent organic certification requirements and these forage areas are only available in remote parts of Canada and Brazil. From the beginning to the end, full inspections are done by the organic certifying agencies in Canada and Brazil-not by us. We have organic certification documents issued by the organic certification agencies from the two countries.
Jerry:
Thank you. It must extremely difficult to find areas that are not impacted by our industrialized society. So, after the area has been approved for organic production, is there subsequent product testing to validate the organic certification of the end product? And, if so, what chemicals and/or their metabolites are looked for?
Thanks,
Jerry
XYZ Company:
We do not do testing; this is not a requirement for organic honey processing.
Now my exchange with the USDA/AMS:
Jerry:
Good Morning,
I was sent a container of a product labeled as "Organic Honey" under the XYZ Company label by a consumer in Florida. The consumer, also a beekeeper, was questioning the label that states that the honey was a blend from Brazil and Canada. Being a beekeeper and knowing the chemical inputs necessary to keep honey bees free of parasites, disease and pests and that honey bees can forage in a 5-mile radius of their colony, the statement made to me was, "That is impossible." I have been asked by the consumer if honey is on the NOP listing, are there certifying organizations in Brazil and Canada that would allow the USDA/AMS Organic label to be used and is there batch testing of honeys for chemical residues? The O.C.I.A. label is also displayed on this product and do their standards conform to NOP/USDA standards?
Thank you in advance for your help.
USDA/AMS Response:
Hello, and thank you for your email. According to the National Organic Program, it is possible to certify organic honey, provided that producers can meet the organic livestock standards. In other words, bees are considered livestock and are currently covered under sections 205.236 through 205.239 of the standards. Honey may be certified to the NOP standards using the livestock and handling standards. Bees must be managed from the second day of life as organic, as with poultry; consume organic feed; and avoid contact with prohibited substances. If certified in accordance with the NOP standards, the honey product may be labeled according to the NOP regulations. In the future the organic standards will be amended to cover any unique production and handling requirements as the NOP is currently working to developing these standards.
Concerning honey from Brazil and Canada, several USDA/AMS accredited certifiers operate in the former, while the USDA has an equivalence arrangement with the latter that would allow honey to be USDA certified organic in both countries.
Jerry:
Thank you so much for your response. "Livestock Standards", that is the rub. One can control what a chicken, cow or pig is exposed to or is fed and watered with as these animals can be contained, corralled and housed in some fashion. Honey bees can forage successfully in a 5-mile radius of their colony. No one can control what a honey bee feeds on, what water it drinks or what it is exposed to in the environment. How does a visual inspection of the beeyard by a NOP inspector address these realities? How does the USDA/AMS reconcile these realities? Thank you in advance for your help in my learning curve.
Jerry
USDA/AMS Response:
Truthfully speaking, these are the types of questions that the NOP is working to address.
So.....folks, You can pay some person, an accredited certifier, (what is that? how are they trained?) $$$ in this country or another country to come out, look around and give you Organic Certification. After that, there is no testing to say what Organic Honey is. The USDA/AMS sanctions this bogus process for bogus Organic Honey. Amazing.
Q Moving Day
Is it true that a colony can be successfully moved a short distance, without confusing or losing the foragers, by screening it closed for 3 days? If the weather is warm or hot should the colony, say a nuc, be placed in a basement (to prevent overheating) for the 3 days and then relocated to its new spot? I would worry about small hive beetles if I were to put it in the shade for 3 days.
Thanks!
Libby Mack
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It won't work Libby unless you kill off all of the old foragers who are already programmed to the location. Newly emerged workers don't know where they are so can be moved in the way you select. Locking them up for 3 days won't help unless it kills off all of the older foragers. Tough to do.
Q New York, New York
I am a NYC rooftop beekeeper. I peeked into my hives today just to see if they were alive. Ordinarily, I never open the hives in the winter to avoid chilling them. I noticed that the hives were dead. The bees were in the lower deep and not moving. It appeared that there was still capped honey so I don't think that they starved. I am not sure whether they froze, died of mite infestation or something else. How can I turn this into a learning experience and determine what they died from?
Phillippe Gerschell
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Philippe, many times determining what an animal, person or especially an insect like the honey bee died of is difficult. Probably varroa and/or a combination of disease and resource issues. In a perfect world you would have been sampling your bees, approximately 100 and using powdered sugar or alcohol or, every month, the soapy water method to get a snap shot in time of varroa levels. Because all colonies have varroa, selecting treatments that are the least stressful when the threshold level is reached is important. Powdered sugar every 3-4 days, Apiguard per label directions, ApiLife Var per label directions and then Apistan/
Checkmite as a last, last, last resort in that order. Having lots of bees in the order of 5 pounds plus is the goal. Without this critical mass of bees they can't efficiently maintain a warm cluster.
Then, having diseases like American foulbrood (AFB), and European foulbrood (EFB) and Nosema as non-issues is the goal. Add plenty of honey, beebread and a mild winter and you will be successful.
If you have met the requirements above and they still are dead, then it needs a closer look. If you haven't, you now have a basic 2011 game plan.
Philippe responds:
Thank you so much for the fast response. I was not adequately paying attention to mites. Is there anything I can do after the fact now that the colony is dead to see what killed them? Also, is it unwise to introduce combs of brood to bees in another colony?
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There is probably not a lot of investigative work that you can do now other than check for AFB and EFB spores, as well as dead varroa mites on the bottom board. Varroa reproduces on brood so if you put frames of sealed brood in another colony, assuming they haven't frozen to death, they will emerge with possibly lots of varroa mites. I would suggest you take your losses up front and treat surviving colonies with Apiguard when you have a nice break in the weather.
Q Bee Accurate Books
Have you or your readers found any books that are accurate when it comes to talking about honey bees for younger aged children? I have been asked by our local library to talk about beekeeping, pollination, etc to a group of elementary aged children. Prior to my presentation the librarian wants to read a book. When I asked which book they wanted to read they said, "The Bumblebee Queen." Hmmmm. This doesn't bode well. So I thought I would ask you and maybe your reader base. Any suggestions?
Bruce Vilders
Mount Vernon, WA
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Bruce, I am out of the office at present, but check our web site: http://www.freshfromflorida.com/pi/plantinsp/apiary/images/Bissy%20Bee%20Lesson%20Plan_web.pdf and I believe we have a K-5 curriculum called "What's the Buzz". Check it out, as it may be what you need. The National Honey Board also has a curriculum for young children that you can access at their web site, www.honey.com.
In addition, there are also many children's beekeeping books on the market and many of them do a great job of introducing young children to the world of bees and beekeeping. Try Googling this on the Internet or check out the catalogs of the major bee suppliers. They all carry children's beekeeping books.
Q Nightlight Confusion
In late 2006 or early 2007 I noticed honey bees on the front of our house in Miami Shores at night. The house is white. The coach lamps stay on all night. They were not grouped, just one here and one there totaling 12 to 15. Some were still there in the morning. All were gone by afternoon. I had never seen honey bees out at night before.
The other day I saw a honey bee walking along on the sidewalk. Something about her pace made her look lost. I spend my summers in NC. I'm an agricultural crop consultant working in cotton, etc. I noticed a few more bees this summer and thought maybe things were normalizing with the bees. Can you tell me what's going on?
Thanks,
Toni Wade
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Toni, honey bees, like many other animals, organize their lives individually and communally by day and night cycles. Not unlike chickens, honey bees use the diurnal cycle of the sun rising and setting to give them biological/physiological cues of what to do and when to do it. Once years ago we lived at a place where we decided to get a few chickens and being novices, we got a rooster as well. The place where we had them was close to a streetlight. The rooster was motivated by this artificial "sun" to crow all night. Our neighbors were not impressed nor were we, so he had to go.
Honey bees can get confused about artificial lights and be attracted to them no differently than moths and hundreds of other insects. Honey bees, especially feral honey bees with some African genetic introgression that is exhibited in your area, are easily attracted to outdoor lighting. They think it is the sun.
Honey bees age, are exposed to toxins, can be physically damaged while foraging and may not be able to fly. If they can't fly, they walk until they get eaten. The bees you saw this past summer may be a healthier feral colony or with the huge growth in hobby beekeeping, these may have been beekeeper-managed honey bees some place close by. I am glad you are noticing. That means you care.
Q Partial Truth
I have a "Classroom" question for you: I've had numerous friends forward me news stories about the EPA allowing clothianidin, which allegedly is provably harmful to honey bees. These news items usually pin the blame for Colony Collapse Disorder on this and a recent documentary (The Vanishing of the Bees) that's making the rounds also firmly blames everything on Bayer chemicals (and more or less dismisses disease vectors as a cause!). Reading these stories it would sound like the chemical in question is indeed quite harmful for bees, but I know all too well how wrong the media can get things, so I've been holding out for an opinion on this from a member of the beekeeping scientific community. What are your thoughts on this?
Kris
California
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The problem is, primarily, in agricultural settings where honey bees are brought in for fee-based pollination or beekeepers looking for a good free nectar source. Production agriculture requires lots of chemical inputs to make this system work. Fertilizers, pesticides, fungicides, surfactants, growth regulators and many other chemicals are used topically and/or systemically. Honey bees are exposed to these chemicals when in these production agriculture systems, sometimes in acute lethal levels and sometimes in sub lethal chronic levels. Being an insect exposed to things that are designed to control bad insects or to chemicals, which synergistically are toxic to honey bees, stresses them. Too much stress in this small insect with limited ability to breakdown these toxins and the honey bee suffers negative health effects.
For instance, we have preliminary data that show that some "chemicals" in the ppm level affect the gut lining of honey bees which makes nosema more aggressive and in turn allows more viruses to infiltrate the gut and affect overall honey bee longevity. As we thought all along, honey bee health is a mixture of many different positive and negative inputs. Can we point our fingers at certain chemical companies for doing bad things? Sure we can, but what we really need to do is to prove honey bees and ourselves valuable, so we are part of the protective labeling process and not an after thought.
Q Varroacide Brood Rearing Disruption
I have been using Apilife Var for four years with mixed results. I've been inserting it for both spring and fall (early May and late Aug to early Sept.) for the three 7 to 10 day periods. I have been placing the second and third dose with the first dose left in place and all were removed after 30 days. In conversation with another beekeeper, he informed me that when it is used in the fall, it might restrict the queen from laying brood, resulting in fewer young bees to over winter. Do you know if this is possible?
B Graney
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Anything put into a colony that is a varroacide, antibiotic or essential oil can disrupt the colony, the foragers, nurse bees and queen and this impacts brood production. That is why miticides that use essential oils have specific timing specifications on their labels. As an aside, in its simplest there are two kinds of bees, summer and winter bees. Summer bees are physiologically designed to be lean, fast and live 6-8 weeks after working themselves to death. Winter bees are different in that they have more fat bodies and a metabolism designed so they can live for months during a normal temperate winter as found in many parts of North America. These winter bees start being produced in late summer, early fall (Aug/Sept) in preparation for a long cold winter as these European genetic honey bees are programmed to do.
So, products like Api-life Var need to be used no later than late summer as sometimes the queen shuts down for a few days during treatment. The number of bees lost or not produced is only about 2-3000. But, when bees are coming out of winter in March or April and need every bee they can get to maintain hive warmth and brood production, having them is better than not having them.
Q Beekeeping Isn't Really Easier In The South
I have a question for you. Here in Florida, is it better to have one deep for brood or are two deeps better?
It would seem that there would normally be a lot more bees in a double deep than there would be in a single deep, and that more honey would be produced as an end result. Some beekeepers are of the opinion that a single deep with a queen excluder on top of it is the preferred way to go. However, if an individual wanted to increase his colony count, it would appear that a double deep would be more conducive for splitting into another colony.
I will be looking forward to receiving your opinion on this topic.
Kind regards,
Tim French
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Having kept bees in the north and in Florida, they are two different worlds because of weather and the bees. We have a hodge podge of honey bee genetics from northern Europe, the Mediterranean and Africa now. We live in a tropical/Subtropical part of the world called Florida. We keep honey bees from Europe because they store enough honey to make it through a long cold northern European winter. What folks forget in Florida is that with our warmer temperatures (generally) in winter this actually means the bees are using MORE resources as brood rearing continues through most of what we call winter. But, there are not the flowering plants to support this continuous growth in our winter.
In Florida we do have things blooming all winter for this temperate insect, but never enough to support the brood rearing triggered by warmer temperatures. The bees are confused. They are supposed to be taking it easy in December, January, February and March, but temperature is telling them it is time to get going. Anyone who can successfully keep honey bees year round in Florida without a lot of artificial inputs is a good beekeeper. Double deeps make more sense to me than pushing the envelope with less room and hoping temperature and blooming plants will appear in parallel in winter in Florida. If you want to feed all winter, then it doesn't matter. Your choice.
Q Snow Blind Bees
Jerry - Greeting from a New Hampshire Bee Yard (Snow Covered). Although I grew up in Maine farmland surrounded with honey bees most of my young life, I just recently, at age 71, became involved with the amazing insects. I now live in Exeter, New Hampshire, a near coastal New England community. When I attended the local Pawtuckaway Beekeepers Association's Bee School I discovered that I was not "the unique" old duffer. There were many of us in attendance. Nonetheless, my questions:
On sunny days, which we have had few of this year, many of my Italian ladies take flight. I observe them at temperatures as low as 38 degrees. I am aware of "winter cleansing flights." Also, I am not overly surprised at the numbers of dead bees on the snow in front of the hive. I assume these are part of the cleansing process - removing the dead from the colony. However, I observe that dozens of the bees in flight fall to the snow and ultimately die. When I pick them up and try to coax them back into the warmth of the hive, they simply return to their original pursuit. Why is this? Are these old and weak bees? Do I have a disease problem?
Thank you in advance. Your ABJ articles are my bible.
Wayne M. Patten
Exeter, New Hampshire
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Congratulations on this new amazing relationship with the honey bee. Remember that honey bees orient towards the sun and navigate by it. On a bright sunny warm day with snow on the ground, it gets pretty bright doesn't it? In humans it gets so bright that sunglasses help. In many parts of the world there is a condition called snow blindness where our eyes (retinas) get overwhelmed/over loaded by this reflected light. Honey bees have "eyes" that can get overwhelmed by bright light, UV especially. They simply fly around blind and eventually fly right into the snow....crash. The reflected light is brighter than the sun. The bees fly around; start getting cool and fly into the snow. Some entomologists also believe that these dying bees are old or diseased and that is why they do not make it back to the hive. That is why having many healthy honey bees going into winter is better than less because so many are lost along the way for many different reasons.
The Classroom - March 2011
by Jerry Hayes
(excerpt)
Q Alternate Food Source
We enjoy reading your articles in the American Bee Journal. We have a question:
We have a few hives and also feed a few cows. Last fall we were feeding the bees high fructose corn syrup (HFCS), but noticed the bees were drawn to the cattle feed with dextrose and molasses. They really seemed to like this over the corn syrup. Will the dextrose and/or molasses cause any harm to the bees? Will this make the honey darker?
Steve Heston
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Actually, Steve, honey bees can locate "food" more easily away from the colony rather than if they are near a feeder. The closest a honey bee can direct her sisters to a food source (flower), is just a few meters from a colony. When food such as HFCS is fed in a colony, each individual bee has to find the sources herself as it is too close to dance/vibrate/and squeak to her sisters about. All that said, your cattle sweet feed was easier to locate and tell the whole colony about than your in-hive feeder. The molasses part of this equation would introduce lots of indigestible material to the honey...not good in full winter. But, they were probably not able to eat, collect and store a lot of this, so I doubt it did any great harm to the bees or any already dark fall honey such as goldenrod or aster.
Q Do Bees Have Mops and Sponges?
Thanks for your classroom. I look forward to reading it with each new issue, and have just ordered your book. This has been my first year in beekeeping. I placed my extracted frames outside to let the bees clean them up, and before I put them away for the winter, it rained (a lot) and filled the cells in the comb with water. I shook the frames out and tried to dry them up, and then stacked the boxes with the frames in them in my barn. I placed a board over the top of the stack to keep the mice out.
It seems there was still some moisture in the boxes, the frames, and the comb. Now I have a fair amount of mildew growing on the surfaces of the wood and on the wax of the combs. Is it okay to use these frames next year? Will the bees clean out the mildew before storing honey in the comb? Can I do anything now to make it easier later when I want to add these supers?
Thank you,
Jim Dyreby
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Jim, the bees will clean them out but less stress, cleaning up icky stuff, is always better than more. How about a low pressure spray with a household bleach solution (1 tablespoon per gal of water) to kill the mold and leaving them to air out exposed to the sun before using them successfully in a colony. You should be fine.
The Classroom - February 2011
by Jerry Hayes
(excerpt)
TED Lecture
Wherever you are, it might be a cold, miserable February Day when not much is going on and spring may still be over the horizon. Or, it could be a really nice spring or fall day, depending on your location relative to the equator. Regardless of where you are or what you are doing, I'd like you to take a look at an online TED (Technology Entertainment and Design) presentation by Chef (yes, a Chef) Dan Barber, titled "How I fell in Love with a Fish" (Yes, I know). Trust me or don't trust me, but take a look: http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/dan_barber_how_i_fell_in_love_with_a_fish.html.
It is only about 20 minutes, then come back and read this exchange.
Q
This TED lecture was sent to me and after watching it I thought of you. Maybe you have seen it. I would be grateful if some of its wisdom would be reflected in your Classroom pages. It is about farming fish, but it could be about farming honey bees as well.
Frank Bernstein
Pardess Hana Israel
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Thank you Frank. Tell me how you think that this information, direction, change in direction can be incorporated into the Classroom? Certainly the small footprint of a part-time backyard hobby beekeeper is "ecologically" something valuable and sustainable. Commercial migratory beekeeping with the thousands of colonies owned by one beekeeper/small business person is not "beekeeping" in my mind. The largest beekeeper in Florida has approx. 15,000 colonies, staff, trucks, loaders, buildings and 1,000's of gallons of liquid feed and 1,000's of pounds of pollen substitute, etc. This is not beekeeping, it is production agriculture. No different than 10's of thousands of chickens, hogs, cattle, fish or thousands of acres of a monoculture such as corn and soybeans.
In production agriculture one pushes the unit of production hard in order to gain a monetary reward. Beekeepers are no different than anyone one else in production industrial agriculture. They push a colony of honey bees hard in order to get a reward. Not that these are bad people, but that is the business model and it seems to work within this world. How do you change a small business person's model and still let them pay their mortgage, put the kids through school, buy diesel fuel and more machinery? Everything is a trade-off. Bringing 2 million honey bee colonies to California for almond pollination is just turning diesel fuel into almonds. And this pertains to any other crop involved in fee-based pollination or honey production. Kind of like turning chicken into tuna in the TED piece. Let me know what you think the new model should be?
Q2
Thank you for your response. You've asked a difficult question, but in your mail I believe you have the basis for the answer. Not the answer, but the basis for it. I remember when I was taking a navigation exam on a boat off the shores of Haifa. The examiner asked us to plot a direction to Akko, which is on the coast and just a bit north of Haifa. We had three minutes. My compatriots rushed down into the hold, pulled the charts and started making calculations. A few of us stayed on deck because we realized that we could see Akko from where we were standing. So all we had to do was look a the ship's compass for the answer. What I mean is that sometimes the answer is simpler than the question.
What is the model? The model is the way we get there. I remember an exchange you had with someone who was writing about regulatory questions concerning organic honey. It involved, I believe, Q's and A's and then another round. I don't remember the details, but I believe she persisted in championing her sustainable model of beekeeping which she felt was basic for the potential to produce quality honey and her belief in the importance of insisting on consuming quality honey and other quality foods as a basis for human health.
Correct me if I am wrong, and I apologize if I am, but I remember that you felt that we have a world to feed and that her model could not supply the goods. In my opinion, both of you are right and that the model that must come will be a synthesis of both points of view. The way to get there is through discussion, precipitating discussion in the belief that it is essential that these elemental issues be considered.
One way to incorporate the message of the TED lecture into The Classroom is to include your readers in the debates that are ongoing over why bees today are so difficult to manage, work, and keep healthy. They need to know not just what to do when a problem arises, but why the problem has arisen in the first place. Not just what to do to control varroa, but why is varroa so difficult to control. Here you might consider the loss of genetic diversity of queens from the demands of large commercial operations that require uniformity and specific profit-producing traits and the tradeoffs that involves. Raising hundreds and even thousands of queens from one mother. Here you might consider stress factors such as crowding (of bees), mild air pollution that dulls the honey bees' sense of smell and foraging efficacy and other subtle environmental dangers. You know this stuff better than most, so it would be helpful to those of your readers, many of whom do not have a sense of the bigger world of beekeeping that they have entered, when they have only two hives in their back yard.
Before I continue, I'd like to say that I agree with your description of production beekeeping, except for the small business aspect. The large commercial operations are big business. In the end profits might be marginal, but these are big business operations with large payrolls and a lot of money changing hands. Is a production agriculture modeled fish farm, hog farm or a turkey farm a small business because it is owned by one person? Sure, everybody is trying to get their kids through school, pay the mortgage, bring bread to the table, but the ones who do it pushing around a few thousand dollars a month are not the same as the ones who are pushing around tens of thousands a month or more. And, as you say, they both leave an entirely different imprint on the environment and the bees themselves.
After all, if we are turning chickens into fish, what are we eating? And, if we are turning diesel fuel into almonds, what are we doing? We need to produce income, but that a model works to produce income does not logically define its viability. Maybe the model is intention. With intention, anything is possible.
Frank Bernstein
Q How Many Eggs?
Can you provide a ballpark figure regarding how many eggs a queen would lay during the course of a calendar year? Thanks very much.
Joel
Fox Lake, IL
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I can say with all honesty that I cannot....nor can anyone else. Too much diversity Joel. Here are some things to consider. Our genetically based honey bees of European origin evolved/developed in a part of the world that had distinct seasons-spring, summer, fall and most significantly winter. These honey bees are led by a fertile queen laying up to 2000 eggs per day in summer and potentially none in the dead of winter. Then, egg laying could be up and down in all seasons due to the amount of nectar and pollen coming in that determines how many larvae can be fed. Add in swarming and a break in brood rearing, incomplete matings, diseases and weather influence and who knows. Define the parameters and a calculation can be done. Keep it in a nebulous, ever changing real world and these remarkable insects survive by being ever adaptable and flexible. They have survived for millions of years by being adaptable, which makes management decisions by the beekeeper hard because they really don't need us.
The Classroom - January 2011
by Jerry Hayes
(excerpt)
Q Why Aren't Growers Beekeepers?
Thank you for spending your weekend with us at the Cook DuPage Beekeepers Association (IL). We enjoyed your thought-provoking presentation and your sense of humor. I was very touched by your genuine love for the honey bee and concern for its future as well as ours. And, I know that we all left the banquet feeling the importance of what we're doing. And, that we, as part-time beekeepers, have the power to make a difference in how the public views the sweet honey bee. I also feel that we have a responsibility to the honey bee to care for it in the safest, most nurturing way possible.
For the past 10 years that I've been keeping bees, I have been very disturbed by the methods used by commercial beekeepers when transporting, feeding and handling the bees. It seemed to me, and I'm no scientist, that the bees were stressed, ill-fed, and worked beyond their limits. There must be a better way to ensure pollination of orchards and crops without mistreatment of the bees. Given the expense of renting hives, I've often wondered why orchards don't employ their own beekeepers and maintain onsite hives. It could mean less cost to the grower, honey to sell as a sideline and the bonus would be better management for the bees. But what do I know? I just know that for what we reap from the honey bee, we are not very generous to them in return. And they deserve to be treated more kindly. If we would all be more mindful in our beekeeping practices, look beyond the moment, be less greedy and more thankful, the little honey bee would start thriving once again.
Jane Collins - President
Cook-Dupage Beekeepers' Association
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Thank you Jane for the kind words and insight into honey bee pollination in particular. Let me see if I can give you a poor analogy as to why most growers do not keep honey bees themselves. Remember that they only need them for a few weeks a year at best and that they are not beekeepers but growers and have enough stuff to think about. Let's say you have a lawn maintenance company mow your yard and trim your bushes from June to September. Would you keep them on the payroll paying them the same amount as you pay them weekly or bi-monthly from September through May? Maybe, but probably not. Honey bees are an overhead in the grower's mind not unlike all of the other inputs he/she has to provide to produce a saleable crop. Why worry about the bees and what do I do with any honey production and do I need to do some management techniques and what happens if I lose 30% of the bees right before the trees, bushes or the plants bloom? Isn't it better to just place an order for 100 colonies of a certain strength and have them delivered and leave all the headaches to the beekeeper for the next 50 weeks? For the grower this is not unlike ordering fertilizer, chemicals or pickers.
Q Powdered Sugar Applcation
When you apply powdered sugar, should you apply it over the top bars and let it go between the frames or should you pull the frames and apply it to the bees on the sides of the comb. I don't want to damage the brood. I have seen it done both ways on Youtube. So, I'll turn to the one with the expert advice. Thanks so much for what you do for us new beekeepers who are trying to learn.
Danny
Vansant, VA
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Danny, the top down method works well without disturbing the colony unnecessarily. Approximately 1 cup per hive body works very well. Screened bottoms or some way of removing the still alive mites as they fall down with the remnants of the powdered sugar is also a necessity. Do this about every 7-10 days. Then, survey so you get accurate estimates of varroa populations and then cross your fingers.You should be pleased.
The Classroom - December 2010
by Jerry Hayes
(full version)
MERRY CHRISTMAS
Well, 2010 was interesting. I don't quote Scripture often but, "For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes in diverse places." Matthew didn't mention the economy in the dumper, but here we are. Be grateful, have gratitude for all you have and all we have in this country and that includes honey bees. We have that connection to something real and amazing, regardless of what is going on around us in the world. Merry Christmas.
Q Warre (war rey) Hives
As a beekeeper, I am concerned about the health of our industry. I am interested in all methods of helping our industry. I have been hearing and reading about these Warre hives and the way in which they are used. Have you had any experience in seeing or hearing about these hives? If you have, what are your opinions, professional or personal?
Thank you,
Ernie Schmidt
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First, here is my disclaimer: I have never been a full time manager of a Warre Hive full of honey bees. Here is what I think I know from having seen these in use:
1) They look like a pain in the neck.
2) Their management is based on "hands-off" beekeeping, which is not good. How does one administer pest, parasite and disease control or anything else efficiently?
3) TBH's (top bar hives) such as the sloped sided Kenyan variety are much better for individual frame manipulation than these things are since TBH's are designed to work with honey comb building biology, not against it. A square box like the Warre hive with only a top bar for the bees to build free form comb on means they attach it to the sides and the top bars of the box below.
4) Under-supering is a pain. With the entire comb attached to something (side, top, bottom), you have to lift up the upper box somehow and use piano wire to separate the comb attached to the top bars from the box above. You kill a lot of bees. Ugh. Plus, when they get tall, the weight is physically tough to deal with. My back is really not getting any stronger.
5) The only possible advantage is that the colony is forced to draw new comb. This is a good thing because it avoids reusing pesticide- or disease-contaminated comb. On the down side, it lowers your honey production since the extra comb building means less honey production. However, you can compromise by swapping out three or so frames /combs every year from a Langstroth frame style hive and get the same results without forcing ugly words to come out of your mouth when working the Warre hives.
The understanding of "bee space" was the Holy Grail of beekeeping. It allowed beekeeping to become easier, more efficient and enjoyable. It is the basis of all successful beekeeping. Are you sure you want to go back over 150 years into beekeeping history and re-invent the wheel?
Q Small Hive Beetle Ground Drench
There is a possibility of getting a ground drench registered in Canada for small hive beetle. This would be a Permethrin treatment, GardStar. From what you've seen in Florida, are many beekeepers using ground drenches on apiaries?
Raul Shashinski
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Florida's soils (sand) are not structured and therefore are conducive to small hive beetle (SHB) larvae pupating in it. In most of Florida we are always just three weeks away from a drought as and rain we get simply runs through the sand and back into the aquifer. SHB larvae have to: 1) burrow 5-6 inches straight down in the sand to get to a location with sufficient moisture and stable temperatures or 2) crawl a distance to get to the margins of woods and thicker vegetation where temperatures are cooler and soil is moister.
All of that to say ground drenches do not do very well because our rains wash and dilute the Permethrin (GardStar) quickly and wash it out of the kill zone. Also, SHB larvae can crawl 100+ yards at times seeking out the cooler moister woods margins. One potentially would have to treat a large area around a colony or an apiary repeatedly to have any effect and it just isn't efficient or cost effective. Plus, most beekeepers consider a treatment like this is after the fact, when their colony has already been compromised. They are usually more interested in killing the reproductive adults in the colony. Unlike you, we have an endemic 24/7/365 population of SHB, so controlling adult infestation pressure is the goal. Winter will be your friend.
We haven't even talked about the environmental concerns, and ground water contamination, etc. My opinion is that this product should not be your first line of
defense or offense Paul.
Q Science Fair Project
My name is Julia Rauchfuss. I am a senior at West Jr/Sr High School and I am doing a Science Fair project on the honey bee's foraging behavior. I have a few questions about my experiment that I was hoping you might be able to help me with. My science project is to determine whether honey bees rely more on their sense of smell or their memory to locate food sources. I am having difficulty isolating the variable in my experiment, which is the method the bees use for finding the sugar water bowl (smell, memory of bowl's previous location, and memory of bowl's appearance) from each other.
My plan for my experiment is to lay out 4 identical bowls equidistant from the beehive, one bowl will contain sugar water and the others will contain plain water. In each test, I will leave the bowls out in this formation long enough for the bees to become accustomed to the location of the sugar bowl. Then, I will switch the location of the sugar bowl with one of the other bowls and
observe which bowl the bees initially go to. If the bees first go to the prior location of the sugar water bowl, then I would hypothesize that they are using some type of memory. If that is the case, I plan to perform further experiments to determine whether they are remembering the previous location of the sugar water bowl or its appearance. I know that was a very brief explanation of my experiment, but are there any apparent problems that you see in it?
Also, I have a few questions about my
experiment that I was hoping you might be able to answer for me. I'm aware of the waggle dance that bees use to tell other bees where to find a food source, and that this could throw off my results if bees are using instructions to find the bowl (instead of smell or memory). But, I'm not sure exactly how to adjust my experiment to prevent the waggle dance from skewing my results or even to take advantage of this behavior. Should I stop recording results after it has become apparent that the bees have been told where to find the sugar water bowl? Will it be apparent when the bees have been told where to find the sugar water bowl?
Thank you for your time.
Julia Rauchfuss
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Julia, I am glad that you are using the honey bee as your research platform. What I think I know from data about honey bee foraging in a field setting is this. Foraging scouts leave the colony and sample flower nectar to bring back to the colony to share with their forager-age sisters. There is a bit of competition among the returning scouts as they share information about the nectar they have brought back. The nectar will be sampled by other individuals in the colony and assessed for sugar content. More sugar means it is sweeter and may be a better energy exchange for energy expended flying out and energy being returned (sugar) to the colony for use and/or storage. In this nectar sample the nectar will have a flavor and aroma component. Through a variety of "dances", vibrations, angles and speed, which you have already read about, foragers are recruited to go in a certain direction when they leave the colony. After leaving the colony in a certain direction, they also search for aromas associated with the nectar sampled in the colony. At some point the foragers then use their visual field to do a final location and then they taste the nectar to see if it matches up with the flavor they received from the sample in the colony and viola they are there or not. The order may be dances, direction, aroma/scent, visual, flavor and identification. It is a multi-level search mechanism, not just dances.
For instance, if you just put out sugar water that has no "flavor or aroma", then it is difficult for the scouts to go back and "sell" the product. It has no identifying traits that can be used to direct their sisters to a location other than suggested direction and distance. Fewer foragers will go to and ultimately find the site than if there are other identifying components-pretty fascinating for an insect with a brain the size of a period on this page.
Have fun with this. I would run your research design protocol past Dr. Jamie Ellis /University of Florida for fine-tuning and explanation.
Julia Replies
Jerry, thank you! In a simple paragraph, you helped me understand what several books and articles could not. Your breakdown on the waggle dance has really helped me grasp the concept in a way that I can use to plan my experiments. And thank you for telling me about the sugar water. Dr. Ellis recommended that I use water with honey in it.
Q Beekeeping in Western Australia
Hello Jerry. I never miss an issue and your page. I am confused. Here is my question. There are thousands of beekeeper sites and millions of pages on how to keep bees. They all claim to be experts. Bah humbug! The swarm prevention issue is still the single most important factor. Keeping bees and keeping them balanced and fulfilled is essential.
Just read Kim Flottum's book, which really is very detailed. Unfortunately, he has also missed the whole point as to the center core essentials! People need to read more about animal behaviors. Temple Grandin and Cesar Millan provide such fabulous information.
Having done my reading and research, then following a logical twice-a-month structured management system and inspection routine all through spring and summer for the past 10 years, my bees do not swarm. Raising a new queen during pretty autumn days on top of the hive (above a screen), then easily finding and dispatching the old queen and placing the new queen and her brood box down to the base of the hive, preparatory to winter, is just basic common sense. (I do not have snow where I live.) No STRESS, No SWARMING, No FEAR, No CONFUSION. Lots of honey, happy bees ...and an even happier beekeeper. So many people seem to be doing it wrong. Jerry can we ever agree on a practical beekeeping regime that works for most of the people, most of the time?
Dan
Western Australia
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Dan, I have thought about your question/observation about how, consistently and successfully, to manage honey bees. So, here goes with my admonition that an opinion is like a nose...everybody has one. I think my opinion is that we are talking about somewhat different beekeeping worlds-Australia and the United States. As such, the basics are the same, but at the same time slightly different due to the changes that have been imposed on U.S. beekeepers generally.
Beekeeping 30+ years ago was one in which the only thing we had to worry about was AFB. Honey bees basically took care of themselves. If one could learn about honey bee biology to a small degree and prevent or discourage swarming, he/she was ahead in the game. Preventing swarming, which is a key reproductive method for honey bee survival, is hard to stop.
Fast forward to tracheal mites, varroa mites, small hive beetles (SHB), honey bee viruses, African honey bees (AHB), Nosema ceranae, systemic agricultural pesticides, sunspots and global warming. All of these, except the last two said somewhat in jest, add in levels of change and concern with their new variables. We lost lots of beekeepers when tracheal mites were introduced. Those who adapted then had to contend with varroa mites and then we lost some more beekeepers who could not adapt. Now slowly mix in SHB, viruses, AHB, etc. and swarming takes on a less important role because if your bees are that healthy to reach swarming stage, that is great!
Most of the time U.S. commercial beekeepers are splitting colonies to make up losses, so swarming is not an issue. Then, with AHB biological introgression and this bee's propensity to send out swarms the size of a grapefruit multiple times (10-20) a year and beekeepers simply can't keep up.
If someone can successfully keep honey bees in the southern tier of states in the United States, they are excellent beekeepers-much better than I am. There are so many negative inputs and one has to know not only the biology of honey bees, but also a whole suite of pests, parasites and pathogens and so only the smartest, most committed and adaptable beekeepers survive. This is Darwinian control of beekeepers, as well as honey bees.
I think at some point in the future we can come up with Best Management Practices for honey bees that will be successful. I just don't think we are there yet.
Thanks for the great question.
Dan Follows Up
Comprehensively answered and very clever as always. We (down under in Western Australia) keep on whacking ourselves and touching as many wooden objects as possible while our luck continues to hold up with our not having to deal with European foulbrood, small hive beetle, Apis cerana honey bees or bee-killers like Varroa and Tracheal mites. We just have light doses of AFB and occasional Chalkbrood outbreaks.
I believe you have answered my query very well.
Recently, I was obliged to participate in a surveillance hive-monitoring program. I had to insert sticky boards and Bayvarol strips in my hives. The state apiary inspector will take out, examine and review all the sticky boards for any signs of a mite problem. I FELT SO BAD on the inside after I had done that to my special friends the bees, felt like I was doing something bad to them, they who have given so much back to me over the years and the queens that have formed great communication connections with me and demonstrated calmness and positive energy to new comers. Such balanced bees and no swarming.
Jerry, please keep up your good work answering all manner of question in the ABJ. You are certainly VERY MUCH APPRECIATED, even 18,000 miles away!
P.S. Western Australia is known as the wildflower state. Average yearly yield from a hive in the suburbs is about 100 kilos (220 pounds). Our casuarinas -paper bark trees flowered three times this past summer, four times in the previous year. Climate change can be weird.
Kind regards,
Dan
Wesern Australia
Q Temperate Bees In The Tropics
I'm wondering if you could shed some light on how the bees behave here in South Florida during the winter months? Does the queen slow down laying due to the weather and lack of nectar like they do in the north - or because we are tropical, does she keeps up her laying more than the north? My mentor, who has been a Massachusetts beekeeper for 35 years, isn't sure about the winter months here in south Sarasota County and we're wondering if we need to feed the bees all winter? Also, is there a list of plants that provide nectar and pollen during the winter months here in SW Florida since it is sub-tropical? Is there a list of native plants just for our zone 9, 10 that are good for bees? Also, how do you know when to feed them the sugar water mixture? Thanks again for your wonderful help to all of us!
Janice
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Glad to be able to assist a little, Janice. Sometimes I am a little long-winded, as in my mind answers are seldom neat and tidy in the honey bee world. Bear with me a bit as I weave around your question below.
Genetically based European honey bees developed/evolved in a part of the world that had a significant most challenging season for survival....winter. These are temperate "bees" or bees that have adapted to seasons, temperature swings, daylight length changes and short, intense growing seasons as plants try to reproduce before the next winter. Some flowers produce lots of nectar to encourage quick complete pollination by insects, honey bees included, in temperate northern climates. Honey bees have adapted to collect large amounts of nectar, and have figured out how to preserve it (honey) for use during winter when there is nothing to eat and cold temperatures require more energy to keep from freezing to death. Honey is a high-energy food sought after by animals, including humans, and is the reason humans have had a close relationship to these food-storing insects for thousands of years. The beekeeping industry developed because it was agricultural food production and had individual value and societal cultural value.
European-based honey bees are valuable because they store more honey than they typically need and we can eat it, trade it and sell it. They are seasonally adjusted to respond and survive winter. In tropical/sub-tropical climates European genetically based honey bees do not do well "generally" year round because they have no seasonal cues as they had in temperate climates.
Brazilian beekeepers brought over African Bees in the late 1950's because the European honey bees they had were okay, but not very robust or vital because they didn't know how to biologically respond to few or weak seasonal cues. These beekeepers/
entomologists thought they could breed out the defensive/aggressive characteristics. However, they didn't and we now have the environmental blunder of the 20th Century-and for us the 21st Century. We will have to see how all this works out in the long-term.
So, keeping honey bees successfully in the tropics/subtropics is a bit different. Queens are genetically programmed to take several months off in winter, but now the daylight is shorter in Florida, but not so short as to signal "winter". The temperatures are still warm, so that tells the queen she can lay and there is always something blooming. However, there is not really enough to provide suitable nectar and pollen for significant brood production. There is some of everything, but not enough for large European honey bee populations. Left alone, they are confused and stressed. Beekeepers have to feed liberally to keep the colony alive as they try to raise brood and keep large hungry populations that do not have enough natural resources to access all of the time.
Beekeepers have to monitor colonies continuously as the bees eat up stores quickly in the warm weather. Or, they do as commercial beekeepers do and use this time to split colonies and treat for varroa, waiting for January, February and March when colonies will build up again in the South Florida "spring". You still have to feed and monitor as honey bee populations increase. You have to be a good beekeeper in South Florida, as it will test your management skills. No winter cleansing there.
In the Melitto Files there has been a list of plants blooming in different regions of Florida over the last year or so. Dig out your past issues and you'll find "Management Calendars". Or, take a look at www.
UFhoneybee.com and find past issues of the Melitto Files and in them will be "Management Calendars" listing possible plants in bloom.
If you have made it this far, I hope it made some sense.
Q Anise Hyssop
I am sure you are familiar with Anise Hyssop. Are there specific varieties that are best for honey bees? Do you know the amount of honey produced with an acre, for example, of hyssop?
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I have read just like you have that Anise Hyssop (Agastache foeniculum) is a great nectar/pollen plant for honey bees-that it can support 100 colonies per acre. If that were really true, then every beekeeper would be tilling up their yards to plant it. And since they aren't, it must be 1) not true or 2) a very well kept secret. Remember the old saying that if is sounds to good to be true...?
Like all other honey plants, it is not perfect and nectar/ pollen production is variable, affected by climate, soil type, moisture, hours of sunlight, pests, diseases and competition from weeds. Many Anise Hyssop enthusiasts have found out the hard way that the plant requires a great amount of money and time to establish. It is not a matter of going out in the field with a planter and sowing 60 acres and then waiting to harvest the resulting honey. Growing a good stand of Anise Hyssop can be difficult.
However, I always encourage trying new honey plants if you have the acreage, time and money to do so. Read about the plant first and find out where it grows best and where it seems to produce the best honey crops. A great honey plant in one part of the country may be a flop in a different area. What some beekeepers do is to first find out which plants/trees grow best in their area and then they pick the best honey plants from this list.
Q Varroa Control In New Zealand
Since you worked on the research with Metarhizium, I thought you could answer a question for me. Since this fungus is being marketed for Varroa control in New Zealand, can you tell me how they solved the problems that researchers had with it here? Also, has anything been published regarding efficacy with this fungus in New Zealand?
On a completely different note, I understand that different bee dances are used for food or water sources, depending on distance from the hive. Which of the dances would be used when the hives are placed into an orchard when food is both near and far? Thanking you in advance,
Morris
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I have heard that Dr. Mark Goodwin in New Zealand found a "different" strain of Metarhizium that was longer lived and functions well within the hive environment. If it was that great and consistent, we may have heard more about it, but I have not. Let me know if you do.
In an orchard environment many times the smell of nectar overwhelms the need for specific direction to go a certain distance since it is completely obvious where food is. It becomes a visual/olfactory exercise. Have you ever been someplace and smelled some great cooking, great perfume or a great flower aroma and can follow it to the source? You didn't need Map Quest or a GPS; you just needed your nose first, then your eyes second? Just like a honey bee.
Q Winter / Skunks
Hello, I have a question regarding my beehives. I am wondering what is the ratio of sugar to water that I should be giving to my bees for winter-feeding. In addition, I wonder how much I should be giving, if I am taking about 30 lbs. of honey from their hives. What is the sugar to water equivalent?
One more question. I live in the suburbs of Chicago and have noticed some scratch marks at the entrance of my hives. What kind of animal would eat bees?
I appreciate your time in answering my questions. I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Stan
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Stan, for your part of the country having 60+ pounds of sealed honey or stored sugar syrup replacement is the goal. If you are not at this level, a 2 parts sugar/1 part water mixture should be fed now until that minimum amount of 60 pounds is reached. To combine two parts sugar to one part water, you will need to use hot water, but be sure to let it cool before feeding it to your bees. It is getting late, Stan. Get the weight up. This may be all a waste of time, however, if varroa control was not administered in late summer or early fall, so it is your call.
Skunks scratch at the hive entrance, bees get disturbed and because it is night, they don't fly. Instead, they walk out where they are eaten-a bee buffet for the skunks!
You can discourage the skunks by adding a strip of tacks (points up) along the front entrance, some beekeepers build screen wire cages to protect the front entrances.
The Classroom - November 2010
by Jerry Hayes
(excerpt)
From the "That's Interesting Dept"
I think we are all aware of the USDA Food Pyramid and the recommendations for serving sizes. So, this is kind of interesting. Mr. John Schall, president of American Farmland Trust, says, "For everyone in the United States to eat the minimum daily requirements of fruits and vegetables set by the USDA in 2005 dietary guidelines, an estimated 13 million more acres of farmland are needed." So, that means with the now higher USDA 2010 dietary guidelines of even more fruits and vegetables that even more land is needed if everyone eats the recommended daily allowance. That is a lot of land. How come we do not see more land in production for fruits and vegetables? Check the produce country of origin labels in the grocery store the next time you are there.
Q What Bees Eat and See
I have a question. When honey bees forage for pollen, is it true that they select pollen that is rich in nitrogen? How does the protein/nitrogen content of different plant species relate to the bees' ability to discriminate between these pollens? I remember reading something about this several years ago, but I am unsure if it's correct. I am checking with you because I don't want to give false information.
Also, when bees navigate over flowers, is it true they see ultraviolet light reflecting off the flower and then use this cue as a way to determine which flowers to visit? I would like to share this information with some fellow beekeepers.
Travis
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Protein contains a lot of nitrogen because it is part of protein. But, honey bees can't discriminate nitrogen (protein) in pollen well. Plus, honey bees do not eat pollen because they cannot digest the robust outer coat. Honey bees eat "bee bread" which is a fermented product, which releases the food material inside that has now been partially digested.
Honey bees are looking for nectar and pollen from entomophilous or insect- friendly flowers. This pollen is sticky and designed for insect transport. These flowers also provide their pollen with higher nutritional levels than wind-blown pollen. Wind-blown pollen has to be produced in extraordinary quantities because the chances of wind haphazardly taking it to the right flower parts are not good. So, not a lot of resources are packed into windblown pollen unlike insect-specific flowers, which do not have this problem. The bees' first choice is entomophilous pollen and if there is a lack of this, then they default to wind-blown pollens like bahia grass, corn or others. They collect not because they like it, but because it is a survival strategy.
Regarding your last second question, Google "honey bee see UV photos". There are lots of choices. Pretty cool.
Q Solar Wax Melter
Can Plexiglas be used instead of regular glass in a solar wax melter?
Thank you,
Joe Schultz
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It depends. In some situations the temperatures that build up and are retained in a solar wax melter can melt the Plexiglas or warp it, and the heat certainly makes it discolor sooner. It is definitely more breakage-resistant than glass in some of the heavier grades. However, glass can take heat better. Everything is a trade off.
Q "The Classroom" Book
I was reading my September issue of the American Bee Journal and I saw a question about when you were going to write another book. I didn't even know that you had written one, which brings me to my question: How can I get a copy of your book? I would be interested in reading it.
Thank you for your time. I really enjoy your classroom section in the ABJ!
Mark Lawrence
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Dadant & Sons sells the "Classroom" Book. You can buy it at www.dadant.com. Thanks for the compliment.
Classroom - October 2010
by Jerry Hayes
excerpt
Q Small Hive Beetle Chemical Warfare
Could we use diatomaceous earth (DE) instead of vegetable oil in the trap tray for Small Hive Beetle (SHB)? It would be a lot less messy, but would dust from the DE get up into the hive and hurt the bees? Would the beetles crawl back up into the hive and bring DE with them?
Steven P. Christman
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DE is not really robust enough for SHB. The SHB larvae cuticle (skin) is way too tough for the DE particle edges to pierce the cuticle and damage them You could try lime that you can get as a soil amendment to put in the tray. Keep the bees out of it, as it will produce chemical burns on them as well as other insects and you. It burns the SHB antennae and makes orientation tough for them. It doesn't kill them, just severely damages them.
Q Mix Them Up
When making splits, should we be concerned about taking frames loaded with brood nurse bees from different colonies and mixing them into the new box? Normally, when combining colonies we use newspaper to separate them initially. Is it that the nurse bees are not as defensive? Thank for a reply,
Ken Sikora
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Young bees are more easily mixed than older workers that are transitioning to becoming defensive foragers. Young naïve bees mix well from different colonies and adjust to new conditions readily. What you don't want to swap around are diseases like American foulbrood/European foulbrood/
Chalkbrood, etc. So, be sure you are good at disease ID as you scan the frames of brood to transfer.
Q Poison By Any Other Name
Hello Jerry. This is Tony from Southern California. I hope you are doing well. I have a little question for you. I have around 15 gallons of sugar water and honey syrup that is beginning to ferment. Will it be okay to feed the bees later on or do I need to do anything with it now? Is it okay the way it is right now? You see, I don't want to bees to "get drunk". I want them working instead of sleeping. Your column is always interesting and useful.
Tony Nizetich
Temecula, CA
Classroom - September 2010
by Jerry Hayes
excerpt
Hygienic Bees
The helpful interconnectedness of the beekeeping world is truly amazing. There are lots of good people out there. Here is one small example. I didn’t know what the photo below was showing, so I asked colleagues. Dr. Medhat Nasr from Canada said that Dr. Jeff Harris, ARS/USDA, Baton Rouge might know and voila! He did!
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Jeff, I was sent a photo showing what the beekeeper called “volcanoing”. This is where the bees bring up the edges of the caps on brood and it looks like a volcano. The bees never seem to cap the developing brood; they just do this other partial capping activity. It is seen more in the fall than in spring, but can still be spotted throughout the year. What do you think?
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Hello Jerry, I added some white lines to highlight the areas that look like hygiene. There are trails and two circles around cells that look like recapped pupae. The raised uncapped pupae appear to be in the process of being recapped. So, what are the bees chasing? The uncapped pupae with the raised edges are the result of hygienic bees enlarging the cell diameter to chase something (wax moth larva) around the bee pupa. When they recap it afterwards, the entire wax moth trail will have a raised and discolored appearance (as you see along the white trail). So, my first thought is that this is a hygienic track from bees chasing a wax moth larvae. I say that because there are so many recapped cells and a few uncapped pupae in a single path that it must be the result of a local phenomenon. It may be a L1 or L2 wax moth larva that can be easily missed with the naked eye. I often see this kind of trail and under a microscope, you can usually find a small wax moth larva. The only other critter that could lead to a localized hygienic response like that would be small hive beetle larvae, but a trail that large would also probably show some slime or soiling (which is not apparent).
Having said that, if this is an extremely hygienic colony, they may be uncapping most or all pupae, inspecting them, and then recapping all of those that they do not remove. The two circled pupae could be recapped—and all around them are other pupae with a similar appearance of the cap (what looks like a sunken hole in the middle). This is often caused when a hygienic bee uncaps to smell or look inside, and other bees recap the pupa and never remove it. Some highly hygienic colonies will do this, and we don’t know why yet.
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Thank you Jeff. Interesting that it may be a seemingly “good trait” like hygienic behavior in response to something else like wax moth or…whatever and then repaired. Question: Can there be too much hygienic behavior?
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It is interesting; I have found that many stocks of bees are very sensitive to wax moth larvae. I think that the relationship between that hive pest and bees is older than some of the new problems (e.g. Varroa), and bees in general have developed a very good detection and removal ability using hygiene to remove wax moths. However, colonies good at hygienic removal of wax moths are not necessarily good at removing Varroa, chalkbrood or anything else. This seems a little odd to me EXCEPT that the cues for detection are likely different. In the case of wax moths, the bees need to smell the wax moth larvae and NOT necessarily any odors related to an injured host bee. Detection of disease, dead or sick bee larvae probably involve detection of “sick bee” odors.
Yes, I think there can be too much hygiene. I don’t have hard evidence, just a sense of things after many years of selecting for very high hygienic behavior. It seems that extremely hygienic colonies will actually investigate all or about 90% of the capped pupae in a brood nest—uncapping each one, smelling and looking inside, and if they don’t remove an infested or diseased host pupa, they will reseal or recap the cell. I have seen several cycles of uncapping-recapping for a single pupa.
The problem with this behavior is probably two-fold: 1. The cell cap is there for a reason (e.g. humidity control within the brood cell) and removing it for prolonged periods of time could be detrimental to the developing larva and 2. Certain bacteria can be transmitted in the vegetative stage (e.g. European foulbrood bacterium) by hygienic bees. So, the very act of patrolling and hygienically inspecting too many cells could actually accentuate propagation of a bacterium that causes disease. Again, this is mostly speculation, but there must be some reason that Nature does not allow hygienic behavior to become as high as we can make it with breeding. There must be a cost to resistance with hygiene, and we still do not fully understand what it is.
Classroom - August 2010
by Jerry Hayes
Hello Jerry—I recently learned of the possibility of a “Biblical proportion” of grasshoppers this summer. In response I ordered a 1 lb. bag of Semaspore Bait. (See the information below that I copied from the website). After researching various sources and the company, I purchased the product from them. The evidence indicates that this product WILL NOT harm my bees. Because I trust your judgment, I am emailing you to confirm my decision to use the product...so, what can you tell me? (We have a large orchard and several gardens...grasshoppers have been a problem in the past, so I just want to make sure before I use this product in a proactive response). Thanks for your time Jerry!
From the mountains of North Idaho
Linda Maureen
“Semaspore Bait contains Nosema locustae, a naturally occurring grasshopper control. After eating Semaspore grasshoppers become sick, eat less, and begin to die. The disease spreads to healthy grasshoppers through cannibalism. In 2-4 weeks, 50% of the population will die, and most survivors will be infected to continue spreading the disease. Infected survivors eat 75% less than healthy grasshoppers and lay fewer eggs. Safe for people, pets and the environment. OMRI Listed for use in organic production. Apply 1 pound Semaspore Bait per acre, when grasshoppers are young (1/4 to 1/2-inch long). Heavy infestations may require repeat applications. Note: Semaspore has an 8 week shelf life - 5 months if refrigerated.”
Active Ingredient:
Nosema locustae ..... 0.05%
Contains 1.0 x 109 viable Nosema spores per pound)
Other Ingredients ..... 99.95%
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Linda, that sounds scary. The Gulf of Mexico is full of oil, undocumented aliens are flooding into the U.S., the deficit is out of control, volcanoes and earthquakes are everywhere and now GRASSHOPPERS!
There are probably 30+ different kinds of Nosema that are specific to different kinds of insects, from beetles, to wasps, to honey bees and Grasshoppers. Nosema locustae is specific to Grasshoppers and shouldn’t affect honey bees. Nosema locustae is the microsporidian that is combined with bran that young nymph stage grasshoppers eat. It destroys their gut over a period of time. Other grasshoppers eat the dead ones and it spreads. It is pretty slow acting though and generally only affects about 50% of the population of grasshoppers.
LINDA WRITES BACK
Good morning Jerry,
Thanks for your response! I can always count on your expert advice and rich humor. Thank God for the simple pleasures in life, like our honey bees!
Linda Maureen
Q “Potentiated” Pollen
Jerry, I hope you remember me. I live in Tennessee and have a brother in Florida who called me the other day asking questions about “potentiated” bee pollen. I know there is some evidence out there that implies that regular bee pollen is difficult to digest. I have taken bee pollen off and on for several years, and I know it is helpful to me. However, my brother found this on the Internet or somewhere, and I felt like you could shed some light on this subject. What he found comes from New Zealand and they claim a lot of things like their potentiated pollen provides 80 times the nutritional value that regular pollen provides. Thanks for your time.
Jim Garrison
President
Tennessee Beekeepers Association
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Hi Jim, How could I forget you! Pollen, the male genetic element of the plant’s reproductive process, is crucial to the plant species survival. It must be protected, and preserved in the process of having an insect, in our case pick-up, transport and re-deposit the pollen grain on the appropriate flower part (stigma) in order for the fertilization process to begin. This must happen even though the pollen grain is exposed to heat, humidity, sunlight, getting bumped around, etc. Tough trip. The plant protects pollen grains by enclosing them in a tough resilient shell. Our digestive systems have an almost impossible task in trying to get digestive juices in and nutrition out. In order to obtain any benefit from the pollen grain, it must be broken open somehow by crushing, grinding, or sonication to get to the contents. The marketing claim by the product’s producers that it has about 80 times the nutritional value is probably because the pollen grain is broken open to expose the goodies. It is “potentiated” because it is broken open:)
Q Pure Sugar
Dave and I are trying to produce the “purest honey on Earth”. To achieve this goal of “zero pesticides and man-made residues” we need your advice on the source of “pure sugar” to feed the bees that will not concentrate pesticides and other man-made residues in the “bee food”.
The FDA has become very concerned over the sources of foreign honey that are heavily contaminated with pollutants that are coming from China, Russia and India. We would like to be the source of “blank (no manmade component) honey” and be scientifically certified as the source of this “blank” honey. So, we need “pure” sugar.
Do you know of a source?
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I have been asked this question several times in the last year or so. I am not aware of any “organic” production from sugar beets or sugar cane that is at a price that one could easily justify as a food supplement for honey bees. In many cases having enough “carbohydrate” resources available is a management decision. In a perfect world the bees would collect/produce enough honey that the beekeeper manager could leave on an appropriate amount for the bees’ use or be able to feed extracted honey back to the colony from a secure known source.
Feeding sugar solutions to honey bees should be minimal and for a reason i.e. survival or the production of beeswax to build comb quick and then move on to natural sources.
Q Problems in Pakistan
I am asking you this question on behalf of my fellow beekeeper who lives in a remote place and cannot communicate with you. He is keeping 80 beehives in D.G. Khan, a city of Pakistan. It’s a hot place reaching a temperature of up to 50°C in summers. He keeps hives there throughout year with small distance migrations within 50 kms thrice a year. He has observed strange behavior in few of the colonies. The flying bees, when leaving the hive, do not fly but instead crawl out of the hive, go to a distance of one yard and start to rub their hind legs and then take their flight. From inside, the colonies seem healthy so I wonder what causes them to exhibit this behavior? Could this be the precursor to some big problem?
Naveed Ahmad
Pakistan
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Generally speaking, when one sees honey bees crawling and rubbing their legs or grooming themselves in this manner, it is a sign of some type of toxin issue (whether from varroa chemical treatments, as applied by the beekeeper, or from toxins picked up in the environment such as in production agriculture settings). This type of crawling in more temperate regions of Europe or North America can also be sign of tracheal mite or Nosema infestations, but in Pakistan with 50°C temperatures, I do not think this is the challenge. So, the question is: If the problem is “chemicals” of one type or another, what are they doing to the general health of the colony and the developing brood? If the bees’ lives are shortened by even a few days, then the whole colony’s balance/ecology is thrown off.
Q Icky Combs and Queenless Hives
Hello Jerry. I believe this topic has been addressed in a previous column, but I’ve been unable to locate the past ABJ issue. Is it all right to put honey supers on a hive that have a small amount of black mold on the frames? If not, can you recommend a safe and effective cleaning procedure? Or, are these frames bound for the solar wax melter?
On a second issue: One month ago a thorough check of my six hives revealed one hive that was not queen-right and the other five seemingly all right with a satisfactory amount of brood in various stages of development, but with an abundance of drones and drone cells. I gave the queenless hive a frame of uncapped brood from another hive in the hopes that they would produce a new queen. My hives have, in the past, produced successful and productive supersedure queens and with this season’s abundance of drones, I counted on their ability to mate a virgin queen.
One month later I was back to add honey supers to these hives and to check on my attempt to re-queen and found all six hives were queenless. The hives had pretty close to 50% drones and no honey or brood. Each hive had tried to requeen, as evidenced by six or more queen cells in each (some looked as though they had successfully produced a queen - others were only partial cells). But apparently, none of the queens had mated, despite the high drone population.
I’m in the process of ordering new queens for installation this week. Do you recommend any other tactics to get these hives back on track? Should I try to kill some/most of the drones so the workers can produce some excess honey? Is there a recommended way to reduce the drone population? Thanks for your help and always-valuable advice.
Susan R. Morgan
Texas
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A weak household bleach or vinegar solution are both good cleaning agents for icky, moldy combs.
Your unfortunate news about all six of your hives going queenless at the same time is certainly unusual. One possibility is that your queen problems could be due to African Honey Bee (AHB) genetic introgression from “open mating” of supersedure/replacement queens. AHB loves to reproduce by swarming up to 15-20 times per year in Texas. This spreads AHB genetics around quickly. Drone congregation areas can be dominated by AHB drones and voila you have colonies that do AHB-like things more.
Ordering marked queens from a producer participating in BMP’s (Best Management Practices) as a tool to keep AHB genetics out and keeping manageable European honey bee genetics viable will help. If you look into your colonies and then see a queen not marked, then you know things have changed and you need to change them back.
Q Safer Treatments
We’ve been hearing a little about the use of essential oils such as spearmint, lemongrass and thyme to treat bees for disease/parasites. We are a small commercial apiary and are concerned about the amount of chemicals we are exposing our bees to. Do you think this is a viable treatment for commercial use? Where can we get research information on this type of treatment? As always thank you for your help.
Scott VanDerwalker
VeeBee Honey and Pollination
Buhl, Idaho
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Scott, I think that you are thinking about the right things and the right direction to go in. You are asking the questions that more people should be asking. There are products on the market right now that meet your varroa control needs more sanely. Apiguard and ApiLife-Var are two products using essential oils that have excellent efficacy and not the level of toxic residue concerns as some of the “strip” varroa products. These products certainly are not benign in a colony, but the documented short- and long-term side effects or collateral damage is not as comprehensive as other products. Nothing is perfect. Remember, in regards to varroa control, broadly speaking, you are trying to kill a little bug on a bigger bug. This is tough to do without negatively affecting the big bug (honey bee) in small subtle ways.
In my mind diet, nutrition, environmental toxins, the sequestering (storing) of chemicals in beeswax, genetics and honey bee stress (whatever that is) are all of the other variables that are impacting honey bees. But not all honey bees are dying. The parallel is human health. When a new novel human disease makes its appearance in a population, it never affects everyone. The question is: What variables make someone get a full blown fatal case of H1N1, Ebola or Hanta virus and someone in the same exposure setting not?
In honey bees, my opinion is that 80% of the problem is varroa. Controlling them safely for the bees and the beekeeper are the goals without causing more long-term problems.
Q Share and Share Alike
Our bee club is considering buying extracting equipment that can be used by club members. We have considered storing it with one member and renting it out. We have also thought about having it stored permanently in a location where members could come to use the equipment. Both approaches raise questions regarding cleaning up after use, liability if users or observers get stung, tracking who has it now, and what would be required if used in a permanent/stationary location such as water, power, tables, etc.
Do you know of any clubs that have attempted something similar? I appreciate the role you play in getting information out to hobby beekeepers.
Regards,
Doug Morris,
North Carolina
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Doug, bee clubs have been doing this or considering doing this since Adam or at least Cain and Abel. It all comes down to the ethics, morals and level of trust you have in the rank and file membership. All of the concerns you note are real. In the days when local clubs had maybe only 15 members, this was all a bit easier because everybody knew each other and there was some fraternal social pressure that kept extractors clean, facilities washed, not sticky and care and respect for equipment was at a high level. Now with local or regional clubs having 50-75-100+ members, things are not as “simple” as they used to be. Many clubs have now chosen to have a central permanent location, sometimes at a larger beekeeper’s “honey house” that has the dedicated facilities to allow safe, clean extraction and collection of honey. Many times this is better than somebody’s garage or basement when you are trying to harvest a pure food product. The club may have several “extraction days” and everyone gets together to share the work, beekeeping stories, and any blame that goes around. I have heard that if the larger beekeeper’s equipment is used, there is a per pound charge for the use of facilities.
Having the club bring an extractor, trying to keep up with where it is, dealing with cleanliness, dings/dents and broken parts can be done, but you need a dedicated person to do all this stuff. (See Howard Scott’s article on this subject on page 751 of the August 2009 ABJ.)
Q Chalkbrood
What causes chalkbrood? At this point I have three hives which have chalkbrood that didn’t have it before. I know there is no government-registered medication for it, but was wondering if there is anything that can be done to fix this?
John McQuown
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John, the fungus Ascosphaera apis causes chalkbrood. Fungal spores attack honey-bee larvae. The larvae become moldy with the white fungus hyphae, the vegetative part of the fungi. Because of all of the fungus hyphae, the larvae turns into a white chalky- looking pellet. When the fungus is ready to reproduce, it sporulates. These “fruiting” bodies are black and the chalky “mummy” takes on a black appearance. These hard pellets of fungus can rattle in the comb when shaken and sometimes, as the bees try to clean the cells out, they appear on the bottom board and the entrance landing.
Some honey bees are genetically predisposed to be infected by chalkbrood. Some Australian bees that have been imported into the U.S. have shown a high incidence of chalkbrood. Sometimes in the spring of the year, when temperatures are cool and damp and the brood is expanding faster than the colony can keep them warm and fed, chalkbrood appears, but then disappears as the weather stabilizes. The rule of thumb has been that if springtime chalkbrood doesn’t self regulate and go away, then requeening with a different queen from a different supplier than the susceptible stock is a good remedy. This generally takes care of the problem. The new bees clean up the hive and all is good.
Q American Foulbrood
Thank you very much for the awesome column you continue to write for ABJ. I love reading it every month. I have been keeping bees for nearly 10 years now, and I still am having occasional problems with AFB. I have destroyed nearly all of my old frames by fire and scorched my brood boxes with propane flame, but I hate to discard my good frames containing considerable amounts of stored honey.
My questions for you are:
1. Is there a simple way for the hobby beekeeper to test for American Foulbrood (AFB)?
2. Is there any practical way to disinfect my AFB-tainted frames by radiation, etc? Thanks in advance for your savvy assistance. I hope to hear from you soon.
Yours truly,
Douglas Stream
Belgrade, Montana
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Thank you for the Classroom compliment Douglas. As you know, American foulbrood (AFB) is primarily identified visually. Everything that is in or on a colony of honey bees is first and foremost visual. Diseases, either bacterial or viral, mites, chalkbrood, chilled brood, etc., all have symptoms that are most easily “seen”. However, there are AFB “test kits” available commercially www.vita-europe.com to confirm if your diagnosis from visual cues is actually AFB or not.
We have radiation facilities in Florida that are used to treat some fruits and vegetables to kill pathogens that cause rot and extend shelf life. We have gone through the exercise to have the dosage calculated to treat pallet loads (minimum) and neutralize AFB and most other harmful organisms in hive bodies, frames and comb. The cost, per pallet load, is approximately $7.00 per hive body with 10 frames/comb. This is actually a pretty cost effective route. However, these facilities cannot guarantee that they can disinfect full uncapped frames of honey. These are just too thick for the radiation to penetrate with completely reliable results. Extract this honey first before processing these frames through a radiation facility. This honey is perfectly safe for human consumption, just not for honey bee consumption.
Where commercial radiation facilities are not feasible or available, culling and destroying all combs with active AFB or dried scale is necessary. Burning is the most effective method of eradicating AFB spores. Some honey bees are genetically pre-disposed to becoming infected with AFB. So, replacing existing queen stock with other queens bred for hygienic behavior is in order. Scorching woodenware and empty wood frames is not really necessary as the infective AFB spores are in the cells in the beeswax comb, not on the surface of woodenware.
Sometimes the big unknown is whether or not you have neighboring beekeepers around you who have AFB and think that antibiotics will cure AFB? They are delusional. When things get tough for active, vegetative AFB when antibiotics are applied, they simply form long-lived (decades) spores and are a reservoir for future AFB infections. If your neighboring beekeepers are not doing the same sanitary, hygienic things you are doing, then you will continue to get AFB occasionally over time. Hang in there. You can do it.
Q Specific Nectar Plants Information
Jerry, could you point me to a web site that has the plants with the most nectar for bees, starting from the most to the least. I am looking to plant some crops for my bees and would like to know.
Thanks,
Tom O’Neil
Powhatan, Virginia
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Tom, I am not sure there is a web site that covers all honey plants to the degree that you want. Certainly there are some tree, shrub and small flowering plants that you can generalize on, but a tried and true list is difficult. Try searching the Internet for honey plants and you will probably find some reasonably good web sites and information. Then, try localizing your computer search to honey plants that are good for the Mideastern U.S. or Virginia. Certainly, tulip-poplar, sumac, black locust, clover, thistle, persimmon and sourwood would have to rank high for the Mideastern U.S.
Nectar secretion is variable, based on climate, soil moisture, soil ph, sunlight, average temp, temperature swing from night until day and other factors. Now with (global warming) climate change, plants which did or didn’t grow in a particular area or region now can or can’t. I would contact the oldest person in your local beekeeping club and ask him or her the same question. You will probably get a more accurate answer. Plus, the information that he/she provides will be localized for your area, so you will know that it is more accurate.
American Honey Plants by Frank Pellett was probably the last really comprehensive book on the subject. However, it was last reprinted in 1976, and even then it was starting to sound dated since most of the research was done in the early to mid 20th Century. Dr. George Ayers, our ABJ monthly honey plants columnist, is probably the foremost expert on American honey plants right now. He authored an excellent chapter (100 pages) on honey plants in The Hive and the Honey Bee that is available from Dadant & Sons, Inc. www.dadant.com. It is currently the most up-to-date information on American honey plants that I know about.
The Medhat Nasr
and A. J. Williamson Varroa Shaker
In my mind varroa is the most significant health challenge of honey bees. If we could eliminate varroa, in my opinion we would get rid of 80% of our problems. Well, we are not going to eliminate varroa entirely, but we can treat sanely, rationally and safely.
But, how do you know when to treat? Well, when you have identified varroa at the “economic threshold level” (Lots of previous ABJ articles on this), then you treat or modify your Integrated Pest Management (IPM) strategy. How many of you are treating because somebody told you to do it at a certain time, season, or month? How many of you are treating only when it is needed based on monitoring of varroa mite infestation? Is monitoring, surveying, sampling more of a pain than it needs to be and is that why you are or are not doing it?
Here is a modification of the standard screened top jar method that has been used for alcohol or powdered sugar from Dr. Medhat Nasr and A.J. Williamson from Alberta (Canada) Agriculture and Rural Development. This method was briefly explained in the May issue of ABJ in Abstract 20 (page 504) of the Proceedings of the American Bee Research Conference. However, some readers may have missed it or not fully understood its improved efficiency for monitoring varroa infestations. It is a great extension on the original design; it is effective and reliable. Win-win.
Take two 500 ml transparent plastic jars, cut the centers out of both lids and put in 8 mesh screen sandwiched between the two lids back to back and glue them together. This makes a strainer-closure that can keep the two jars connected mouth to mouth (see photo). Collect 3-400 bees from the brood nest area in one of the jars holding alcohol. Then, the second jar is screwed back on. The varroa hand shaker is vigorously shaken for 1 min. Then, see how many varroa you have. The varroa hand shaker is flipped upside down to keep the bees on the top of the screen and allow the mites and alcohol to pass through the screen into the empty jar. Now count the mites. Pretty slick. Make one and use it!
Classroom - July 2010
by Jerry Hayes
excerpt
. . . . . . .Boy Scouts and the Beekeeping Merit Badge
In the April Classroom I alerted you to the efforts being made to reinstate the Beekeeping merit badge in the Boy Scouts. Many of you sent letters to the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) in support of reinstating the Beekeeping Merit Badge. I even received a letter (see letter) from Mr. Robert Mazzuca, the chief scout executive, in response to the "Classroom" call to action a couple months ago-pretty wishy-washy, but a response nonetheless.
Many of you have told me that you received replies also. Some of you have been told by the BSA that the Beekeeping Merit Badge was "too hard" to obtain.
As of April 28th the BSA has offered new merit badges for Cub Scout Webelos for VIDEO GAMES! They can get pins and belt loops for video games! Give me a break! What a sad commentary on where we are as a society. The Scouts have strayed from the original intent of the program. Lord Baden Powell is spinning in his grave. We need more opportunities to raise boys to be real men. Maybe I am just getting too old, but I don't think awards for video games is it.
West Virginia Beekeepers
Back in late spring of this year I had the distinct honor and opportunity to participate in the West Virginia Beekeepers' Association spring meeting. I had worked previously with Wade Stiltner and Paul Poling in the West Virginia Dept. of Agriculture on some joint apiculture training a few years back. The Heartland Apicultural Society (HAS) held their meeting a few summers back in Huntington, WV and life intervened to prevent me from being able to attend that meeting. So, when I was invited to come to the WVBA spring meeting, I jumped at the chance. Other than the good people I already knew in beekeeping from West Virginia, I really didn't know that much about WV beekeeping or West Virginia in general.
The meeting was held at a very cool place outside of Huntington called the Heritage Farm and Museum, http://www.heritagefarmmuseum.com. A tremendous amount of time, energy and resources have been given by the Perry family, who have championed this project to give the rest of us a glimpse of WV History through the farm and museums. It is really a great place for a beekeepers' meeting and a terrific getaway. Dan O'Hanlon, Gabe and Rhonna Blatt and a whole host of other active and engaged WV Beekeepers made this a smooth, enjoyable and information-filled meeting. There were a number of great talks and training sessions, not the least being Dr. Larry Connor conducting his well-known Queen Rearing Workshops.
Attendance records were broken with 207 attendees from West Virginia, as well as Ohio, Kentucky, Virginia and Florida. I am flatlander from Florida, so the mountains, hills, ridges, hollows, hardwood trees and fast flowing mountain rivers were very, very beautiful.
There is a push for more internal queen production by the WVBA, so that is the reason the association sponsored Dr. Larry Connor's Queen Rearing Course. With the opportunity to access remote locations in the state that allows control over drone distribution, West Virginia has a large advantage to significantly and positively add to queen production-queens that will be hardy, reliable and lead big healthy colonies.
Keep an eye on West Virginia. They are quietly moving their beekeeping, queen production and specialty honey production forward strongly. I wouldn't be surprised if we were looking to WV queen breeders in a few years to purchase queens.
Q Washington Requeening
Hi Jerry. I am one of your loyal readers out in Western Washington. I am wondering if you have an opinion whether annually requeening is a good hedge against queen-related problems or is more expense and effort than it is worth? I keep fewer than five hives, depending on winter survival.
If it is a worthwhile endeavor, is it best to do in spring, fall, or some other time? And, what other considerations or recommendations are there for a successful requeening regimen? Thanks for all you do for the beekeeping community.
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The first question that comes to mind is: What challenges are you experiencing that are causing you to consider this? Are the queens you have purchased less of what you want the second year than the first? Do they lay less? Do you have less worker brood? Do you have more drones? Are you having more swarming the second year?
The quality of commercially produced queens has not been very good the last few years. We have seen lots of "supersedures". The colony is not recognizing the queen as a queen and replacing her-then replacing the replacement. Data shows even in the best circumstances, queens do not last very long, but this is even worse than that.
We, the industry, have been taught that spring requeening is the best. It certainly is easier with lower colony populations. But, probably the best time to requeen for successful overwintering is to do so in late summer or early fall after mite treatments have been completed. You have a new queen that can contribute lots of young "winter bees" and is ready to go in the spring for quick build up with no delays or breaks in the brood cycle that can occur with spring queen replacement. Give it a try.
Q Can I Feed Raw Sugar to Bees?
Dennis from Lonestar Farms referred this question to you; it may be a little early, but I can start planning now. I raise ribbon cane and some sorghum and I usually make some syrup and sugar in the fall. I am new to beekeeping, but I was wondering if the raw sugar I make in the fall would be okay to mix with water to make the sugar syrup for fall feeding?
The Classroom
June 2010
Excerpt
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Q Confused
I would like to start by saying I really enjoy your "Classroom" section in the American Bee Journal. As a new subscriber to the magazine, I find it a must read every month.
I am new to beekeeping this year, and I am finding that I have a lot more questions than answers, as I'm sure it is with most new beekeepers, so I will go ahead and dive in head first with my first question.
I have read in several articles that it is suggested to feed Fumagilin-B to all newly installed package bees for the control of Nosema, and then on the other hand, I have been told not to feed it until you see signs of Nosema in your hives. So, my first question is: Do I need to feed it or not? I am starting out with 3 lb. packages in brand new 10-frame deep equipment. I am also using wood-bound 10-frame hive-top feeders with two chambers that are divided. If I need to feed Fumagilin-B, do I need to put it in both chambers, or just one? The mixing instructions that came with Nosema say to feed 1 gallon to each packaged colony. If I feed it in both chambers, that will be two gallons for each colony. I would also know how long to feed it to them before I stop.
The mixing instructions are this... 1/2 gal water + 8 lbs sugar = 1 gal syrup and then add 1 rounded teaspoon of Fumagilin-B. I forgot to mention that my feeders will hold 1 gallon in each chamber.
I'm sure these are some silly questions, but I really don't know how to proceed. Any help that you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time,
Mark Lawrence
P.S. Are there any ill effects to bees that are fed Fumagilin-B?
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These are not silly questions at all Mark. I generally do not like to or suggest the use of "antibiotics" for prophylactic use such as feeding antibiotics to prevent a disease. As an example, are you now taking antibiotics because you are afraid of getting an ear infection? Probably not and it's the same thing with feeding antibiotics to prevent American or European Foulbrood. It doesn't work very well and has negative side effects.
But, and in this world there are buts, Nosema ceranae, the predominant "Nosema", is almost an endemic 24/7/365 disease pressure. Fumagilin-B still seems to have some activity against Nosema ceranae, which has fundamentally replaced Nosema apis. So, I would suggest following label directions for mixing, dosage and time frame. If you have a partitioned 2-gallon feeder, only use one side to feed the Fumagilin-B to be sure that they get a proper dosage in the proper time interval. After this, you can use the feeder, both sides, to supplementary feed as needed.
Fumagilin-B, like any other chemical, is a stressor on honey bees. It is tough on them, but not more so than Nosema. Take care and enjoy the learning curve. It will be fun.
Q A Smelly Situation
I have bee frames that were put away in plastic bags for the winter. When I opened the bags, I noticed they had a mouse nest inside. The frames are new and I would like to know how I could clean or disinfect the frames before putting on the beeswax foundation. Thank you and awaiting your reply.
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Mouse urine is pretty stinky. Use soap, water and maybe some baking soda and a sponge or brush. Or, take the easier way out and buy some new frames. Even in tough economic times, they are still pretty cheap.
The Classroom - May 2010
(excerpt)
by Jerry Hayes
Q Should I Buy Queen Cells?
Since queens seem to be dying shortly after I get them, I am considering ripe queen cells. But, I have read that one has to very careful when handling them. The Postal Service is not designed to be careful. What are the chances of getting them from their breeding places to Illinois alive and well?
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Dave Miksa in Florida raises about 100,000 cells each year for sale to mainly commercial beekeepers. They have developed a system to transport hundreds of queen cells by the buyer. It is important to keep queen cells at a certain age in a certain position, warm, humid and not jiggled, bounced or shaken if possible. That leaves the Postal Service, UPS, Fed Ex, DHL or any other commercial delivery service out of the picture. Drive to Florida, pick up your several hundred queen cells and drive back to Illinois with the queen cell transport box securely next to you in the passenger seat.
Q Politically Touchy
What do you think about all of the Australian packages of bees coming in for almond pollination?
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You are right Jeremy, lots of package bees from Australia have been brought in over the last several years to fill in the gaps caused by shortages of U.S. colonies. Approximately 1.3 million honey-bee colonies participate in almond pollination for this $2 billion dollar crop. California can only provide about 500,000 colonies internally, so the rest have to come from outside the state. Almonds absolutely, positively have to have honey bees to pollinate or their $2 billion value slips and growers obviously do not want it to slip. Can Australian packages come into the United States economically and contribute to almond pollination? The answer seems to be yes, which is a good thing for the almond industry.
However, some Australian honey-bee import critics speculate that Australian bees are weak genetically because they have not been challenged by varroa and other varroa-implicated health issues. They have not participated in the survival of the fittest scenario. According to some critics, Australian bees seem to succumb to various new parasites and diseases rather quickly in the United States.
The problem from my perspective is that if they survive long enough to possibly provide virgin queens and drones, these Australian honey bees can mate with our "survivor" bees and, of course, make them weaker genetically, compounding problems we already have. However, the $2 billion dollar almond industry will not be denied. Nevertheless, if Australian honey-bee imports should falter for any reason, and U.S. colony availability continues to worsen, look for the Mexican border to open up to them to bring their AHB colonies to the California almond groves.
Q Nosema... Fungus or Protozoan?
Jerry, in a recent communication with a member of the Washington State Beekeepers Association, I was told that Nosema is caused by a "fungus". This was a surprise, as I believed it was caused by a microsporidian. So, my first question: Cause of Nosema...fungus or microsporidian?
Second question: If it is a fungus, why does an antibiotic (Fumagilin-B) work at all, since antibiotics are effective on bacteria, not fungi?
Thank you,
Morris
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Hello Morris. You are correct that the causative organism is a microsporidian, either Nosema apis or Nosema ceranae. Nosema is one of those diseases, which has both protozoan- and fungus-like characteristics. It was classified as a one-celled protozoan before and now with more advanced taxonomic techniques, it is a micro (really small) sporidian (spore-forming) life form.
Fumagilin-B, the commonly recommended antibiotic to control this bee disease, is also used widely for patients with HIV/AIDS because it controls fungus growth in people with compromised immune systems caused by this disease. Remember, antibiotic means anti (against) biotic (life). The term antibiotic is a catchall for bactericides, virocides, fungicides, etc.
All of that to say-The causative agent for Nosema is now classified as a microsporidian. And, sometimes Fumagilin-B works and sometimes it doesn't. Now that should clear it up :)
Q Chemical-Free Beekeeping
Hi Jerry, what I want to know is information you may have on keeping bees free of chemical use. Many Thanks.
Buddy
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I think using a variety of integrated pest management (IPM) techniques can get you away from many chemicals generally used in beehives Buddy. Hygienic queens, screened bottom boards, drone removal, powdered sugar dusting every 3-4 days, rotating 3 frames or so of comb out yearly, and continuous surveying will keep you on top of most varroa and disease issues. These techniques are certainly not perfect, but pretty good. You may still have varroa population booms at times that have to be knocked back with Apiguard or Mite Away II.
Removing the infected comb and destroying it can control bacterial disease like American foulbrood (AFB). Sometimes antibiotics have to be used as a tool. The key point is that you have to know your bees and be a good manager and that requires you to keep tabs on what is going on inside the colonies. This is certainly possible, but proves hard for most people. But, you are not most people, so you can do it!
Q Confused About Sugar Dusting
I may have missed an episode on sugar dusting bees for varroa. Please, could you explain where you stand on this issue? I refer to the abstract of your paper in the Journal of Apicultural Research, which concludes that powdered sugar dusting did not significantly reduce varroa levels and your continuing advice in this column, which appear to contradict one another. Thank you.
Regards,
Ben Rees
United Kingdom
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Ben, I am old enough, and you may be old enough as well, to know that there are vast swatches of gray in this world and relatively few firmly black and white, yes-or-no answers. When you focus on worldly "science", it is a process that is always in flux with new information arising to update previous data, which at one time was thought to be the final answer or at least pretty close. So, I guess you are right that I have seemed to contradict myself.
Dr. Amanda Ellis, who led on this research in our lab, did great work and gave some insight into powdered sugar dusting within the parameters of the research over a year's time. The data presented in the Journal of Apicultural Research paper was that when you treat every few weeks that it certainly knocks off phoretic mites, but the varroa adjust and increase reproduction. So, over a year's time, even though these treatments remove lots of mites, the mite count has not significantly changed. Would it have grown more if the mites had not been removed? But, the population certainly seemed to hold its own.
We have done some preliminary trials using powdered sugar dusting every 3-4 days to remove phoretic mites as they continuously emerge from reproducing in cells. This does not give them a chance to re-enter cells and reproduce. They cannot catch up biologically or reproductively. After doing this for 4 -5 weeks, we have covered all brood cycles and mite levels are very, very low. Is this labor-intensive method practical is the question? Probably it is for some, but not for the majority.
I think removing mites from your colonies of honey bees is a good idea. And, removing mites using powdered sugar is a sane idea that works under application methods as noted above. The more you do it, the better the long-term results are. I would rather someone try using powdered sugar as often as possible to remove mites and hopefully postpone a "chemical" treatment than simply go to "chemicals " first. So, thus arises my apparently contradictory stand. I hope it makes sense!
The Classroom - April 2010
(excerpt)
by Jerry Hayes
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Boy Scouts and Beekeeping Jerry back in 1964, when I was in the Boy Scouts, I was flipping through the merit badge book. I noticed that there was a merit badge offered for beekeeping. I was so excited that I immediately applied for the merit badge book through my troop master. From that day on, my life had changed forever. I have had bees in my life since. I have had as many as 500 hives. I have worked for commercial beekeepers in the USA and Germany.
Now that I am in a position in my life to slow down, I decided that I would offer some of my time to the Boy Scouts and help get the young ones interested in receiving their beekeeping merit badge. I called the "Boy Scouts of America" to inquire about some troops in my local area. I was totally blown away when I was told that the beekeeping merit badge was no longer offered and hadn't been in a long time. I thought that the person was joking. It is no wonder there are fewer hobby and sideline beekeepers.
By the time our youth get to be in their upper teens, they have other interests like video. I always believed that starting our youth with good things early in their life was the best answer for their success. Any ideas on how to put a little sting under the "Boy Scouts of America"? Our youth and our country would be better off if we could offer beekeeping through the Scouting program.
Dennis Bryan, Texas
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The squeaky wheel gets the grease, Dennis. The louder the squeak (more people), The faster things happen. How can I help you squeak? This is not a new occurrence, as you probably know by now. The Boy Scouts eliminated Beekeeping as a merit badge in 1995. It was created in 1915. However, with the resurgence of public interest in preserving nature and the environment, as well as producing one's own food, perhaps it's time to bring back the Beekeeping merit badge. What do you think Boy Scouts?
RESPONSE FROM DENNIS Maybe you could mention this problem in the magazine since that is a pretty big wheel that touches a lot of people, including scoutmasters. Ask for suggestions from the readers. Maybe you could find enough driving force to light the fire. After reading your column every month for as long as I have, I can tell that when you get a passion for something, you don't stop until you have accomplished your goal.
Think of all the young ones who are missing out on the wonderful world of beekeeping and the things it brings to the table! That special beekeeping knowledge lasts a lifetime and think of all the good it does for Nature.
Because of your current position, you Reach more people than any one of us. If you could get passionate about this fault in our society, take the reins, and generate the momentum, I and probably thousands of others would help in any way that presents itself.
If we can't encourage our young people to participate in something that is good and wholesome, then what is left? Thanks for your help.
Dennis
Bryan, Texas
JERRY FOLLOWS UP I took some time to track down the leadership of the Boy Scouts to ask your question "How can the Beekeeping Merit Badge be re-instated?" Man, that wasn't easy! Unfortunately, they are not a very transparent organization at the top-perhaps because they do not want hard questions? Because this exercise was so difficult I thought, "Let's go to the top and see what happens?" Chief Scout Executive / CEO Robert Mazzuca, Boy Scouts of America, 1325 West Walnut Hill Lane, P.O. Box 152079, Irving Texas 75015, email Robert.Mazzuca@ scouting.org, 972-580-2000.
Comment: Classroom readers, you are a strong, smart and vocal group. Ask yourself if you want to do this. Can we make a difference?
Let's see. Take a minute to contact Mr. Mazzuca in one or all of the ways above and see if he responds or ducks. Let me know.
The Classroom - March 2010
Organic and CCD-Comment
I want to thank you for what you said in the Jan. 2010 edition of the ABJ about organic and CCD. On both subjects you said just what I have believed for a long time. We have a small pumpkin farm with about 10 beehives. We will never go through the organic certification process, although we do not use pesticides or herbicides. Our soil amendments are provided by the cover crops, the cattle, donated horse manure we compost and the tons of duck manure in rice hulls we buy. We just tell people the pumpkins and other crops are raised naturally to protect our bees. In other words, we are a bee-friendly farm. People understand that! I also tell them just what you said about the causes of CCD. I remember that talk I heard at Apimondia in Australia where the speaker said it was "death by a thousand cuts". I quote that statement when people ask about it. Keep up the good work educating beekeepers! I learn a lot from your monthly column!
Ettamarie Peterson
Q Cleaning and RewaxingPlastic Foundation
I have a question about cleaning used plastic foundation. I have heard that scraping the old comb off and then power washing it works. Now, specifically, do you try and remove ALL of the wax or do you just scrape it and let the bees clean it up and leave a little "old wax" for them to work?
Next question, I know that bees work better on wax-coated foundation. So, if you suggest removing ALL old wax, how would you go about re-waxing the plastic? Would you melt down your own cappings, dip them in some way and hope the bottom of the cells don't hold too much wax? I'm racking my brain here!
Thanks,
Nick
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I wouldn't worry about getting 100% of the wax off. Shoot for 85-90%. Yes, bees do better at drawing out comb if they have some in place and don't have to make it all. In some type of double boiler arrangement (beeswax is highly flammable) melt some beeswax and use an old small paint brush and paint the beeswax on. You don't have to be neat. The bees will mold, shape, massage the wax into the proper areas and construct new cells. You are helping your colony by removing old potentially disease-holding brood comb and the negative chemical residues they contain. This will help honey-bee health as much as anything.
Q Which Type of Honey Bee to Use?
I have a small bee yard in mid-Michigan (8 to 12 swarms). I have always kept Italian bees with good success, but have become curious about the Carniolan strain. They seem to be perfect for our climatic conditions in Michigan. I am contemplating trying a couple of swarms this season. However, I am not sure if I should go with Russian honey bees. I have read that the Russians can be "touchy" and require regular requeening to retain their mite resistance and productivity. However, price and availability seem to be on their side. I am just looking for some suggestions.
Thanks,
Tom
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Tom, I think that purchasing "hygienic" stock from reputable queen producers is the long-term solution to lots of our problems. Hygienic Russians are better than they were a few years ago. There is a list of approved Russian producers on the web. There are legitimate, reputable breeders of hygienic stock and then there are the mass marketers selling junk.
Q Can You Overfeed Honey Bees?
I have a question that has bothered me for some time. Can you overfeed bees? By this I mean, the bees take all the HFCS or sucrose fed to them and store it in cells, which may not be consumed by springtime. This leftover food could be mixed and extracted with honey the following season. We talk so much about contaminated honey. Could it be possible that we ourselves are doing this without being aware of the consequences? Depending on weather conditions and strength of the hive, the bees will consume various amounts of food over the winter. This amount is hard to predict and it's better to be on the plus side than to starve the bees. It still makes sense to over-winter bees with pure honey rather than feed them with other sugars. I know that this is not always possible. Thanks for your help.
Fred
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Fred, I cannot argue with any of what you have said.
Q Trouble with the Neighbors
I am writing to you because of a problem that I have. It is not with the bees that I have, it is with the neighbors that I have. I have six or seven hives at my house and six at another location. The neighbors have several teenagers who think they can do anything they want to do in the neighborhood. I have had words with them about the bees in my yard because they trespass using my yard to go to their buddy's house. I have checked with the township where I live and can legally have them, so I don't have any problem with the law. It seems every time they see a honey bee or any other flying insect, they call the police to complain.
This summer we had words about the bees because I caught them killing a swarm of bees that was in their yard. About 5 days later, when I checked on my hives, I noticed a foul smell. When I opened the hives, I found that two of the bee hives were dead. I highly suspect that they had been bug-bombed with insect killer because I recognized the odor in the hive. I have also had several of my hives kicked over. Since there was snow on the ground at the time, it told me the story of what happened because the footprints in the snow lead straight to the neighbor's house.
Just this week the boys were outside and made a comment to me that they knew what happened to my hives and if I did not get rid of the rest them, they would do it for me. Their statements indicate to me that they killed the hives since I did not say anything to anyone else.
What I would like is to get some information as whom to call if and when they try to kill another swarm or hive? I think that if the issue is turned over to the federal government because they were killing this vital insect and let them deal with the boys, then they might get the idea to leave them alone. I do not know whom to contact and was wondering if you knew who to talk to?
Sincerely,
Ken Berg
Flint, MI
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Ken, if I were you, I would have called the police, sheriff or whomever is supposed to enforce Michigan Law. It sounds like this relationship with your neighbors is out of control and you are losing. If you have checked local law and you can keep honey bees in your community legally, you are in the right. Of course, you must also be sure that you are abiding by any regulations about how many hives you have on your land or how close they are to your neighbor's house.
You have evidence with footprints in the snow. Did you take photos? They admitted they destroyed your colonies to your face because they apparently know that you won't do anything.
You should contact Mike Hansen, who is the Michigan Dept. of Agriculture Apiculture Chief and report a honey-bee kill. They can come out, take samples, and analyze dead bees, comb, etc. You might consider putting up a "motion sensing" camera such as those hunters use to monitor deer movement. Turning the other cheek, giving your enemy your coat and going the extra mile certainly is Biblical, but you must hold those who harm you to a level of Biblical accountability and responsibility or you will actually stunt their growth.
It's too bad this situation could not have been nipped in the bud with amicable give and take between you and your neighbor (perhaps even a few jars of good-will honey). However, it may have gone beyond this stage of reason by now.
Q Raising Queens
Mr. Hayes, I really enjoy your classroom column in the ABJ. This spring is my third year in beekeeping, so I still have lots of questions. I got lucky last fall and found a hive, about a half-mile from my house that was abandoned three years ago, according to the property owner. The hive contains a strong colony of bees. This coming spring, I'd like to make a split out of this hive and install a sister queen from this survivor hive.
Here's where I get lost. I've read several of the most recommended books on queen rearing, also every article I can find. I've also read and am familiar with several of the methods commonly prescribed for rearing queens. I have no desire to learn or perform the grafting method. Most every method seems to me to be geared towards the commercial production of queens, or at least towards raising large numbers of queens. I only need one. Can you suggest an easy method of raising my own queen from this survivor stock? I have two other hives of bees at my home location, plus an empty nuc box. That's the extent of my equipment right now, though I'm not opposed to adding more if necessary.
I helped my nephew do what he called a "dirty split" last year, where we just put a frame of eggs, plus frames of food and bees in a nuc and let them produce their own queen. This seemed to work (if they survive this winter, I'll call it a success), but I've read several times that you shouldn't do this as it results in inferior queens. No explanation why. Thanks for any help you can give.
Gary Blackford
Hebron, Ohio
A
Gary, I lived in Wooster years ago where I went to the Ohio State University Agricultural Technical Institute specializing in beekeeping. I like Ohio. The queens with the most ovarioles (egg-producing organs) are raised from the youngest larvae, hours old, that are being fed copious amounts of royal jelly, the food that turns a female worker larva into a queen. Commercial queen breeders manipulate situations in order to facilitate these conditions.
If you want to raise one queen or several, then I would simply identify frames with eggs in spring, distribute them equally in two hive bodies, along with a few frames of honey and pollen. Then, take one of the hive bodies and place it next to the other box on a bottom board, etc., making a new hive. In a couple of days, go in and see which one has queen cells. There you go. Not pretty, but effective!
Q Treating with Antibiotics
I enjoyed your presentations at the Louisiana Beekeepers Convention earlier this month. I am a new beekeeper who is blessed with a beekeeping club close to me. However, there exists a large experience and age gap within our club. We are told to give antibiotics twice and year, Fumidil in the fall, etc.
I've been in the medical field for 16 years. I have seen that the abuse of antibiotics in people contribute to some of the worst resistant bacteria imaginable. I believe this was through indiscretion and ignorance. I believe this could happen with honey bees also. The reason I'm writing you is because your presentation Saturday at the convention was the first time someone had suggested that bees should only be treated when symptomatic.
I have no real resource within my club and want your input or perhaps some study or publication that could clarify this "medication" dilemma for me. Any help you can spare would be great. Also, thank you for your presence here at our conference. I appreciated your work.
Brent Ingvardsen
Stonewall, Louisiana
A
Good Morning Brent. Thank you for the compliment. I am glad that you are a new beekeeper and it is good that you have the expertise of members of a beekeeping club close to you. Like many organisms, honey bees can take a lot of stress and abuse that does not kill them, similar to humans and our livestock that are exposed to lots of chemicals that are purposely ingested, applied or inhaled. As you know in the medical field, antibiotics are prescribed freely and taken freely and many times incorrectly which has led to MRSA and other really scary stuff. This will only get worse as time passes and practices do not change dramatically from either the medical practitioner side or the patient side.
Production livestock are fed a diet that routinely contains antibiotics to lower infection levels in these animals that are crowded together in stressful and unhealthy conditions. None of this will change soon since food production for the lowest cost per unit output is the goal. E. coli and other organisms' resistance to antibiotics have been documented. As long as the ultimate product does not immediately kill the consumer or make him/her sick, it is considered to be all right.
Honey bees are just as tough as a cow or a chicken. However, the real question should be: Are they healthy and thriving or are they just OK? We have antibiotic resistance in bacterial diseases in honey bees. The most significant and prominent is Paenibacillus larvae, the causative organism of American Foulbrood (AFB). A couple of reasons for this are: 1) Feeding antibiotics inappropriately and 2) applying them inappropriately. To highlight, (1) why feed antibiotics when there is not a disease? My example at the meeting was when I asked, "Is anyone taking antibiotics now because they are afraid of getting strep throat in the future." No hands went up from the audience. And in regards to: 2) Not following label directions as a factor in antibiotic resistance, I believe antibiotics are designed to kill all sensitive organisms, both good and bad, if applied properly in multiple doses over X period of time.
This is similar to when your doctor prescribes antibiotics for you to take over a 10- to 14-day period so all the bad organisms are killed. If you don't follow the instructions, then you are promoting bacterial resistance because some of the bad organisms are genetically hardier and they stay alive after the first or second exposure to the antibiotic. If you quit taking the antibiotic after a few days because you are feeling better, you have then become an evolutionary selective agent who has selected for organisms that are somewhat immune to a partial treatment. When this happens over a large population, over and over again, then at some point in time you have selected for organisms that are entirely resistant to this antibiotic and the disease cannot be controlled easily, i.e. MRSA or flesh-eating bacteria found in all hospitals now.
The same thing happens with honey-bee diseases such as AFB. The beekeeper may not complete treatments using labeled products or he may use antibiotics in "food patties" for disease prevention when there is no active disease, thereby selecting for those organisms that have some natural resistance. These resistant bacteria breed and then you develop an organism over time that requires a different stronger antibiotic. In the beekeeping industry we have gone from Terramycin to now Tylosin and already there is some noted AFB resistance to Tylosin because of the reasons cited above.
Now let's take a quick look at what honey bees eat for protein, lipids, vitamins and minerals. It is not pollen. It is beebread, which is a fermented product that is created by honey bees adding bacteria, yeasts etc., to pollen to break apart the pollen grains sealed in silica (glass) to release and pre-digest this vital nutrition enclosed. If you have an agricultural background, stored bee pollen is kind of like pollen silage. Or, for you or I, it might be compared to a fermented food like yogurt, kefir, sauerkraut, sour cream, etc. Adding antibiotics kills both good and bad bacteria in a honey-bee diet. Antibiotics even kill the good bacteria that honey bees need to make beebread in order to obtain full nutrition. Thus, unknowingly, the beekeeper may have further stressed and compromised the health of the colony.
Antibiotics are extremely valuable tools for human and animal health. However, any tool is not the right tool. A hammer is not a screwdriver. A crescent wrench is not socket wrench. We have been abusing antibiotics and are now suffering the consequences personally and in our animals. We are relying on our advancements in technology to step up and save us. I hope that they can continue to do so. Sorry to drone on so long.
Q Colonies in the Winter
Thank you once again for taking the time out of your busy schedule to drive all that way to speak to our group. Everyone enjoyed it and I am hoping that we will have more of our members getting registered and involved in the Best Management Practices (BMPs) about which you spoke.
And, since I have your reading eye, instead of your listening ear, I have a question. What are eight-frame brood boxes supposed to look like at this time of the year in this area? I checked mine today and there were only about two or three frames that had any eggs, larvae, and capped brood on them. There was plenty of honey and pollen stores. The frames that do have the eggs and such on them are not very consistent either. I did see fresh eggs, still standing up, just not a lot. When I had bees before, I didn't look into them at this time of year. I am trying to be a good bee mommy, but I just don't know what I am supposed to be seeing at this time of year. Thanks for your help,
Debbie Bohannon
Florida
A
I enjoyed being able to address your group. They will all be good beekeepers with all the support and mentors available. I am all eyes. The European honey bees we have are varieties with a biology/physiology that is attuned to always preparing for winter-a season that has harsh temperatures and is food resource barren. In temperate climates, honey bee colonies and their reproductive queens respond to the shortening day length, downward temperature changes and lack of nectar and pollen availability by slowing down and eventually stopping brood rearing to save food resources in this energy-dependent activity.
In Florida, it is a bit confusing for European temperately evolved honey bees since the days are shortening and the temperature is dropping (but not by a lot). However, a few flowers are still blooming. If your colonies have brood in all stages, lots of stored food and parasites, pests and diseases are at nonexistent or controllable levels at this time of the year in Florida, I would say you are in good shape.
Q Medications and Ventilation Questions
First, I really enjoy your column, "The Classroom". There are always great questions asked by fellow beekeepers who have run into problems and need your help with fixing them. This might be a problem someone else is having also or may just help them to prevent a future problem with their bees. Great job!
Jerry, here is my first question. When hives are medicated in the fall and early spring with medicated syrup, there is a time limit on when it must be removed before a honey flow and supers can be put on. Later, there comes a time to put the queen excluders on and then supers, whether above a single deep, double deep, one and half, or three mediums as the brood boxes. These colonies are still expanding the brood nest and making room for more brood. Do they move the medicated nectar or honey from the brood area up into the supers as they are making room?
My second question, if you have time to answer, is: What is the best cover to use on your hives? Beekeepers talk about hives needing ventilation and to keep the hives cooler in the summer, so the bees don't have to work as hard to cool the hive. The telescoping cover and inner cover create a dead air space, plus you can put a hole in the rim of the inner cover to create a upper entrance and to let the hive vent out some of the moisture. But in the South, it seems that most of the hives I had seen pictures of in the magazines use migratory covers. It seems to me that being in the South where they would get a lot more humid temps, the colonies wouldn't cool the hives much with that solid migratory cover on them.
There seems to be so many different opinions on what is best, but as beginners in this area of beekeeping, which one do you choose! I wish there was a standard to go by, depending on the area in which you live. Which is the best brood box set up, cover, entrance, reduced entrance, vented top, etc.? Can you help me out with some answers? Thanks Jerry. Keep up the great job!
Robert Warnick, Jr.
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Robert, Thank you for the "Classroom" compliment. I learn things all the time from the excellent questions that are central to an understanding of beekeeping. I'll try to answer your questions.
I guess my first question is why are you medicating in fall and spring? Do you have a disease? If you have a disease such as American foulbrood or European foulbrood, antibiotics can be a valuable tool. If there is no disease to treat, then why treat?
Always follow label directions for antibiotics labeled for honey bees. The directions will indicate how far in advance of the nectar flow the antibiotics should be withdrawn in order to prevent contamination of stored honey.
Honey bees are successful insects because they have the genetics which require diversity. With certain exceptions, Apis mellifera can live in most locations-at high altitudes, at low altitudes, in deserts, in jungles, in cities, in the suburbs, in hollow trees, rock cavities or the attic of your house. They survive because of genetic diversity contributed by multiple matings from multiple drones. Instead of putting their survival into the genetics of mating with one drone, honey bees spread the risk around by mating with many drones. If one drone's sperm carries weak genetics for over wintering, then only those workers produced by that sperm are at risk, not the whole colony. Honey bees go for the averages not a homerun every time at bat. That is why there are only generalities for hive dimensions, covers, bottoms, etc. Honey bees don't care. They adapt because they can.
Use whatever kind of cover you want; it really doesn't matter. Upper ventilation in the hive is something to consider. Honey bees, in the process of eating and processing stored honey, release excess water in the form of water vapor/humidity as respiration takes place. Now, think of putting your warm, moist breathe on a cold windowpane in winter in your house in Farmersville, Ohio. Water droplets form from the condensation of the water vapor in your warm breath. The same thing happens in a beehive in winter. Water condensation can freeze on the top of the hive (inside). It can build up and freeze layer upon layer over weeks of subfreezing temperatures. It can freeze inside the hive because the cluster does not heat the entire hive like your central heating in your home.
The cluster, for efficiency reasons, just heats itself so not a lot of extra heat is produced to keep the condensation from freezing inside the hive. When there is a break in the outside weather, the hive warms up. The frozen condensation melts and the bees have a cold rain on them that compromises their ability to stay warm. Cracking the top to let water vapor out before it condenses and freezes is a reasonable management practice. Too much insulation applied by the beekeeper keeps too much water vapor inside the hive, which like your house, encourages mold and fungus to grow. This is not a healthy situation. Cold does not kill honey bees. In healthy honey bees with adequate winter stores, the honey-bee cluster easily deals with the temperature extremes.
The Classroom - January 2010
Excerpt
Q
IS IT VSH or VHS or DVD?
Dear Mr. Hayes,
Please give us some detailed information about the Minnesota Hygienic stock and the VSH (Varroa-selective Hygienic) stock developed at the USDA lab.
Thanks,
Marcel LeBlanc
Houston, TX
A
The difference is VSH (Varroa Sensitive Hygiene) is a genetic trait of the honey bee that allows it to recognize capped cells with mite-infested pupae. The bees in a communal way get together and cut through the cap, drag out the infested pupa and the mites and dump them outside as trash.
Minnesota Hygienic Bees have the genetic trait that is one of a high degree of hygienic behavior that targets diseases like American foulbrood and chalkbrood. So, VSH targets "varroa mites" and Minnesota Hygienic target "diseases". Theoretically, one could have both traits simultaneously from 1% to 100% and everything in between. Honey bees have survived for millions of years by having a wide selection of genes for different situations and scenarios. Having a hyper-trait may adversely affect other traits, so everything is a trade off.
Marcel answers:
Jerry, thanks for the reply, but that is not what I have heard. You haven't helped me!
Classroom Readers: I do not know everything, but I generally do know who knows, so I handed this one off to Dr. Jeff Harris at the USDA/ARS Bee Breeding Lab in Baton Rouge to see if he could help me out.
Thanks Jeff
Reply from Jeff Harris
Hello Jerry, I can understand the reader's problem with accepting that there are differences because we are not really sure ourselves as to how or why these two types of honey bees are different. So, I'll try to say what we know as briefly as possible:
It seems likely that hygienic removal of varroa-infested pupae (or Varroa-Sensitive Hygiene) is really the same behavior or a subset of general hygienic behavior that is found in the Minnesota Hygienics. The difference is in selective breeding methods that were used to obtain the two types of bees. Marla Spivak selected for improved performance in removal of freeze-killed brood. The VSH team selected initially for bees that reduced the reproductive abilities of mites. It was only later that we discovered that this disruption of mite reproduction was caused by VSH activity.
As with MN Hygienics, bees with high levels of the VSH trait are also very hygienic towards freeze-killed brood, and our experience suggests that they are also good at controlling chalkbrood, American foulbrood, small hive beetles and wax moths (we just have not published these kinds of data). So, what are the differences between MN Hygienics and VSH bees? The biggest difference is that the VSH bees remove many more mite-infested pupae per unit time. They can uncap and identify 100s of mite-infested pupae in just a few hours. The MN hygienic bees find varroa-infested pupae at a much lower rate. In pure VSH colonies, varroa mite populations decline. In pure MN Hygienics, mite populations continue to grow, but at a rate slower that is significantly slower than in non-hygienic controls. So, it is quite possible that both bees are utilizing the same mechanisms to find mite-infested pupae (in fact, it seems likely), the difference may only be in degree. However, there is also evidence that the genetics controlling general hygiene is different than the genetics controlling VSH behavior. I'll just leave it at that for now. I hope this helps.
Sincerely,
Dr. Jeff Harris
USDA/ARS Bee Breeding Lab
Baton Rouge, LA
Classroom - December 2009
by Jerry Hayes
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MERRY CHRISTMAS!
Fact: Everyone in the world shares the same mtDNA. There is nuclear DNA or the genetic code, the blueprint for that individual cell and you. Cells have separate structures in them that make energy for the cell; they are called mitochondria. Mitochondria have their own DNA separate from cellular DNA. This DNA in the mitochondria comes from and is passed down generation to generation from the Mother. Guess what, whether you are big, little, black, brown, yellow, white, beige, big nose, thin lips, Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Eskimo, Mongol, French, Cherokee or whatever, science has proven what the major religions teach that we all came from the same mother. So, if we are really all brothers and sisters and therefore family, why are we so mean to each other? Let's make this season meaningful and not mean. There is a reason for the Season!
WORD OF THE DAY!
The word for today is GUTTATION (gu-ta-shun). This was a new word for me too. Let me tell you about the guttation process. First let me tell you what it isn't. As always, for some of you the caveat is that this might not seem as interesting now as it may at the end. Hang in there deep thinkers!
Plants have to have water for a variety of reasons and water has to be balanced within certain limits so the plant doesn't wilt or the cells explode from lots of water. Either extreme does not help photosynthesis and growth. During the day, when the sun is shining, plants regulate water concentration through a process called transpiration. Plants have structures on their leaves (mostly) called stoma or stomata that are valves that open in the day for CO2/O2 exchange. This CO2/O2 exchange carries along water vapor, just like when we breathe in and out. Think of your breath on a cold day. The roots take up the water and it is transported with nutrients up through the plant and through the leaves with this transpiration process and exits the plant.
Remember, transpiration is a daytime process. What happens at night? Plants don't sleep. Roots don't stop taking up water and nutrients. Plants have a process for balancing water needs in this situation too. It is called, you guessed it, guttation. At night water is still coming in (roots suck it up) and it can't get out through stomata because the daytime transpiration process is over and they are closed. Many plants have other special organs called Hydathodes that are located at the tips of some seedlings like corn or on the margins of the leaf like strawberries. (See photos)
These hydathodes allow liquid to exude. When evaporation is limited by high humidity such as at night when transpiration does not occur, it collects on the leaf tips or margins. Unlike transpiration, where water leaves as a vapor (like your breath), in guttation the liquid is exuded (pushed out) from the plant and can collect as droplets on the plant, sometimes confused with early morning dew.
So, why is this important to beekeepers? Well, one of the proven concerns of beekeepers and researchers is the data that shows some pesticides, fungicides and herbicides can be transported through a plant systemically and appear in the nectar of a flower. These amounts are relatively low, in sublethal doses because it has been filtered through nectaries. Guttation is a straight shot process from roots and out. Because it is a straight shot, the guttation water drops can contain concentrated chemicals. So, any chemical used as seed coatings or applied to the soil or in irrigation water like chemigation, can be transported out with the guttation water. It has been reported to me that a large chemical company in Germany has admitted that their neonicotinoid corn seed coatings can be transported through the small corn seedling hydathode and the water droplet can contain a lethal dose of the pesticide to adult worker honey bees that drink this toxic water droplet.
I get many calls from beekeepers who say their bees have done poorly in or around watermelons, squash, pumpkins, strawberries, corn and flowers in the understory of apples, cherries, citrus, etc. Data shows that pollen and nectar from these plants' flowers can contain pesticides, but in low amounts. Now we know about guttation and all of the short list of plants above freely practice guttation. If bees collect this water directly to drink, share with their sisters, or use it to cool the nest or for any other uses, it can be toxic.
Take a look at the You Tube video from an Italian researcher found at: www.youtube.
com/watch?v=e8Nsn4KvjM
Q Sanitized For Your Safety
Jerry, what is the practice of sanitization when the backyard sideliner and the commercial beekeeper find hives with CCD?
John McQuown
A
What is CCD? If I can answer my own question, the "symptoms" are a dramatic loss of worker population, the queen is left, and there are no dead bees in or about the colony or apiary, lots of brood and resources are still in the colony recently abandoned. You have probably read all of the possible causes of CCD-varroa, viruses, bacteria, Nosema ceranae, fungi, mold, pesticides, nutrition, queens, sperm, eggs, genetics, development temperature and many other things, along with all of the gazillions of combinations and permutations of all of the variables.
Your choice of the word sanitize is better than sterilize for most beekeepers. Radiation facilities can neutralize most pathogens with the proper rate and exposure. Ozone (O3) seems to neutralize/change some pesticides. Organic acids-acetic, formic, oxalic will kill/disable some pathogens. Air drying/UV will kill some pathogens, etc. So, your question is an excellent one: What can a "normal" beekeeper do to not sterilize but simply wipe the surface clean and knock back the many bad things, negative inputs both intentional and accidental introductions from this environmental sampler, the honey bee?
I think the easiest and most logical choice is to replace comb every 2-3 years-comb rotation. Clean comb is the key. Being exposed to "stuff' 24/7/365, if eliminated, can reduce stress and premature colony failure.
Q Alcohol Isn't For The Bees Either
Hi Jerry, I would like to know if fermented sugar syrup affects bees? The reason for asking is that when I feed bees sugar syrup, after about three days, I notice that the sugar syrup starts to ferment. Does this have any negative effects on the bees? Thanks much.
Regards,
Patroy Foster
A
Patroy, does fermented sugar have an effect on you? Sugar fermented by yeast collects a by-product of the yeast, a waste, called alcohol. This alcohol (ethanol) is a neurotoxin. In people it poisons the brain and central nervous system causing people to lose their balance, equilibrium, speech is slurred, they have difficulty walking and goodness knows, driving. Thousands are killed each year from "drunk" drivers. At high concentrations the bees simply won't consume it. At small concentrations it acts as a toxin on honey bees as well and they become inefficient.
By the way, your syrup should not be fermenting that quickly. Most of the time the bees consume it in just a few days. You may be making your syrup too thin; try increasing the concentration of sugar you are using. You will have to heat your water to do this, so be sure to let the syrup cool before giving it to your bees as feed.
Classroom - November 2009
by Jerry Hayes
Q Sometimes Size Does Matter...
Hi Jerry, I would like to know why some naturally raised and fully mated queens are large, and some are small? Recently, one of my hives swarmed, and the new queen is larger than any I have seen in my three years of beekeeping. This queen is over an inch long and as big around as a pencil and is laying a good pattern. It makes me wish that the queens that I pay good money for could look like this one. Thank you for taking time to answer.
David J. Flaugher
A
David, all things being equal, raising queens naturally or with beekeeper intent is a variable process. As a review, all the workers in a colony are sexually undeveloped females. Sexual development or not is based on the diet fed these young female larvae. The optimum age of a worker larva is three days old or less to develop into a premium queen. The younger the larva is, when selected for being a queen, the more ovarioles or egg-producing organs the queen will have and the supporting body structures to allow optimum egg production. The diet fed by nurse bees is called royal jelly. It is produced in the same hypopharyngeal glands of the nurse bees to feed "worker larvae", but is much higher in protein. This diet is fed in large amounts and actually floats the larva out of its cell, out over the front of the cell, so that the colony builds a larger vertical cell that is characteristic of "queen cells".
Let's say that your colony knew it was going to reproduce asexually-swarm. As a result, they started preparing potential replacement queens by feeding young larvae "royal jelly". The planets were aligned and they selected the perfect age larva and there were lots and lots of young nurse bees to feed the larva more than enough royal jelly. As a result, you got a whopper, beautiful queen. This is hard to duplicate, but when it happens it is pretty cool. Enjoy.
Q No Recipe
What is the best mixture for thymol crystals to treat varroa mites?
W. Martin
A
The best mixture is found in two tested, approved and labeled products called Apiguard and Api Life Var. No other thymol preparation is approved for use on beehives in the United States. Garage chemistry is not a good long-term solution or plan.
Q Sweat Lickers
Morning Jerry, I was mowing the grass and worked up a pretty good sweat. I decided to take a breather and sit down in the backyard. Soon my bees were on me like honey, licking up the sweat. What is with this?
John McQuown
A
John, you may have noticed directly or heard about honey bees visiting swimming pools and causing a nuisance, visiting muddy ditch water or even livestock feed lots.
Honey bees are attracted to and need minerals in their diet. If their diet does not contain the small minute amounts that they need, they go and look for them. If you add salt to your food or pepper, then you know what I mean.
Your sweat has an odor profile, which is easily identified and honey bee investigators, if not threatened, will collect your sweat for its minerals and oils. How many people would have been afraid in this situation where honey bees landed on their arms to collect sweat? Obviously, most nonbeekeepers would have been threatened and repelled such advances, but as a beekeeper you were wise enough to not feel threatened and let Nature take its course. Pretty interesting.
Q Use Of Honey-B-Healthy
I feed my bees essential oils (Honey B Healthy) in sugar syrup at certain times of the year. I ran across an article that mentioned bees move honey from one place to another in the hive. I just assumed the bees put nectar (or syrup) in an open area of the hive and that is where it stayed while they process and cap it. Guess I assumed wrong!
The label on the Honey B Healthy clearly states the contents is NOT for human consumption, so the article on honey movement concerns me and raised this question:
Are the bees likely to move any honey made from the sugar syrup containing the essential oils from the brood boxes up to the honey super when placed on the hive?
Deborah Rankin J Bar D Ranch
A
I wouldn't feed anything while nectar is being brought in for honey conversion and you have surplus honey supers on your hives. Hopefully, anything you fed before will have been consumed mostly for early brood production. Uncapped honey can be moved if the bees are so inclined, so if nothing artificial is fed during nectar collection, you are better off.
More From Deborah
I live in a very rural area, mostly pine forests and pasture land. We have had severe droughts ever since I installed my first hive in 2005. Our nectar flows pretty much end around early-May; the next thing that blooms of any significance is goldenrod in the fall, and even it is sparse. Nectar flows here are not very strong any time of year.
I do not use any hard chemicals. I use screened bottom boards year round, grease patties with wintergreen during the winter, and when I feed in the early spring and in August, I give the bees at least one gallon of syrup with Honey B Healthy, sometimes two if the weather has placed a lot of stress on the bees.
What does it do? Well, it makes those girls feel good - and they love it. Honey B Healthy contains spearmint and lemongrass - analgesics and carminatives. They relieve headaches, indigestion and heartburn in humans; they must have some similar effect on the bees. I also have planted several different herbs in my garden - lavender, rosemary, thyme, etc. for forage for the bees.
I monitor mite loads with sugar shakes and if necessary I use Apiguard before summer's end to keep the Varroa within manageable levels for the bees. I don't have any commercial beekeeping operations near me, and the only farming operation of any size is many miles away, so no pollination hives are nearby. You could say I am blessed - or "in the ditch" depending on how you look at it. Love "The Classroom" - I have learned many great tips from it.
Take care,
Deborah
A
You are probably blessed-blessed to be in an isolated place with no commercial beekeepers or production agriculture. And, blessed to care about your stewardship with your bees. What you are doing is probably not going to cause any problem, so keep doing what works for you and bees. Also, keep monitoring varroa mite levels and using Apiguard after honey flows as necessary to control your mite levels.
Q Thunder and Lightning
Hi Jerry, I have recently read that Florida is the thunder and lightning capital of the USA. Over here, across the pond in the UK, it is a widely held belief that thunder and lightning make bees very bad tempered. Is this the case over there and, if so, how do you deal with it?
Best wishes,
Peter Smith
A
Peter, being in a sub-tropical/tropical part of the world, we have a fair amount of heat and humidity that increases during the day and results in afternoon thundershowers. This is a bit different than weather patterns that are associated with "frontal" systems. These "fronts", high or low fronts, have a change in pressure associated with them. This change in barometric pressure is what generally alerts and disturbs honey bees, possibly affecting their disposition.
The thunder and lightning found in the weather, usually after a low-pressure front moves through, happens before and after the frontal boundary has passed and is not really what causes the bees to become disquieted. Florida thunder and lightning are daily isolated events that pop up, then disappear and re-appear elsewhere. These don't have a major behavioral effect on our honey bees.
If you like heat and humidity, Florida and the whole Southeast US were the places to be this summer!
Peter Follows Up
Thanks for the prompt and very knowledgeable reply. I didn't know that you were a meteorologist as well! I have read all sorts of things about this: Some say or write that the increase in electrical fields, as well as the vibrations from some thunderclaps can cause the little devils to become agitated. The pressure theory you expound seems a little more reasonable. Thanks for your time. Peter
Q Where Did The Egg Come From?
Hi Jerry, I inspected my hive today as usual. The bees that I have are of the Russian variety, so I knew that I would have queen cups on some of the frames. This is my first year keeping bees and I know some of the things that need to be known. I had the state apiary inspector inspect last Tuesday and we were able to find the queen.
Today, while doing the inspection, I found a queen cup that had an egg in it. I know that in previous articles you have stated that most hives have a few laying workers, so I am not ruling this out completely. My question is: Do the house bees move eggs to and from these queen cups and if there is an egg in this cup, will it be removed by the house bees or if the egg is in the queen cup, is it set in stone that the bees want a new queen?
This is the only queen cell of the four that I found today that has an egg in it. Also, do queens actually lay an egg in a queen cup knowingly as a precursor to swarm? Thank you in advance for you help.
Daniel H. Burk
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Daniel, workers do not arbitrarily move around eggs. There are some "old beekeeper tales" that workers do this, but I am not at this time a believer. If laying workers did lay in a queen cup, their unfertilized egg and the drone larva resulting from it would be removed (eaten) by the nurse bees, as it is the wrong gender in a wrong location.
Queens lay eggs in queen cell cups to start the development of a new queen to replace the old one that leaves with the swarm or to replace herself because she is failing, sick, old or all of these. At times, the workers will also "rebuild" a worker cell containing an egg into an emergency queen cell. The best way to handle this is to check the queen cell in another few days. If the egg hatches into a larva and the workers start feeding it, then you are probably safe in assuming that a new queen is being raised for queen supersedure or swarming.
You are witnessing the variability, flexibility and capability of a colony of honey bees. Remember, most of the time, they are smarter than we are!
Q Herbicide, Garlon 3 A
Hi Jerry, my utility company sprays the herbicide Garlon 3A along the right-of-way, under the power lines to control unwanted vegetation. Unfortunately, our ditches are home to many bee friendly plants and provide lots of nectar. How concerned should I be with this chemical treatment?
Thanks,
Eddie Mac
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Eddie, I didn't know what Garlon 3A was, so I appreciate you asking. I learned something and that is always fun. The active ingredient is TRICLOPYR, which was registered in 1979. It is used to control unwanted woody and herbaceous weeds. There are two forms, triclopyr triethylamine salt (TEA) or, and this is interesting, triclopyr butoxyethyl ester or BEE. According to the label and toxicity from the EPA registration documents, this material is non-toxic to honey bees. It does funky things to rats, rabbits and rhesus monkeys, but not honey bees, according to research conducted thus far.
Q African Bee Traits
Hi Jerry, my husband and I are fairly new beekeepers and have truly enjoyed and learned a lot from your Classroom series - thank you! Now it is time for us to ask you a question. Just this morning, when checking this year's new hive, we removed 13 swarm cells from the bottoms of three different frames. This is the second time we have removed these cells - last time was 23 days ago when we removed eight. It is apparent from all of the larvae and capped brood that our existing queen is doing quite well and there are still empty frames, so they should not be inclined to swarm. Can you tell us why they might be building so many queen cells?
There were some queens still in the cells and two emerged after we harvested them and I did not see any indication of varroa mites. We look forward to hearing back from you.
Sincerely,
Cyndee and Tony Blenkush
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Swarming, asexual reproduction, is based on congestion in what is the brood area. Empty frames just mean a smaller brood area and easier congestion. These bees want desperately to follow their genetic predisposition to swarm. This behavior is genetically programmed in these bees. Where did you get them? In Africanized honey bee (AHB) areas, this is not unusual or queens purchased from Southwest AHB strongholds. It would be unusual to find varroa in a queen cell. Let me know.
Cyndee and Tony Respond
Thank you for the quick reply Jerry. We do appreciate it. Yes, because we live in Southern Colorado at an elevation of 8,400 ft, we purchased our queen (and colony) from a southwestern U.S. package bee and queen company. Last year's queen and colony came from there too, but we did not encounter this behavior with them. They are very gentle small bees and we are told that they are a Carniolan and Buckfast hybrid.
Would you recommend we move in an empty frame or two toward the middle of the brood area? We look forward to hearing back from you.
Thanks again,
Cyndee and Tony
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You may have some degree of Africanization from where you purchased your queens in the Southwest. The production queens there are open-mated and will probably pick up African drone genes from the surrounding feral population. You certainly could keep the brood nest open by continuously moving filled brood frames out and empty comb (not foundation) in. However, it may be easier in the long run to replace the queens with something more manageable from another source and get rid of these genetics. Caveat emptor (buyer beware).
Q Drones and Buckwheat
First, I want to thank you and the Journal for the lessons.
Question 1: Because mites favor the drone cells, would it be to my advantage if I destroyed some of the cells when I am in the hive anyway? I know I need a few drone cells, but how many because the queen has already mated?
Question 2: Buckwheat blooms in the morning and clover in the afternoon, but I like the clover better. What can I plant that the bees (for a July/August bloom time) will work in the mornings that will produce a light honey?
I am new at beekeeping and appreciate your answers. Also, what can I plant that will help me remember what I have read? (Joke) Thank you from northeast Oklahoma.
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Thank you for the Classroom compliment. Drones are a breeding reservoir for female varroa. As a varroa control, removing a few scattered drone brood cells while routinely checking your colonies probably won't help much, but it is a good varroa sampling tool. On the other hand, an organized and dedicated program of regular drone comb insertion and removal would help since it is a recognized varroa control method.
Are you or a neighbor actually growing buckwheat? If so, how many acres? If you are, I am impressed as hardly anyone grows buckwheat in the U.S. anymore. I would take advantage of the buckwheat since many people want the darker honeys for the health value. Since you already have acreages of clover, I cannot think of anything that you could plant in enough acres in northeastern Oklahoma for white honey production in July/August other than alfalfa that you could let go to bloom. Maybe someone else out there has a suggestion? Sunflowers and cotton come to mind, but their honeys are often in the light to medium amber color range.
In answer to your last question about what to plant to help you remember what you have read? How about some forget-me-nots!
Q Brood Cannibalism
My 9-year-old daughter was going through her hive today, and said, "There is a lot of dead brood." I was alarmed and checked it for her. I found that the queen was gone and the remaining workers were cannibalizing the pupae-three partial frames of them (probably over 1,000 half eaten pupae)! There were no eggs or larvae and no indication of any kind of brood disease. I observed one bee hatch out, but many more died of apparent neglect from the workers. Its like every nurse bee suddenly forgot her job and turned on the brood. Other colonies in the small apiary were putting up honey. I have never seen anything like it (I have been keeping bees for about nine years and have 60+ colonies).
The colony was split in June (it's winter here until late May) with six frames of healthy bees. On July 7th, I checked them and all seemed to be A-ok. I have had no instances of CCD, so far, and these colonies are well away from commercial crops. I promised my daughter I would consult you for advice.
Thanks for your input. I love the classroom in the Bee Journal.
Boyd Taylor
Alturas, CA
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Boyd, if the field force dies out in the field from pesticides or dwindles due to queenlessness, disease, mites, etc., then the nurse bees will automatically advance to the next role of forager to fill in the gap or loss. With no foragers returning with resources, pollen (protein) in particular, there is no food. If there are few nurse bees to produce liquid larval food, then brood cannot be fed and it dies. There is still a protein need, so the nurse bees start eating the brood and recycle protein already fed to them that is now in their sisters. Why only this particular colony is in this condition I have no idea.
Boyd Replies
Thanks Jerry, that makes sense. I was pretty focused on the pupae, but now that you mention it, I don't recall any honey, either. I will get them straightened out.
Boyd
Q Queens From South Africa
Jerry, we first corresponded in January of 2006 about some aggressive bees from Texas, but I will be surprised if you recall me from that - anyway, thanks for your
"Classroom" in the ABJ.
What do you think of Dr. David Fletcher's recommendation (September, 2009 ABJ) that we bring in queens from South Africa, which have docile characteristics? I have had contact with Africanized honey bees (AHB) since 2000 and can attest to their vigor! In the past year I have requeened at least 11 AHB swarms. AHB swarms do work for raising queen cells. I make sure these units are small and isolated. If a colony does not accept the new queen, it gets "depopulated" by soapy water or a shop vacuum.
My present project is to get mite-resistant gentle productive bees. I have been doing instrumental insemination of queens under the guidance of Sue Cobey at UC-Davis. I am working with about 50 colonies that have not been treated for mites and are still looking healthy.
Bill Weinerth
Ventura, CA
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Hello Bill, I just read the article by Dr. Fletcher in the September American Bee Journal. It seemed to cover the accurate and anecdotal history of African honey bees (AHB) in Africa and what we are learning about the population we have in the U.S. It was an interesting article. I would challenge his reports and his opinion on some points, but it really doesn't matter because what we have now is what we have and we can‘t go back.
Sure we could scratch our heads about Dr. Kerr's less-than-perfect scientific decision more than 50 years ago in Brazil, but to be perfectly selfish, I have to deal with the results of this decision for the public and beekeepers every day and it is a scary pain in the neck!
Dr. Fletcher is recommending finding manageable African bees (scutellata), importing them to the U.S. to competent "bee scientists" as he says. So my question is: "And then what?" The USDA has had an ongoing project in trying to distribute the hygienic "Russian" honey bee genetics for over a decade now. Getting the beekeepers in the U.S. to accept and vigorously purchase these has not met with universal success. Sue Cobey, Marla Spivak, Joe Latshaw and a host of other very smart people have also developed lines of genetically improved honey bees. Have all 2.4 million U.S. colonies been requeened with these easily available better queens? No. Will they? Probably not.
The AHB we have in the U. S. is under selection pressure from the environment and from beekeepers who cannot tolerate defensive/aggressive honey bees in the least, especially in close proximity to people, pets and livestock. Zoning restrictions are already causing beekeepers problems, insurance companies are dropping beekeepers who are not participating in a Best Management Program (BMP) such as in Florida and lawyers are getting paid for what lawyers do. This is current reality.
In a perfect world, Dr. Fletcher would be right in suggesting that a breeding program is needed to modify the behavior of AHB. In our imperfect world, he is still right, but the mechanics of this happening are slim to none. Reality will win over the best intentions every time.
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Q You Need To Do It Once
Hi, I have a home that is going to be demolished, and there is a beehive in the overhang at the entrance to the house. I have a small hive of my own and I want to save and take the bees from the hive in the house. I've tried to use a funnel made of screen for two days and I just can't seem to get it completely sealed up. Do you know of any other methods? I've heard of some queen bee essence? If possible, please help. Is there some type of vacuum that can be used? Thanks much for any and all help.
Hank
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Hank, first, if you are in an Africanized honey bee (AHB) area of the country, one can assume that the queen to this colony will be mixed mated with AHB and European honey bee (EHB) genetically based drones. They may be calm now, but the potential is for them to be overly defensive in the future. Be careful. If the house is going to be demolished anyway, why don't you just disassemble the part of the house where the colony is and get the whole thing with the queen as well? It takes weeks to trap out a colony using the "cone" method and then the queen is still left behind with the entire comb, etc. Vacuums, pheromones, combs with brood, combs without brood, etc., can all be used, but the only way you get the whole thing is to peel back the part of the house where they are, cut out the comb and tie it into empty frames, no comb or foundation, and get all the resources. Every beekeeper needs to do this once. You will create all sorts of your own personal beekeeper war stories and be able to keep pace with all the other beekeeper sagas at the bee meetings. I think it is an opportunity:)
Q Florida Honey Standard
I find much of Ms.Gentry's comments in the July 2009 Classroom to be rather disingenuous at best. s and serious illnesses from "tainted milk, spinach, peanut butter, pistachios and jalapeno peppers, to name a few." I don't remember the pistachio issue, but I think that the milk, spinach and jalapeno issues involved raw foodstuffs in or on which harmful bacteria were present. From everything I have read, honey does not allow microorganisms to grow. Osmotic pressure and the hydrogen peroxide in honey make it generally a reasonably good antibacterial material. To bring those instances into the picture is just plain wrong.
The real problem most hobbyists and sideliners have with the rules is with the very high cost of meeting the rules for a "processing facility"...a separate building, three-basin sink, etc. Especially onerous are the lengths to which the regulators carry the rule. I was told, when I called the Department that the mere act of placing a Ross Round into the plastic container was "processing" and had to be done in an approved and inspected facility.
When my Rounds are ready, I think I will show up at the grower's market with the super(s) and a bag of containers and ask the customers to place the comb in the container themselves and explain the ridiculous stance of the regulators.
Boiled peanuts, and cane syrup are exempt from the rules and have been for some time. Where are the s and illnesses associated with those food items? I know that everything about this is political. And, I really appreciate all the work Ms. Gentry did on getting the Honey Standard into place. Thanks for that. But please be more reasonable when it comes to the one size fits all processing rules. At least don't pick off-point inflammatory examples when attempting to support your new cause.
Richard Winters
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Mr. Winters, I appreciate your comments on the "Honey Standard" as enacted in Florida. For specific questions about how this was enacted, I would certainly contact the Florida State Beekeepers Association, the Florida Honey Bee Technical Council, Ms Nancy Gentry, who was given the task to move this protective measure for beekeepers forward, and all of the rank and file of these organizations that had full input into this landmark legislation.
An opinion is like a nose, everyone has one. Here is mine on the Honey Standard. This is the first time in the United States/North America that any state or federal government has stepped up to protect beekeepers/honey producers from unfair mixing, blending and sale of cheap inferior honey products and giving the industry the strength and professionalism to elevate the product and the producers. This is being accomplished while giving the consumer confidence in Florida Honey and separating it from the "junk" that has been blended, modified, enhanced, and is sold to the consumer as "Pure Honey".
The Commissioner, Charles Bronson, is to be applauded for taking this issue forward in support of the Florida Beekeeping Industry. Remember that no one had ever done this before. The Federal Government chose not to do it. Mr. Bronson was not discouraged or dismayed as he drove forward to the benefit of all of Florida. And, there are 17 other states that have been waiting for Florida to take the lead on this and follow our example. This is a National event. It is a win/win for everyone. Having a pure product is much better than having a product that is of poor quality, potentially tainted and at the worst causing sickness. There are already warnings about feeding honey to infants. We do not want warnings on honey as on some fish and seafood products that those who have compromised immune systems or are pregnant should not eat them.
We have the best product in the world and we need to stand tall and protect it so that it continues to be the best product in the world. Florida Food Safety will be charged to monitor and enforce this new "rule". Your obligation and for all Florida Beekeepers is to report honey that isn't really honey to Food Safety. It is no different than someone selling "cat" and calling it chicken. It will make us stronger in our own eyes and in the eyes of all consumers, which at the end of the day is what matters.
Q Varroa? What Does It Mean?
Jerry, some time ago I read about monitoring the debris from the bottom of beehives via a removable tray. I have now made and use some bottom board trays in my hives, inserted from the back, to frequently and easily review the Varroa mite drop. The mites have now shown up here these past few years in Minnesota along the Lake Superior north shore where we have a few isolated hobby beekeepers. Last year, and again this year, I've noted flightless bees crawling in the grass in front of the hives, (occasionally one with deformed wings) perhaps about a dozen daily from three hives, but apparently mostly from one. (These are handy for bee venom therapy for my minor arthritis.)
The Varroa load seems minor, but I'm not sure I fully understand what I'm seeing on my trays. On any given day, often the result of 2-3 days, and mostly only with that one hive, I see about a dozen mites per tray, never more than 2-3 of them alive. The and live ones are about half and half brown and light beige color. Looking with magnification, I see that the are generally dried up. One could suspect that the live mites have ally fallen from the bees. But what about the majority which are ? Might this be normal mortality or would it be the result of grooming, or would grooming of live mites not show up at all due to their being carried away?
I have dusted with powder sugar, but see very few mites from that, a dozen at most after 30 min. from a two-box hive. Is my and alive ratio understandable? What should I be finding?
Rev. Eugene Lehrke
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Varroa mites pass on (vector) a variety of viruses, some of which cause deformed wings in developing honey bees. The mite fall you are seeing over a 2-3 day period is good. You might want to coat your "tray" with petroleum jelly or spray cooking oil. This sticky coating may reveal more mites. Mites that fall on a non-sticky tray can simply crawl back up into the colony. Some of the mites you are seeing have been groomed off, died naturally or fallen naturally. Some have emerged with the damaged bee and are still maturing, so are different shades of brown. Try dusting each brood box with a cup of powdered sugar separately and see if there is a difference. Sounds like your mite level is growing. You need to monitor that mite increase and treat once you reach the economic threshold (that point at which mite numbers start to damage your honey production and hive health).
